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Idea #2393: don't ask for default keyring password if system is set to autologin

Written by brownpr0 the 2 Mar 08 at 05:53. Category: Internet & Networking. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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my laptop never leaves my house. therefore, when i install ubuntu, right away i set it up for autologin. however, once i setup my wireless passwords/keys, then ubuntu asks me for my default keyring password on every reboot. i don't want to be asked on every reboot to put the same password in every time. let me decide if i want my system to be that secure or not. i've searched the forums and no one has a good solution to stop ubuntu from asking me for a *default keyring* password on every reboot
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Written by brownpr0 the 2 Mar 08 at 05:53.
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trippinnik wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 07:59
Actually Debian has something like this. I can set it to save the keyring's password or admin passwords and not ask for them again. KDE also has an option of having Wallet Mg have a blank password. If I've already typed in my password to login, or set it not to ask, why should I have to type in my keyring password for Pidgin, Evolution or Wireless?

arekkusu wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 19:26
I am not convinced and I think you're missing something here...

YES asking to unlock the keyring for a wireless key is a bad behavior.
And this planned to change on the version 0.7 of the Network Manager. (see the bug report I attached)

The real question is what do you use the keyring for. A wireless key is IMO not what it should be used for (if someone has access to your computer I guess someone stealing your wireless key is not the biggest problem)

NOW if you were to use the keyring for important information (login to your bank account, credit card number...) you might really want it to be closed by default.

brokencrystal wrote on the 6 Mar 08 at 10:02
How about an option? Let the user decide how he/she wishes to use their computer.

Ansible wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 18:54
Don't know if this is the same problem, but I was having the same thing happen - prompt for keyring whenever connecting to WEP. For me, it was because I changed my password and now the regular password was different from the keyring password. Therefore, I got prompted continually.

I forget what the fix was, but I found the answer on the forums. Some command that reset something or other.

So anyway, now I don't get any keyring prompts anymore.

DavidONE wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 14:46
How is this implemented?

I'm running 8.04 with auto-login and I'm prompted for keyring each login. My login password and keyring password are the same. :/

droetker wrote on the 28 Jul 08 at 07:43
look at
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/11569/
This problem IS NOT "done".

droetker wrote on the 28 Jul 08 at 07:46
And the attached Bug #34898 to this Idea is the wrong one.
The right bugs are Bug 140755 and eventually Bug 137247

Changed.

nand (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 29 Jul 08 at 11:58
Changed to "New".
In fact, I'm not sure if this behavior is by design (and in this case, this is a valid idea) or if this is not behaving as designed (and in this case, it is just a bugreport, and it should not be here)

TheQuickBrownFox wrote on the 14 Nov 08 at 16:44
In Intrepid you can set the password as blank and it doesn't ask anymore. I'm glad too because I don't want to use Wicd when there is such a nice new network manager.

tchalvakspam wrote on the 9 Jan 09 at 05:58
To deal with this problem, run seahorse/"Passwords and Encryption" and go to its "preferences" in the menu. That's the (mostly hidden) location that manages the keyrings.

saivann (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 22 Feb 09 at 18:41
How to disable password keyring (and use unsafe password storage) :

Intrepid :
1. Go to Applications / Accessories / Passwords and Encryption.
2. Click on Edit / Preferences
3. In the Password Keyring tab, select the "login" keyring and click on "Change unlock password".
4. Leave the new password blank and apply changes.

Jaunty :
1. Go to Applications / Accessories / Passwords and Encryption.
2. Go to the "passwords" tab.
3. Right click on the login keyring and click "change password".
4. Leave the new password blank and apply changes.

So it's already possible to have unsafe password storage, however I don't know about automatic unlock of the keyring with GNOME autologin, there might be security reasons why it isn't enabled by default at mean time.

ronchong wrote on the 15 Nov 09 at 02:55
to stop the keyring from popping up...
right click the connection
EDIT the connection
go to which connection of concern
select it
then click on EDIT...
there will be a pop up asking you if u want to save the default keyring for every connect.. just click YES
and VOILA!
no more annoying pop up!!!
at least it worked for me..
i just tried it and rebooted.. and no pop up.. :)
hope it works for you also!

whittaker007 wrote on the 20 Nov 09 at 08:45
Awesome ronchong, that's just what we need - automatic wireless authentication without insecure global keyring access. Now if I could just figure out how to grant permissions for shutdown/restart...


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