Written by vectart the 25 Oct 09 at 09:52.

I like new style, what has indicator-applet and indicator-applet-session.

Here is it:

I like new style, what has indicator-applet and indicator-applet-session. Here is it: <img src="http://www.xamp.ru/traygood.png" />

Written by luisjeronimo the 27 Oct 09 at 11:46.

Some can think this is silly, but i think it would be a good solution, that Ubuntu make a new notification area fully costumisable and it should be very intuitive, like you could pass all the icons with one click only.

Some can think this is silly, but i think it would be a good solution, that Ubuntu make a new notification area fully costumisable and it should be very intuitive, like you could pass all the icons with one click only.

Written by azhar the 31 Oct 09 at 21:33.

I know its a bit long, but, plzzzz do read what I wrote.... i think it's worth....

Well, first of all, kudos for the guy who noticed what I call to be inconsistencies. You see, we should have a standard way to display notifications. i read the comments, and, I can see some explained why the behaviour is such.
Anyway... What I wanted to point out, is, well.... Why is that toolbar sooooo dull??? Why??? Just look at the first illustration/screenshot that Vectart provided....
It's not that I'm saying that brown is ugly, but, truth be told, its not appealing at all. Why can't we use vibrant, cool, fresh, and very lively colours. I know all too well that Ubuntu is somewhat more centered on what I call 'brown themes'. But hey! Who said we cant use brown in an elegant way.
What I'm trying to say is that we must just marry the colours. Like, when having a default brown background, that does not necessarily mean that the notification or button should be brown in colour. Ubuntu's identity isn't limited to the colour brown. Ubuntu is not known for being the most-brown-centric OS! Come'on guys! I'm pretty sure we can replace all this unappealing and dull brown notification/button by cool blue, or green. Moreover, we should consider a glassy or glossy look and feel.

Now! Plz! Don't think I'm one of those who wished Ubuntu resembles a Mac or whatever... What I'm trying to say is that I'm pretty convinced that we have great talents in the Open Community. And, I'm also pretty sure that we could do a much much much better job when it comes to the look and feel of Ubuntu..

I know its a bit long, but, plzzzz do read what I wrote.... i think it's worth.... Well, first of all, kudos for the guy who noticed what I call to be inconsistencies. You see, we should have a standard way to display notifications. i read the comments, and, I can see some explained why the behaviour is such. Anyway... What I wanted to point out, is, well.... Why is that toolbar sooooo dull??? Why??? Just look at the first illustration/screenshot that Vectart provided.... It's not that I'm saying that brown is ugly, but, truth be told, its not appealing at all. Why can't we use vibrant, cool, fresh, and very lively colours. I know all too well that Ubuntu is somewhat more centered on what I call 'brown themes'. But hey! Who said we cant use brown in an elegant way. What I'm trying to say is that we must just marry the colours. Like, when having a default brown background, that does not necessarily mean that the notification or button should be brown in colour. Ubuntu's identity isn't limited to the colour brown. Ubuntu is not known for being the most-brown-centric OS! Come'on guys! I'm pretty sure we can replace all this unappealing and dull brown notification/button by cool blue, or green. Moreover, we should consider a glassy or glossy look and feel. Now! Plz! Don't think I'm one of those who wished Ubuntu resembles a Mac or whatever... What I'm trying to say is that I'm pretty convinced that we have great talents in the Open Community. And, I'm also pretty sure that we could do a much much much better job when it comes to the look and feel of Ubuntu.. Now, maybe some of you will argue that Ubuntu is more concerned with being free, open source, and a stable OS with less bugs that Windows lets say. And, that if some novice users don't know how to use Ubuntu, they just have to learn, and if, even after that, they can't get it, then, well.... just too bad.... But! Hey! REMEMBER UBUNTU'S MOTTO: Linux For Human beings!! Let's live up to that! Let's work to achieve that! Let's work together to show to the world that Ubuntu is really a user friendly OS. That linux is not a niche market, as many at Redmond would have us believe! That linux can be great!! That linux is THE WAY softwares should have been! That the open community nurtures great artistic talents! And who knows?? That could encourage mopre people to join in, and bring much more talent! BTW, why not have Compiz-Fusion integrated into Ubuntu by default, just like in MINT LINUX?? Many people never heard of Compiz because it's just too messy and difficult to setup. I myself, required the help of a linux genius. That said, all my thanks goes to him, for, he was the one who introduced me to Ubuntu.... I hope I was able to convey my thoughts on this issue... And thanks for reading :)

Written by Breakable the 2 Nov 09 at 20:54.

I like button style more than changing icon background. And it should require less testing for the icons.

I like button style more than changing icon background. And it should require less testing for the icons.

Written by rrnwexec the 5 Nov 09 at 23:31.

The Ayatana project is an effort to make Ubuntu more "human". This thread is a perfect candidate for inclusion. Can someone from the team adopt/nominate it, or can someone here track down an Ayatana member and have them participate in the discussion?

The Ayatana project is an effort to make Ubuntu more "human". This thread is a perfect candidate for inclusion. Can someone from the team adopt/nominate it, or can someone here track down an Ayatana member and have them participate in the discussion?

Written by Shady3D the 30 Oct 09 at 18:53.

there is nothing to explain here, just find what is making Nautilus slow and eliminate it

there is nothing to explain here, just find what is making Nautilus slow and eliminate it

Written by Shady3D the 30 Oct 09 at 19:02.

this is my version of simplified Nautilus

this is my version of simplified Nautilus <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Rl0PV1ZWJqDhEbW0XgOwTQ?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1Oj--fc3ui0/Sus2DBGNgOI/AAAAAAAAAQk/sHThsCbM7qs/s400/Untitled.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right"></td></tr></table>

Written by Shady3D the 30 Oct 09 at 19:15.

i think libraries exceed the idea that Microsoft done, its more powerful than that, so let me explain uses of library

Case (1): i use Dropbox for file sharing and ubuntuOne and Document are located under ~/Documents so what is the solution to make this? every one will say links links is good but at some point this becomes very bad, if you want to share some docs on UbuntuOne and the other on Dropbox also if you have some documents spread out on other places like external HDD it would be problematic to update links manually.

Case (2): better suited for the cloud, imagine if you could just open your Facebook or Picasa images from nautilus how this would be done, this should work the same way with the availability of the API (and there is a project dedicated for that called "DataPortability Project")

i think libraries exceed the idea that Microsoft done, its more powerful than that, so let me explain uses of library Case (1): i use Dropbox for file sharing and ubuntuOne and Document are located under ~/Documents so what is the solution to make this? every one will say links links is good but at some point this becomes very bad, if you want to share some docs on UbuntuOne and the other on Dropbox also if you have some documents spread out on other places like external HDD it would be problematic to update links manually. Case (2): better suited for the cloud, imagine if you could just open your Facebook or Picasa images from nautilus how this would be done, this should work the same way with the availability of the API (and there is a project dedicated for that called "DataPortability Project") <table style="width:auto;"><tr><td><a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/_QO-9EBlNb6XD1cUtRA8oA?feat=embedwebsite"><img src="http://lh5.ggpht.com/_1Oj--fc3ui0/Sus2QXDUBZI/AAAAAAAAAQo/EnItdyFhlPc/s400/3635245986_f012f98854.jpg" /></a></td></tr><tr><td style="font-family:arial,sans-serif; font-size:11px; text-align:right"></td></tr></table>

Written by Shady3D the 30 Oct 09 at 19:27.

gloobus is a pretty-good project and its progressing very well, so i think its the best candidate available.

gloobus project: https://launchpad.net/gloobus

gloobus is a pretty-good project and its progressing very well, so i think its the best candidate available. gloobus project: https://launchpad.net/gloobus

Written by Shady3D the 30 Oct 09 at 19:38.

this solution should be available but NOT enable by default, this can make Ubuntu looks very beautiful, by enabling this feature it will see if the folder is named Movies and then its grabs the poster, and if the folder is named Music it will change every folder with the album cover or if its a band it will be the band picture.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/SsX9dlPsYiI/AAAAAAAADdg/lH-qnrRNjZU/s1600 /screenshot_030.png

this solution should be available but NOT enable by default, this can make Ubuntu looks very beautiful, by enabling this feature it will see if the folder is named Movies and then its grabs the poster, and if the folder is named Music it will change every folder with the album cover or if its a band it will be the band picture. http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_FJH0hYZmVtc/SsX9dlPsYiI/AAAAAAAADdg/lH-qnrRNjZU/s1600/screenshot_030.png

Written by azhar the 30 Oct 09 at 22:19.

Truth be told, for the majority of people, Linux distros is equal to CLI.
Now, we all know that's false... But, yet, the majority of people do think so...

You know, in my opinion.... I think when someone has a look at a Linux Distro(in that case Ubuntu), he should feel like he wants to embrace the free community at once. What I mean to say, is, that he should be soooo impressed by the background, the Toolbars' design, and the feel in general, that he wishes to go OpenSource almost instantly, and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, this discriminate view against Linux Distros should disappear immediately in his mind.

Now, how do we achieve this??
Its all about the UI.
We should have glassy, and glossy toolbars. And, it should be in very vibrant and lively, and cool colours. It shouldn't be some dull, dark black, or I don't know what colour. It should appeal to the user. It should feel fresh! :)

Moreover, the icons should be stylishly designed. Very beautifully designed. Very trendy, and cool. Again, something that appeals to the user. And not some 2-D clunky and dull-looking icons.

The time has come to show people that the open-communtiy has great resources and talents! Its time to show people that we have taste, not only for stability, or security, even though these are essential components of an OS, but that we also have exquisite taste when it comes to the UI.

Truth be told, for the majority of people, Linux distros is equal to CLI. Now, we all know that's false... But, yet, the majority of people do think so... You know, in my opinion.... I think when someone has a look at a Linux Distro(in that case Ubuntu), he should feel like he wants to embrace the free community at once. What I mean to say, is, that he should be soooo impressed by the background, the Toolbars' design, and the feel in general, that he wishes to go OpenSource almost instantly, and, MOST IMPORTANTLY, this discriminate view against Linux Distros should disappear immediately in his mind. Now, how do we achieve this?? Its all about the UI. We should have glassy, and glossy toolbars. And, it should be in very vibrant and lively, and cool colours. It shouldn't be some dull, dark black, or I don't know what colour. It should appeal to the user. It should feel fresh! :) Moreover, the icons should be stylishly designed. Very beautifully designed. Very trendy, and cool. Again, something that appeals to the user. And not some 2-D clunky and dull-looking icons. The time has come to show people that the open-communtiy has great resources and talents! Its time to show people that we have taste, not only for stability, or security, even though these are essential components of an OS, but that we also have exquisite taste when it comes to the UI. From the moment the user log into his account, to the moment he logs out, he should feel he is in the best OS. He should be excited to explain to his other friends how cool and beautifully designed his OS is. Even the logon tone should be classy. In my opinion, of the best tones is the BOREALIS set. Come'on guys! Lets show to teh world that the OpenSource community has some great talents!! And has exquisite taste!

Written by Lachu the 31 Oct 09 at 08:26.

Add search button on top of Nautilus window. It will search in man for commands operates on files. The main problem is that man is not fully readable by computer, but text style in man pages are very semantically.

People needs similar thinks to Ubiquity Mozilla's project on file management. It would be great if I can input backup, select "cp -b " command and check all files in checkbox. In next step I can save some settings of this dialog, set name and put generated button on the panel. When this button is clicked similar dialog will been displayed, but option all files could be checked(if I decided that on dialog creating process).

Second cases: Mathew needs to backup files from current directory onto CD. He only input burn and he got option like brasero or CLI commands to burning files. He only select some cli command and drag files to burn or select all files checkbox.

Add search button on top of Nautilus window. It will search in man for commands operates on files. The main problem is that man is not fully readable by computer, but text style in man pages are very semantically. People needs similar thinks to Ubiquity Mozilla's project on file management. It would be great if I can input backup, select "cp -b " command and check all files in checkbox. In next step I can save some settings of this dialog, set name and put generated button on the panel. When this button is clicked similar dialog will been displayed, but option all files could be checked(if I decided that on dialog creating process). Second cases: Mathew needs to backup files from current directory onto CD. He only input burn and he got option like brasero or CLI commands to burning files. He only select some cli command and drag files to burn or select all files checkbox.

Written by Shady3D the 31 Oct 09 at 12:42.

ease of use include having options available like "open as admin", "set as background", and the most important one "UNDO"

another important feature is Mass Renaming without using extra applications, and one of the ways to do that is by
1. selecting the files/folders
2. right-click to rename the first element
3. rename like you are renaming a regular file BUT include special characters like # for numbering, ex: # >> 0, 1, 2 but ## >> 00, 01, 02
4. click enter and nautilus will rename the other files

extra commands like converting to uppercase just type UPPERCASE and it will automatically convert them without renaming them, lowercase, switch between space to underscore, and all this cane be can be done the same way.

ease of use include having options available like "open as admin", "set as background", and the most important one "UNDO" another important feature is Mass Renaming without using extra applications, and one of the ways to do that is by 1. selecting the files/folders 2. right-click to rename the first element 3. rename like you are renaming a regular file BUT include special characters like # for numbering, ex: # >> 0, 1, 2 but ## >> 00, 01, 02 4. click enter and nautilus will rename the other files extra commands like converting to uppercase just type UPPERCASE and it will automatically convert them without renaming them, lowercase, switch between space to underscore, and all this cane be can be done the same way.

Written by robinparriath the 1 Nov 09 at 14:25.

Uniform icon size would really improve the arrangement of icons on screen.

Say, you have 3 pdfs, 2 movies and 4 folders in a folder. The overall arrangement in Nautilus helps in identifying which is which, but at the cost of neatness.

I propose and upper limit for the icon size, that can be set through the options in shady3d's solution #2

Uniform icon size would really improve the arrangement of icons on screen. Say, you have 3 pdfs, 2 movies and 4 folders in a folder. The overall arrangement in Nautilus helps in identifying which is which, but at the cost of neatness. I propose and upper limit for the icon size, that can be set through the options in shady3d's solution #2

Written by foplat the 4 Nov 09 at 07:01.

I've read the solutions provided above and I also think that Nautilus's UI should be renewed, or creating a new way to browse through files and folders.

My solution includes solutions #1 and #6 but also this: how about also including Gnome Do (http://do.davebsd.com/) program along with the Ubuntu and #1 and #6? It is a powerful tool that provides easy access not only to files and folders but also to search results, microblogging, e-mail etc. It is inspired by Quicksilver from Macs. Here is a presentation video of the Quicksilver, since Gnome Do is very, very similar program. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8493378861634507068#

I've read the solutions provided above and I also think that Nautilus's UI should be renewed, or creating a new way to browse through files and folders. My solution includes solutions #1 and #6 but also this: how about also including Gnome Do (http://do.davebsd.com/) program along with the Ubuntu and #1 and #6? It is a powerful tool that provides easy access not only to files and folders but also to search results, microblogging, e-mail etc. It is inspired by Quicksilver from Macs. Here is a presentation video of the Quicksilver, since Gnome Do is very, very similar program. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8493378861634507068#

Written by Leopard2A5 the 5 Nov 09 at 07:23.

When i have files on the clipboard and i want to paste them into a folder that's too full (so that there's no unused space between the last file and the window border) i have to move one folder upwards and then right-click and click "paste into folder".

It's way more intuitive to just right-click anywhere in the target folder (as long as you don't right-click a contained folder) and hit "paste". (Windows does it that way).

I love linux, but i always thought this is a disadvantage compared to Windows.

When i have files on the clipboard and i want to paste them into a folder that's too full (so that there's no unused space between the last file and the window border) i have to move one folder upwards and then right-click and click "paste into folder". It's way more intuitive to just right-click anywhere in the target folder (as long as you don't right-click a contained folder) and hit "paste". (Windows does it that way). I love linux, but i always thought this is a disadvantage compared to Windows.

Written by Leopard2A5 the 5 Nov 09 at 08:17.

I know, nautilus is not the windows explorer, but even this bit of software has some nice features, i'm referring to the feature in the "path-bar" in which you can change the directory of any element in the path with a drop-down list.

I know, nautilus is not the windows explorer, but even this bit of software has some nice features, i'm referring to the feature in the "path-bar" in which you can change the directory of any element in the path with a drop-down list. <a href="http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UG2a06217_FtdHH9OCYQWg?feat=embedwebsite"> <img src="http://lh3.ggpht.com/_FHqRKaCTPBI/SvKJ8LqA0nI/AAAAAAAAABc/XwwyI7c5_QI/s144/Bildschirmfoto-jvm%20-%20Datei-Browser.png"/> </a>

Written by ElliottCB the 5 Nov 09 at 11:42.

There is a lot of functionality buried in Windows Explorer, in particular in the area of Shell Extensions. I happen to have done some development in this area and would be interested to know if it could be done (or has been done!) in Ubuntu. I might suggest the following specific features:

1) Allow the customisation of a specific directory and/or its sub-directories by the inclusion of a format file. Explorer does this with an HTM file. We might prefer XML. At any rate, it would be a flexible way to specify a background image, fonts, icons, buttons to start actions and so forth. Just put a file with a specified name (e.g. "customise.xml") in the directory with some tags saying what colours, fonts and so on should be applied.

2) An extension type to modify the context menu on a file or directory on-the-fly. For instance, you could modify the behaviour of text files globally or in a directory by adding an option to the context menu which invokes a library function to XML-transform it then open it in Firefox. Or whatever. "Owner-draw" context menus would enable you to actually put pictures or formatted text in the menu itself.

3) Extensions to modify the pop-up tips on a file type - again, globally or by directory. (Perhaps in "customise.xml"...) A picture file could have a picture pop-up, for instance, or a summary of the EXIF data.

4) A namespace extension to allow one to drill down into files the way one can browse ZIP files in Explorer.

There is a lot of functionality buried in Windows Explorer, in particular in the area of Shell Extensions. I happen to have done some development in this area and would be interested to know if it could be done (or has been done!) in Ubuntu. I might suggest the following specific features: 1) Allow the customisation of a specific directory and/or its sub-directories by the inclusion of a format file. Explorer does this with an HTM file. We might prefer XML. At any rate, it would be a flexible way to specify a background image, fonts, icons, buttons to start actions and so forth. Just put a file with a specified name (e.g. "customise.xml") in the directory with some tags saying what colours, fonts and so on should be applied. 2) An extension type to modify the context menu on a file or directory on-the-fly. For instance, you could modify the behaviour of text files globally or in a directory by adding an option to the context menu which invokes a library function to XML-transform it then open it in Firefox. Or whatever. "Owner-draw" context menus would enable you to actually put pictures or formatted text in the menu itself. 3) Extensions to modify the pop-up tips on a file type - again, globally or by directory. (Perhaps in "customise.xml"...) A picture file could have a picture pop-up, for instance, or a summary of the EXIF data. 4) A namespace extension to allow one to drill down into files the way one can browse ZIP files in Explorer. 5) A namespace extension to allow one to add a panel to the files view in which file content or properties can be shown 6) Drag-Drop handler extensions to allow modification of the way files behave when dropped one on the other. Photoshop "Droplets" might be a good model - you can drop a batch of pictures on a little file and the operations it defines will be applied to the picture. And a non-Explorer suggestion: x) A reg-ex enabled filter to hide/show or select/unselect heterogeneous selections of files. Excuse me if I'm re-inventing an old Ubuntu wheel. These are my first hours here! This is a lot of work, but I think the various elements could be cleanly decoupled. The role of the XML file in applying extensions locally or conditionally might need some thought.

Written by nlao the 5 Nov 09 at 14:10.

Here is my tuppence worth of ideas, but I think fixing missing simple user enhancements and soem bugs would go a long way to making it better.

Here are a couple that really annoy me, I expect there are others.

Adding in features like "view as thumbnails" per folder would go a long way to helping make it better.

Icon placement on Desktop, this really really needs sorting. There is not a structured grid for icons, some end up close to others whilst others are miles away and dragging them around come to nothing they still end up looking like a jumble. Further to this is the placement of removable media icons. These really should not be over other icons on the desktop.

Here is my tuppence worth of ideas, but I think fixing missing simple user enhancements and soem bugs would go a long way to making it better. Here are a couple that really annoy me, I expect there are others. Adding in features like "view as thumbnails" per folder would go a long way to helping make it better. Icon placement on Desktop, this really really needs sorting. There is not a structured grid for icons, some end up close to others whilst others are miles away and dragging them around come to nothing they still end up looking like a jumble. Further to this is the placement of removable media icons. These really should not be over other icons on the desktop.

Written by biffen the 5 Nov 09 at 15:46.

Opening a directory from anywhere outside of nautilus should open it in a new tab in an existing nautilus window (if there is one, otherwise open a new one, of course).

Opening multiple windows should of course still be possible. (Think Firefox.)

This behaviour would of course be optional (but default?) by settings.

How this would work when there is already more than one window open, is an other question.

Opening a directory from anywhere outside of nautilus should open it in a new tab in an existing nautilus window (if there is one, otherwise open a new one, of course). Opening multiple windows should of course still be possible. (Think Firefox.) This behaviour would of course be optional (but default?) by settings. How this would work when there is already more than one window open, is an other question.

Written by young the 6 Nov 09 at 14:03.

The title says it all. Nautilus has no future. It's a mess.

The title says it all. Nautilus has no future. It's a mess.

Written by alkx4444 the 6 Nov 09 at 22:42.

there should be a new tab button ans-well as the right click open in new tab button, the new tab button (if added) should open the home folder as default. or, the home button could open in a new tab as default.

there should be a new tab button ans-well as the right click open in new tab button, the new tab button (if added) should open the home folder as default. or, the home button could open in a new tab as default.

Written by Mirek2 the 7 Nov 09 at 11:42.

The address bar has an enormous amount of potential, and while browsers are experimenting with ways to get the most use out of them as possible, file managers are lagging behind.
We could use the address bar for (just brainstorming):
1. Search (like Google Chrome's omnibar)
2. Getting to locations quickly (like in Firefox and Chrome: when you type "X11", for instance, a drop-down would suggest "/usr/bin/X11")
3. Terminal commands
4. Custom commands (for example, "Search web ", "E-mail ", or "New ")

The address bar has an enormous amount of potential, and while browsers are experimenting with ways to get the most use out of them as possible, file managers are lagging behind. We could use the address bar for (just brainstorming): 1. Search (like Google Chrome's omnibar) 2. Getting to locations quickly (like in Firefox and Chrome: when you type "X11", for instance, a drop-down would suggest "/usr/bin/X11") 3. Terminal commands 4. Custom commands (for example, "Search web <search term>", "E-mail <e-mail address>", or "New <filename>")

Written by Mirek2 the 7 Nov 09 at 12:12.

In addition to the mass rename in solution 8, there should be:
1. An unintrusive balloon showing the different special characters (# or %n for number, %m for month, 0d for day in two digits, %r(text to replace, text replaced with) for replace, etc.)
2. A more-clearly-explained dialog window (perhaps similar to Total Commander's, which has done a really good job with mass renaming)

In addition to the mass rename in solution 8, there should be: 1. An unintrusive balloon showing the different special characters (# or %n for number, %m for month, 0d for day in two digits, %r(text to replace, text replaced with) for replace, etc.) 2. A more-clearly-explained dialog window (perhaps similar to Total Commander's, which has done a really good job with mass renaming)

Written by Mirek2 the 7 Nov 09 at 12:23.

Simply implement a "Columns" view similar to that in KDE's Dolphin and Mac OS Finder.

Simply implement a "Columns" view similar to that in KDE's Dolphin and Mac OS Finder.

Written by Mirek2 the 7 Nov 09 at 13:06.

All the files cut or copied from any application would appear in this section. It could hold multiple files, so if I dragged an image in, then a document, then an image, it would hold all of these.
(Paste would apply to only the last one cut/copied.)
Use cases:
1) Instead of cut/move, the user can drag-and-drop a file into the section.
2) Instead of paste, the user can drag-and-drop a file from the section to paste it to a folder.
3) To create a text file: I can copy text from anywhere, have that appear in this sidebar, and drag it to the place to create a text file.
4) Instead of save: I can copy an image from Firefox, have that appear in this sidebar, and drag it to the place I want to have it.
Kind of a variation on the Clipboard/Shelf, but maybe doesn't have too many advantages to require an implementation. If someone wants to brainstorm more on this, they're welcome.
Perhaps a better thing would be a system-wide revision of the Clipboard.

All the files cut or copied from any application would appear in this section. It could hold multiple files, so if I dragged an image in, then a document, then an image, it would hold all of these. (Paste would apply to only the last one cut/copied.) Use cases: 1) Instead of cut/move, the user can drag-and-drop a file into the section. 2) Instead of paste, the user can drag-and-drop a file from the section to paste it to a folder. 3) To create a text file: I can copy text from anywhere, have that appear in this sidebar, and drag it to the place to create a text file. 4) Instead of save: I can copy an image from Firefox, have that appear in this sidebar, and drag it to the place I want to have it. Kind of a variation on the Clipboard/Shelf, but maybe doesn't have too many advantages to require an implementation. If someone wants to brainstorm more on this, they're welcome. Perhaps a better thing would be a system-wide revision of the Clipboard.

Written by Shady3D the 10 Oct 09 at 19:45.

the setup wizard will just take the username and password and thats it.

what will the wizard do is:
1. connect to Gmail using POP or IMAP
2. better address-book sync
3. auto connect with Google Calendar
4. auto connect with Google Tasks(i don't know if there is API available for that)

the setup wizard will just take the username and password and thats it. what will the wizard do is: 1. connect to Gmail using POP or IMAP 2. better address-book sync 3. auto connect with Google Calendar 4. auto connect with Google Tasks(i don't know if there is API available for that)

Written by ActionParsnip the 13 Oct 09 at 11:33.

Not too hard, could be a simple option on the initial startup screen.

Not too hard, could be a simple option on the initial startup screen.

Written by tmoc the 14 Oct 09 at 03:34.

Yes, I know this idea is about GMail, but we might as well add the same type of support for Live Mail and AOL, which both offer POP access as well.

Yes, I know this idea is about GMail, but we might as well add the same type of support for Live Mail and AOL, which both offer POP access as well.

Written by snostorm the 17 Oct 09 at 15:35.

Thunderbird has much better webmail integration, and is much easier to set up than Evolution, particularly in the upcoming version 3.0. It's also got better add ons, and is part of the Mozilla suite. Calendar support can be provided through Lightning, a add-on developed by Mozilla that could be included in Thunderbird by default. (If it doesn't end up included in the official 3.0 anyway) Why not just have Thunderbird as the default? If someone wants Evolution, it's in the repository.

Thunderbird has much better webmail integration, and is much easier to set up than Evolution, particularly in the upcoming version 3.0. It's also got better add ons, and is part of the Mozilla suite. Calendar support can be provided through Lightning, a add-on developed by Mozilla that could be included in Thunderbird by default. (If it doesn't end up included in the official 3.0 anyway) Why not just have Thunderbird as the default? If someone wants Evolution, it's in the repository.

Written by Rodrigo the 19 Oct 09 at 21:04.

One of the things that anyones me the most is the slowness of Evolution when it comes to handling IMAP emails (like gmail) improving that speed will improve the user experience.
Here is a bug that relates to this problem:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336076
lets fix those little things!

One of the things that anyones me the most is the slowness of Evolution when it comes to handling IMAP emails (like gmail) improving that speed will improve the user experience. Here is a bug that relates to this problem: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=336076 lets fix those little things!

Written by homerhomer the 22 Oct 09 at 23:39.

1) If Evolution is going to use the notification area ( which I like ) I should be able to hide it from the task-bar. Personally, I think they should add this EASY to add feature, but until that time Ubuntu should use alltray like they say - http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Can_I_minimize_the_Evolution_window_to_the_syst em_tray.3F

2) Also when I'm using IMAP with Gmail in Evolution is should hide the local account that's not being used. There is no need for extra clutter.

I like evolution but sometimes I feel they are not working with the community.

1) If Evolution is going to use the notification area ( which I like ) I should be able to hide it from the task-bar. Personally, I think they should add this EASY to add feature, but until that time Ubuntu should use alltray like they say - http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#Can_I_minimize_the_Evolution_window_to_the_system_tray.3F 2) Also when I'm using IMAP with Gmail in Evolution is should hide the local account that's not being used. There is no need for extra clutter. I like evolution but sometimes I feel they are not working with the community.

Written by Zaklikestorawk the 29 Oct 09 at 21:43.

I love how in the browser Gmail the conversations are put into those handy little "Conversation threads"

I'm not sure about you guys, but I would even use evolution till the conversation threads are in.

I love how in the browser Gmail the conversations are put into those handy little "Conversation threads" I'm not sure about you guys, but I would even use evolution till the conversation threads are in.

Written by optevo the 1 Nov 09 at 22:48.

Introduction:
An online account management application (OAMA) should be created. This application would have a simple interface and will store authentication information for various online accounts (google, hotmail, etc). In addition to basic account information, it could also store common preference associated with such accounts eg.
- IMAP vs POP
- which email account is the default
- whether to use a given account for any/all of email, chat, calendar
- whether to set the account up in the browser (eg. create bookmarks and save user/password information for the relevant site)

Whenever a Communications Application (ComApp) such as a email (eg Evolution, Thunderbird), chat (eg Empathy, Pidgin), calendar (eg Evolution, Sunbird), etc is launched for the first time it should either
1. Take existing settings that were set within the OAMA and auto-configure itself accordingly
2. If the OAMA has never been launched, the ComApp should invoke it first

ADVANTAGES:
- Once the OAMA has been run, any ComApp should be able to be launched with zero initial configuration and be usable
- Single point of configuration for all ComApps

Introduction: An online account management application (OAMA) should be created. This application would have a simple interface and will store authentication information for various online accounts (google, hotmail, etc). In addition to basic account information, it could also store common preference associated with such accounts eg. - IMAP vs POP - which email account is the default - whether to use a given account for any/all of email, chat, calendar - whether to set the account up in the browser (eg. create bookmarks and save user/password information for the relevant site) Whenever a Communications Application (ComApp) such as a email (eg Evolution, Thunderbird), chat (eg Empathy, Pidgin), calendar (eg Evolution, Sunbird), etc is launched for the first time it should either 1. Take existing settings that were set within the OAMA and auto-configure itself accordingly 2. If the OAMA has never been launched, the ComApp should invoke it first ADVANTAGES: - Once the OAMA has been run, any ComApp should be able to be launched with zero initial configuration and be usable - Single point of configuration for all ComApps - Easier configuration of all ComApps - Easier to change between different ComApps Additional suggestions: If a preference that is managed by OAMA is changed within the ComApp, the preferences in the OAMA should be updated. In other words, there should be a 2 way sync between the OAMA and all ComApps It might be worth considering having the OAMA run as part of the Ubuntu install process.

Written by natetechboy128 the 3 Nov 09 at 04:34.

If you sync .gconf/apps/evolution, it keeps Evolution in sync across computers. On the U1 website, simply add a parser for the gconf file, and boom. Instant setup, and if U1 ever feels like giving us webmail... Like solution 8.

If you sync .gconf/apps/evolution, it keeps Evolution in sync across computers. On the U1 website, simply add a parser for the gconf file, and boom. Instant setup, and if U1 ever feels like giving us webmail... Like solution 8.

Written by alkx4444 the 8 Nov 09 at 02:19.

I think that there should be a new, GOOD e-mail application, exclusive to ubuntu. and it should automatically be installed when you install the operating system in the next release, replacing evolution mail. I propose the name for it to be: Myal , a twist on the word mail.

I think that there should be a new, GOOD e-mail application, exclusive to ubuntu. and it should automatically be installed when you install the operating system in the next release, replacing evolution mail. I propose the name for it to be: Myal , a twist on the word mail.

Written by Fabian Andres the 2 Nov 09 at 20:07.

This should be an application placed in

System > Administration > Startup Administration

Like this one:


KGRUBEditor

(KGRUBEditor unfortunately only works with the old Grub, not with GRUB2.)

Of course, the application would need Root permissions to start (The user should type his password). It would be nice if an application like this was natively installed.

This should be an application placed in System > Administration > Startup Administration Like this one: <img src="http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/7025/adminl.jpg" /> <a href="http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=75442"> KGRUBEditor </a> (KGRUBEditor unfortunately only works with the old Grub, not with GRUB2.) Of course, the application would need Root permissions to start (The user should type his password). It would be nice if an application like this was natively installed.

Written by sirish.gauni the 1 Nov 09 at 18:00.

You could just add a pause option to the software center and also show the download rates. Further more if the software center can be made such a way that when the network/internet goes off the download doesn't stop completely and starts from where it left of when the internet is back.

This idea can also be applied to Update manager.

You could just add a pause option to the software center and also show the download rates. Further more if the software center can be made such a way that when the network/internet goes off the download doesn't stop completely and starts from where it left of when the internet is back. This idea can also be applied to Update manager.

Written by azhar the 3 Nov 09 at 00:32.

I'd propose more or less the same solution as SIRISH.GAUNI. In fact, in the Updater, we have the download rate being displayed. So, why not extend it to the Software Centre too. And, BTW, the implementation of a download manager, capable of resuming downloads would surely help.

Besides, it would be great if we had to enter our password only once when we start using the Software Centre, for it's really very annoying to have to enter the password several times when downloading several items. Or else, we could be asked to enter the password just before all the downloads start.

I'd propose more or less the same solution as SIRISH.GAUNI. In fact, in the Updater, we have the download rate being displayed. So, why not extend it to the Software Centre too. And, BTW, the implementation of a download manager, capable of resuming downloads would surely help. Besides, it would be great if we had to enter our password only once when we start using the Software Centre, for it's really very annoying to have to enter the password several times when downloading several items. Or else, we could be asked to enter the password just before all the downloads start.

Written by gohilurvish the 5 Nov 09 at 11:13.

While downloading software, mostly system uses whole bandwidth. This may create some issues if you are sharing your connection with other over network. While downloading, its difficult for others to even surf regular sites.

Keeping a torrent like option to limit bandwidth will surely help apart from download rates and pause option. Moreover if system goes down by any change (power failure for desktops), downloading should start from the same point (I don't know if it is already there).

While downloading software, mostly system uses whole bandwidth. This may create some issues if you are sharing your connection with other over network. While downloading, its difficult for others to even surf regular sites. Keeping a torrent like option to limit bandwidth will surely help apart from download rates and pause option. Moreover if system goes down by any change (power failure for desktops), downloading should start from the same point (I don't know if it is already there).

Written by azhar the 5 Nov 09 at 14:31.

There could be an option where we tell the Software Centre to download the applications only when our connection is idle.
I'm not sure.... But I think Adobe lets you do this during an update, whereby you can check a box to specify that the download should take place only when the connection is idle.
Anyway, it would be great to have such an option...

There could be an option where we tell the Software Centre to download the applications only when our connection is idle. I'm not sure.... But I think Adobe lets you do this during an update, whereby you can check a box to specify that the download should take place only when the connection is idle. Anyway, it would be great to have such an option...

Written by Sebin Benjamin the 5 Nov 09 at 16:47.

Allow multiple downloads to take place using all of the bandwidth Or limit usage. Sometimes some files have very low speed. So simultaneous downloads would be helpfull

Allow multiple downloads to take place using all of the bandwidth Or limit usage. Sometimes some files have very low speed. So simultaneous downloads would be helpfull

Written by Stebalien the 18 Oct 09 at 21:06.

The software center needs comments, a most popular application category, and an app of the day link.

It could also be integrated with a laconi.ca server where people could comment on favorite applications from within the software center.

This would greatly help new users find useful Open Source Software.

The software center needs comments, a most popular application category, and an app of the day link. It could also be integrated with a laconi.ca server where people could comment on favorite applications from within the software center. This would greatly help new users find useful Open Source Software.

Written by Stebalien the 18 Oct 09 at 21:10.

The Software Center should be integrated into launchpad and the Ubuntu Forums.
A program would have a list of known (confirmed) bugs attached to it.

The Software Center should be integrated into launchpad and the Ubuntu Forums. A program would have a list of known (confirmed) bugs attached to it.

Written by Rodrigo the 19 Oct 09 at 11:52.

It could be nice to have a "star rating system" like othere webs have. Either by popularity, or by user experience... of course this would take some time to get the data but in the long term it could help.
How many times have you look in forums and similar webs what is the "best" application for something, this way it would all be in the same app.

It could be nice to have a "star rating system" like othere webs have. Either by popularity, or by user experience... of course this would take some time to get the data but in the long term it could help. How many times have you look in forums and similar webs what is the "best" application for something, this way it would all be in the same app.

Written by Shady3D the 19 Oct 09 at 13:41.

allow users to have profile, so the system know what packages i installed and if i install my system from scratch for any reason, it can be easier to install my applications again.

but also allow multiple profiles for one user, so if i have a PC and a laptop, it won't mix both.

allow users to have profile, so the system know what packages i installed and if i install my system from scratch for any reason, it can be easier to install my applications again. but also allow multiple profiles for one user, so if i have a PC and a laptop, it won't mix both.

Written by snostorm the 23 Oct 09 at 21:48.

For each program, create a wiki-like page that describes the function of the program and any known major issues with it. Logged-in users could edit it right in the Software Center, or through a web browser.

For each program, create a wiki-like page that describes the function of the program and any known major issues with it. Logged-in users could edit it right in the Software Center, or through a web browser.

Written by snostorm the 23 Oct 09 at 22:36.

Allow people to create collections of useful programs. Entire collections could be installed with one click, or browsed and installed one-by-one. Display order could be determined by having users vote on the usefulness of collection.

Allow people to create collections of useful programs. Entire collections could be installed with one click, or browsed and installed one-by-one. Display order could be determined by having users vote on the usefulness of collection.

Written by la_serpe the 25 Oct 09 at 10:27.

Add information about application size (in MB)

Add information about application size (in MB)

Written by The_Great_Bunghole the 27 Oct 09 at 22:40.

Application size, Star-rating system, bug warnings & socialized environment. All of these would be great solutions, but if you integrate all of them in some way, it could make for a very informative way of choosing and installing applications, whilst being able to voice your opinion (rating system & comments).

Application size, Star-rating system, bug warnings & socialized environment. All of these would be great solutions, but if you integrate all of them in some way, it could make for a very informative way of choosing and installing applications, whilst being able to voice your opinion (rating system & comments).

Written by Lachu the 29 Oct 09 at 18:21.

Just giving each program a forum, accessible via software center and application itselves.

Just giving each program a forum, accessible via software center and application itselves.

Written by thehosh the 2 Nov 09 at 02:04.

When wanting to install multiple applications, you have install that one, and then go back to install the next one.. sometimes you might want to install multiple ones with just one click, add a button "Add to basket" and then batch install them all..

When wanting to install multiple applications, you have install that one, and then go back to install the next one.. sometimes you might want to install multiple ones with just one click, add a button "Add to basket" and then batch install them all..

Written by la_serpe the 2 Nov 09 at 17:48.

Allow user to to choose which applications should be updated. My idea is to do it by adding a check-box to installed applications menu. Update Manager would then search only for updates of applications an user really wants to update.

Allow user to to choose which applications should be updated. My idea is to do it by adding a check-box to installed applications menu. Update Manager would then search only for updates of applications an user really wants to update.

Written by ki4jgt the 5 Nov 09 at 17:26.

- Allow the user to have a central user name for all the services offered.
- When the program information pops up to allow the user to install, then also show the comment section.
- Include Launchpad bug reports, and what hardware, if any, is required
- Have a star rating system, and allow the user to sort the items by the most used/starred
- Allow the user to backup a profile of what software they have installed on their computer, for reinstallation later.
- Show the application size
- Integrate with an internet shopping service, to allow the user to find hardware that s/he may need to run the software. (start the search when the user clicks on the hardware's name)

- Allow the user to have a central user name for all the services offered. - When the program information pops up to allow the user to install, then also show the comment section. - Include Launchpad bug reports, and what hardware, if any, is required - Have a star rating system, and allow the user to sort the items by the most used/starred - Allow the user to backup a profile of what software they have installed on their computer, for reinstallation later. - Show the application size - Integrate with an internet shopping service, to allow the user to find hardware that s/he may need to run the software. (start the search when the user clicks on the hardware's name)

Written by snostorm the 5 Nov 09 at 18:46.

There's no way every single one of these solutions is going to make it into the future software center. By adding a plugin system, third-party developers will be able to implement solutions that don't make it into the standard software center.

There's no way every single one of these solutions is going to make it into the future software center. By adding a plugin system, third-party developers will be able to implement solutions that don't make it into the standard software center.

Written by delphiexile the 5 Nov 09 at 21:23.

A check box box near the program must be added to simplify installing more than one program at same time.

A check box box near the program must be added to simplify installing more than one program at same time.

Written by heru.htl the 6 Nov 09 at 17:57.

Some applications like Quanta has unavailable plugin (in Quanta case, Gubed is very important plugin but it's unavailable), another example is Pitivi. Regarding this matter, users sometime think this is lack of development.
This is just a suggestion, avoid such application with unavailable plugin, especially if such unavailable plugin is something essential for current application function.

Some applications like Quanta has unavailable plugin (in Quanta case, Gubed is very important plugin but it's unavailable), another example is Pitivi. Regarding this matter, users sometime think this is lack of development. This is just a suggestion, avoid such application with unavailable plugin, especially if such unavailable plugin is something essential for current application function.

Written by ralf.ebert the 7 Nov 09 at 18:07.

Create a strict, community-based, transparent system for determining application quality.

Create a application category "Recommended for new users" which is filtered based on that quality criteria. Make it clear that one is seeing a community-based selection. The full, unfiltered view should be not more than one click away.

Could use the proposed #3: Star rating system, plus reviews of description texts (which should be easy to read and to understand by people with a non-software-developer mindset) and availibilty of translated descriptions. Maybe popcon data (there are exceptions of course, but popular packages tend to be more stable) and metrics about bugs could be used as well.

Having a lot of free software is great, guiding new users to software that shines is great as well, such a system would bridge these two interests.

Also it would create an incentive for developers to polish applications.

Create a strict, community-based, transparent system for determining application quality. Create a application category "Recommended for new users" which is filtered based on that quality criteria. Make it clear that one is seeing a community-based selection. The full, unfiltered view should be not more than one click away. Could use the proposed #3: Star rating system, plus reviews of description texts (which should be easy to read and to understand by people with a non-software-developer mindset) and availibilty of translated descriptions. Maybe popcon data (there are exceptions of course, but popular packages tend to be more stable) and metrics about bugs could be used as well. Having a lot of free software is great, guiding new users to software that shines is great as well, such a system would bridge these two interests. Also it would create an incentive for developers to polish applications.

Written by jared the 22 Oct 09 at 11:55.

Banshee and many other media players will find out the CDs' name and download artwork from the internet. This could be built into the desktop.

For example when an audio CD is inserted the title of the CD will be displayed and the artwork will appear instead of the icon, in the same manor that pictures thumbnails are displayed on the desktop, perhaps with a small audio CD icon in the corner so it is easy to distinguish.

Its not a huge change but just one of those little things that would make Ubuntu seem overall more polished.

Banshee and many other media players will find out the CDs' name and download artwork from the internet. This could be built into the desktop. For example when an audio CD is inserted the title of the CD will be displayed and the artwork will appear instead of the icon, in the same manor that pictures thumbnails are displayed on the desktop, perhaps with a small audio CD icon in the corner so it is easy to distinguish. Its not a huge change but just one of those little things that would make Ubuntu seem overall more polished.

Written by aliendude5300 the 2 Nov 09 at 02:06.

This is the same as the previous solution, but it goes into more detail on how it should actually be implemented. Here's how I think it should be done:

1) When a CD is inserted, it should be determined whether or not it is an Audio CD.

2) If it is an Audio CD, the Disc ID Should then be calculated according to http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disc_ID_Calculation

3) If an internet connection is active, the open-source MusicBrainz database should be checked for a matching Disc ID.

4) If no matching disc ID is found, display the default "Audio CD" icon and text.

5) If a matching Disc ID is found, title the icon "Artist Name - CD Title". Then if possible, grab the album art and re-size it to fit the current size of the desktop icon.

6) This feature MUST be made optional, because some users obviously do NOT want it using their bandwidth, or they prefer it to be turned off for other reasons. There would be a right click option to "Disable CD Identification" or a similar option in the system preferences.

This is the same as the previous solution, but it goes into more detail on how it should actually be implemented. Here's how I think it should be done: 1) When a CD is inserted, it should be determined whether or not it is an Audio CD. 2) If it is an Audio CD, the Disc ID Should then be calculated according to http://musicbrainz.org/doc/Disc_ID_Calculation 3) If an internet connection is active, the open-source MusicBrainz database should be checked for a matching Disc ID. 4) If no matching disc ID is found, display the default "Audio CD" icon and text. 5) If a matching Disc ID is found, title the icon "Artist Name - CD Title". Then if possible, grab the album art and re-size it to fit the current size of the desktop icon. 6) This feature MUST be made optional, because some users obviously do NOT want it using their bandwidth, or they prefer it to be turned off for other reasons. There would be a right click option to "Disable CD Identification" or a similar option in the system preferences.

Written by chrismounce the 7 Nov 09 at 06:27.

Ubuntu should download different amounts of information based on how good your network connection is.

Fast connections: Download artwork and title
Slow connections, idle: Download title only
Slow connections, in use: Don't download anything

This way, people on dialup don't waste that much bandwidth, *and* we don't have to clutter a right-click menu with an extra option. The computer just does the right thing, all by itself.

A minority of people will still want to turn it off altogether, so maybe we should put such an option in the system preferences, as aliendude5300 suggested. But it should be out of the way, so it doesn't confuse the majority of users.

Ubuntu should download different amounts of information based on how good your network connection is. Fast connections: Download artwork and title Slow connections, idle: Download title only Slow connections, in use: Don't download anything This way, people on dialup don't waste that much bandwidth, *and* we don't have to clutter a right-click menu with an extra option. The computer just does the right thing, all by itself. A minority of people will still want to turn it off altogether, so maybe we should put such an option in the system preferences, as aliendude5300 suggested. But it should be out of the way, so it doesn't confuse the majority of users.

Written by aliendude5300 the 7 Nov 09 at 20:23.

Maybe you have a slow connection but you still want the Album art. Or Maybe you have a fast connection, but you don't. It should be a settable option, and not based on internet connection speed. Also, on a side note not many people are on connections as slow as dial-up anymore. The slowest speed I'd expect most people to have is 1 megabit per second download speed through DSL. Because DSL works through phone lines, that means that anyone with access to dial-up could most likely get a cheap 1Mb/s connection for around $20/month, which is reasonably affordable for most people. On a 1Mb/s connection, downloading album art, which is in many cases (I actually checked this on 4 CDs with the average being 6.5KB) less than 10KB, the download would be virtually instant, and assuming that it was exactly 10KB, on a 56Kbps (average dial-up speed) connection, it would only take 1.25 seconds to download, while on a 28.8Kbps connection it would only take 2.5 seconds to download. Even on a 14.4Kb/s dial-up connection (if you can actually manage to find one that slow) it would only take 5 seconds to download the album art. And that's considering that I used 10KB instead of the 6.5KB average. On many CDs, I'm sure it would take even less time than that. This just proves that connection speed isn't as much of an issue as you think. The only issue is if you have an internet connection or not.

Maybe you have a slow connection but you still want the Album art. Or Maybe you have a fast connection, but you don't. It should be a settable option, and not based on internet connection speed. Also, on a side note not many people are on connections as slow as dial-up anymore. The slowest speed I'd expect most people to have is 1 megabit per second download speed through DSL. Because DSL works through phone lines, that means that anyone with access to dial-up could most likely get a cheap 1Mb/s connection for around $20/month, which is reasonably affordable for most people. On a 1Mb/s connection, downloading album art, which is in many cases (I actually checked this on 4 CDs with the average being 6.5KB) less than 10KB, the download would be virtually instant, and assuming that it was exactly 10KB, on a 56Kbps (average dial-up speed) connection, it would only take 1.25 seconds to download, while on a 28.8Kbps connection it would only take 2.5 seconds to download. Even on a 14.4Kb/s dial-up connection (if you can actually manage to find one that slow) it would only take 5 seconds to download the album art. And that's considering that I used 10KB instead of the 6.5KB average. On many CDs, I'm sure it would take even less time than that. This just proves that connection speed isn't as much of an issue as you think. The only issue is if you have an internet connection or not.

Written by audunmb the 20 Oct 09 at 12:34.

Add an option when you left-click network-manager that says "restart network" which does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". Windows has a similar option, so users coming from Windows will expect it.

It is also quicker than opening a terminal, typing in the command, or copy-paste it from wherever you left the howto-note.

Add an option when you left-click network-manager that says "restart network" which does "sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart". Windows has a similar option, so users coming from Windows will expect it. It is also quicker than opening a terminal, typing in the command, or copy-paste it from wherever you left the howto-note.

Written by Dataphile the 25 Oct 09 at 18:56.

Network failure is either 1) a bug, or 2) caused by unreliable hardware in the system.

If individual bugs are fixed, then I feel it would be simpler to deal with unreliable hardware with automatic restarts, rather than manually, which only clutters the UI.

Network failure is either 1) a bug, or 2) caused by unreliable hardware in the system. If individual bugs are fixed, then I feel it would be simpler to deal with unreliable hardware with automatic restarts, rather than manually, which only clutters the UI.

Written by evefavretto the 25 Oct 09 at 21:00.

It's a simple idea, implement gestures on these touchpads. I know that can be hard to implement, I'm only suggesting.

It's a simple idea, implement gestures on these touchpads. I know that can be hard to implement, I'm only suggesting.

Written by MarineMan215 the 26 Oct 09 at 03:35.

Create a program to create custom gestures for anything!

Create a program to create custom gestures for anything!

Written by HigH5 the 26 Oct 09 at 11:28.

One could instead unlocking the computer with their password unlock it with a secret mouse gesture.

One could instead unlocking the computer with their password unlock it with a secret mouse gesture.

Written by Lex the 30 Oct 09 at 18:56.

Left button click is already simulate by tapping, so I want to propose something similar for RIGHT button as well.

two finger tapping - right button click

I think that this could be very simple and effective way. (We can possibly take this to extend and use 3 finger tap for middle button, but I'm not sure about it...)

Left button click is already simulate by tapping, so I want to propose something similar for RIGHT button as well. two finger tapping - right button click I think that this could be very simple and effective way. (We can possibly take this to extend and use 3 finger tap for middle button, but I'm not sure about it...)

Written by robertjlee the 30 Oct 09 at 22:12.

The two-finger scrolling feature is good, but when turned on, horizontal and vertical scrolling with the edge of the touchpad stops working. It should be possible to use either option with the same settings.

The two-finger scrolling feature is good, but when turned on, horizontal and vertical scrolling with the edge of the touchpad stops working. It should be possible to use either option with the same settings.

Written by Penguin Guy the 4 Nov 09 at 19:07.

Start moving towards the 10/GUI idea, perhaps create a new Ubuntu version that is designed with touchpads in mind (see concept video). The new distribution should still have basic support mice, but should work on simplifying the desktop using multi-touch technology at the same time.

10/GUI
Concept Video

Start moving towards the 10/GUI idea, perhaps create a new Ubuntu version that is designed with touchpads in mind (see concept video). The new distribution should still have basic support mice, but should work on simplifying the desktop using multi-touch technology at the same time. <a href="http://10gui.com/">10/GUI</a> <a href="http://10gui.com/video/">Concept Video</a>

Written by jman6495 the 20 Oct 09 at 09:31.

Not everyone wants open source software looking like the windows alternative, but i think it's important for OpenOffice!
Look at how many downloads the Internet Explorer 6 themes for Firefox there are, or how many downloads the XP theme for Ubuntu have!

So in this case... I think that we must change OpenOffice to evolve.

Not everyone wants open source software looking like the windows alternative, but i think it's important for OpenOffice! Look at how many downloads the Internet Explorer 6 themes for Firefox there are, or how many downloads the XP theme for Ubuntu have! So in this case... I think that we must change OpenOffice to evolve.

Written by bt90 the 20 Oct 09 at 20:35.

Keep it simple but independent!

Keep it simple but independent!

Written by chuse the 27 Oct 09 at 17:10.

Solution #2 is ok, but doesn't solve the "simplifying problem", if it exists. Is possible to adopt iPod phylosophy, just 3 clicks to get everywhere in the program, so if there's some option beyond the third click, we take it back to

Solution #2 is ok, but doesn't solve the "simplifying problem", if it exists. Is possible to adopt iPod phylosophy, just 3 clicks to get everywhere in the program, so if there's some option beyond the third click, we take it back to <=3.

Written by robertjlee the 30 Oct 09 at 22:03.

Go-oo is a fork of OpenOffice.org which is more receptive of patches.

From the description (http://www.go-oo.org/), “Go-oo's user interface is more familiar, with lots of small pieces of polish”

Go-oo is a fork of OpenOffice.org which is more receptive of patches. From the description (http://www.go-oo.org/), “Go-oo's user interface is more familiar, with lots of small pieces of polish”

Written by Jon Monreal the 31 Oct 09 at 14:04.

OpenOffice.org can stand on its own. However, there is definitely merit in making it easier for users to transition to their new Office Suite, whether they are coming from Windows with a package like MS Office or are coming from the Mac with iWork.

For this reason, perhaps a "beginner mode" with a different template could be added. This template SHOULD NOT be designed to look like Microsoft Word but instead should bring the common functions to the forefront and help new users learn where those functions are normally located, so that they can easily transition to the original interface when they are ready.

Said interface should also include common Office Suite formats outside of the normal drop-box in the save dialog, so that those coming from other suites can save in said other formats for compatibility reasons, although open document should remain the default.

The programs could be (keep in mind, this is just a preliminary idea) launched from a separate subfolder, that could easily be hidden by experienced users.

While this plan might add a little bit of overhead to a default installation, it could also serve to attract many users to Linux that get "too confused" by OpenOffice.org and give up before they have even really tried.

As a Ubuntu advocate, I have seen this before, and I personally believe that making whatever Office Suite Ubuntu should include at any given time more friendly to beginners is one of the most important things we can do, considering the fact that word processing is one of the most common activites that people do on a computer.

OpenOffice.org can stand on its own. However, there is definitely merit in making it easier for users to transition to their new Office Suite, whether they are coming from Windows with a package like MS Office or are coming from the Mac with iWork. For this reason, perhaps a "beginner mode" with a different template could be added. This template SHOULD NOT be designed to look like Microsoft Word but instead should bring the common functions to the forefront and help new users learn where those functions are normally located, so that they can easily transition to the original interface when they are ready. Said interface should also include common Office Suite formats outside of the normal drop-box in the save dialog, so that those coming from other suites can save in said other formats for compatibility reasons, although open document should remain the default. The programs could be (keep in mind, this is just a preliminary idea) launched from a separate subfolder, that could easily be hidden by experienced users. While this plan might add a little bit of overhead to a default installation, it could also serve to attract many users to Linux that get "too confused" by OpenOffice.org and give up before they have even really tried. As a Ubuntu advocate, I have seen this before, and I personally believe that making whatever Office Suite Ubuntu should include at any given time more friendly to beginners is one of the most important things we can do, considering the fact that word processing is one of the most common activites that people do on a computer. If this gets enough attentaion, I shall work on a mockup.

Written by argh0 the 5 Nov 09 at 16:52.

Why not create a new suite, trying to be innovative, implementing concepts and ideas different to the Microsoft ones, and having always in mind ergonomy and simplicity ?

For example, I'd like to see a further implementation of the "what you see is what you mean" concept of LyX. Don't care about layout in a first time, just write down, structure and work. I don't even want to see different pages on my screen. But I don't want either to see ugly tags or wiki code that makes reading a pain. And then do a beautiful layout. That's the concept of LyX for text editing, but can it be generalised, for example, for presentations ?

Like, you write down text elements that will be on your slides, choose medias, images, design relationships between elements, and then perhaps let the program generate (or assist you generating) real and beautiful slides for you... Or like, you draw with your mouse the frames and arrows where those elements will take place, and a form recognition script transforms them in real frames and arrows... Ok, it's blurry.

Other ideas : when draft formulations/sentences are erased, keep them besides the document, invisible but at hand, as it used to be when you "crossed" something in your handwritten draft. Sometimes I write whole paragraphs and then I decide that they don't deserve to be in the final version, but it can be useful to recycle a sentence, or something like that... Well, be closer to the natural creative process, with errors, drafts, combinations, reformulations, go and returns, etc... Also make a non stop saving, as "drafts" in Gmail, and no need to create a document for it starting to be saved.

Why not create a new suite, trying to be innovative, implementing concepts and ideas different to the Microsoft ones, and having always in mind ergonomy and simplicity ? For example, I'd like to see a further implementation of the "what you see is what you mean" concept of LyX. Don't care about layout in a first time, just write down, structure and work. I don't even want to see different pages on my screen. But I don't want either to see ugly tags or wiki code that makes reading a pain. And then do a beautiful layout. That's the concept of LyX for text editing, but can it be generalised, for example, for presentations ? Like, you write down text elements that will be on your slides, choose medias, images, design relationships between elements, and then perhaps let the program generate (or assist you generating) real and beautiful slides for you... Or like, you draw with your mouse the frames and arrows where those elements will take place, and a form recognition script transforms them in real frames and arrows... Ok, it's blurry. Other ideas : when draft formulations/sentences are erased, keep them besides the document, invisible but at hand, as it used to be when you "crossed" something in your handwritten draft. Sometimes I write whole paragraphs and then I decide that they don't deserve to be in the final version, but it can be useful to recycle a sentence, or something like that... Well, be closer to the natural creative process, with errors, drafts, combinations, reformulations, go and returns, etc... Also make a non stop saving, as "drafts" in Gmail, and no need to create a document for it starting to be saved. Because cloning MS Office innovations and ergonomy is not a good idea. It is too much "copying" : in this case I prefer the original to the copy. And in this case Ooo will always be "late". But I'm not sure either trying to make Ooo better would work. Let's face it : OpenOffice is bad. It is terribly unintuitive, it is slow, it is heavy, sometimes it freezes or bugs. It is ugly and makes ugly things (drawings for example). I loose time using OpenOffice. And I hate loosing time trying to make something with a software that "should be easy". Once I tried MS Office, last version. And I had to admit it is terribly better, even used to Ooo I did easily what I wanted. I'm not a developper, but I'm not sure trying to make Ooo code evolve is the good way. [edited 6 november 09 : put ideas before critics of Ooo)

Written by xeniac the 6 Nov 09 at 10:52.

Changing the overall beahaviour of OpenOffice is something Sun and Novell can do. Canonical and Ubunutu have limited resources and the "non-openess" of Suns OpenOffice development makes ist really hard to change non-trivial parts, like the interface.

But Ubuntu-Go-Oo comes with no Templates, and you can spend hours to create a professional looking Page Layout. We could create a small bundle of good and professional Fonts, Templates and Cliparts preinstalled per default to make these things easier.

Changing the overall beahaviour of OpenOffice is something Sun and Novell can do. Canonical and Ubunutu have limited resources and the "non-openess" of Suns OpenOffice development makes ist really hard to change non-trivial parts, like the interface. But Ubuntu-Go-Oo comes with no Templates, and you can spend hours to create a professional looking Page Layout. We could create a small bundle of good and professional Fonts, Templates and Cliparts preinstalled per default to make these things easier.

Written by ementos the 6 Nov 09 at 15:26.

When I see OpenOffice on ubuntu I think the icons are so big!
On OpenOffice on windows or on KDE icons are smaller and i think that why they are nicer! Gnome OOO should be nice too ;)

When I see OpenOffice on ubuntu I think the icons are so big! On OpenOffice on windows or on KDE icons are smaller and i think that why they are nicer! Gnome OOO should be nice too ;)

Written by Mirek2 the 7 Nov 09 at 19:38.

If you have ideas or comments on improving OOo, go ahead and add your voice to the project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page .
The team is working on a new UI, complete with a new look: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance
There's been a lot of thinking and prototyping and arguing about the direction it will go -- and I think, in its current copycat state, it will definitely remain very controversial -- but the UI direction isn't sealed and you definitely have a voice in which way it will go.
And if your ideas remain ignored, then go ahead and try your luck here.

If you have ideas or comments on improving OOo, go ahead and add your voice to the project: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Main_Page . The team is working on a new UI, complete with a new look: http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Renaissance There's been a lot of thinking and prototyping and arguing about the direction it will go -- and I think, in its current copycat state, it will definitely remain very controversial -- but the UI direction isn't sealed and you definitely have a voice in which way it will go. And if your ideas remain ignored, then go ahead and try your luck here.