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Speedboy
wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 20:51
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Yeah that would be a good idea! An option to have a default install with the programs that are normally installed on Ubuntu and an option the make a custom install. Where you can see the default installed programs and being able to chose which programs you want to install or dont want to install.
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joaz
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 00:00
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I would love to have a simple "which desktop environment would you like to install" switch on the graphical installer which downloads the desired version(s) if not on cd.
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I think that this option, or the ability to do it over the network would be great.
I tend to use the same install media for a few weeks, or even months, and thus have to fetch all the packages over the network to update them anyway.
Plus, this means that "Ubuntu" can install KDE just as easy as the crapfest that is Gnome.
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cjlyth
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 06:29
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yeah i normally install the server version then install kubuntu-desktop over the network =(
I would love to just pick the desktop during install... maybe just after i choose to create my home partition ;)
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I think a good addition to this would be the ability to switch desktops on the live DVD. When you put in the DVD it would boot into Gnome and then offer the ability to switch to KDE etc.
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Installation must follow KISS
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Isibix
wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 23:15
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Customizable installation
Like Speedboy has said. We must have the choice. If you do not want to spend time with this, you can click default.
Other ideas:
BASIC MODE
I. Why are you installing Ubuntu?
a. Student usage
b. Gamer usage
c. Network admin usage
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EXPERT MODE
I. The softwares that we want to be installed
a. Choice by theme
b. A lot of informations
- Pictures, Videos, comments, performance...
- What about the size of the informations?
- One solution with all the informations store on an internet site that can also become THE Reference for the software that Ubuntu users recommend.
- One solution with few informations (like Slackware?) for the installations that do not have the network card recognize during the boot of the live CD.
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II. The Services that we want by default
a. WIFI, Bluetooth, Fax...
b. When unchecked, we can have some informations about the usage of RAM that we save and others
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What do you think about these ideas?
Ciao...
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Mandriva had a custom install since 9.1 at least : KDE or Gnome, categorized packages (software development, games, Office...). It also included windows font import I think.
It should be easy to get the same features.
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jespdj
wrote on the 7 Mar 08 at 18:01
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There are two separate ideas, and I like #1, but I do not like #2.
#1: I would like to be able to select which packages do and do not get installed during the installation.
#2: It would not be a good idea if Ubuntu came on one DVD with every edition. I only want to use one of the desktop environments, so I don't want to download a whole DVD of which I'm going to use only 20%. Ok, it would be nice if there is a DVD available with everything, but there should also remain separate CDs available with the different editions.
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As someone who played with linux distributions for a number of years before taking the plunge with Ubuntu, this is a bad idea.
(My background: I've used computers since the early 80s, have a degree in CompSci, and experience with every version of MSDOS/MSWindows from DOS 3.31b->WinXP.)
You wouldn't believe the fear I had in choosing between desktop environments when installing other versions of Linux. What is Gnome/KDE/etc? Is my choice now something that I can change easily later on? Which is easier for me to get used to?
If something like this is created, it should all be under an "advanced installation options" button, with the default to install just like the CD version of Ubuntu.
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Ok, read all the comments:
My take on this to solve the problem:
1. Offer a choice of Desktop environments when installing (or booting up the live CD/DVD)
2. Considering that Ubuntu is KISS and should not confuse the user, offer the choice of: 1. install Standard Desktop environement and offer alternative choice (and then if the User request this, show KDE (Kubuntu) XFE etc...
3. Make sure the User can see a description what the alternative environment looks like and what it is used for, the speciality (XFE for low resource systems)
4. "KDE, a Desktop inspired by Windows", mention that it is closer to windows and might appeal to Windows users more, since the start menu is in the same location than windows and the control panel is centralized as in windows.
5. "Gnome, a simpler more advanced desktop, a different take than windows", say that it is potentially easier and more organized than Windows.
Only offer the choice to choose the Desktop environment when the User asks for a choice, otherwise just install Ubuntu (Gnome). You are right, newbie Users get pretty scared when confronted by a this or that choice for two things they don't know what they are for and never had the choice in.
Unifying all the Ubuntu variants safes so much .iso image space and maintenance by the project teams.
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tgstte2
wrote on the 17 Mar 08 at 03:00
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This is already implemented.
The selection is done before the installation.
If you want Gnome -get the Ubuntu.
If you want KDE - get the Kubuntu
If you want XFCE - get the Xubuntu.
How complicated is that?
And then after installation, you want something else, then just install whatever you want.
It takes about 45 mins to download a CD at 300kBytes/sec line. JUst imagine that for a DVD? Ubuntu is so popular because of the single CD install which the big distros are now now imitating.
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jelly1
wrote on the 17 Mar 08 at 11:25
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It would be nice if you could choose wich programs you would like to install by defualt, window managers aren't interesting Ubuntu -> Gnome. It would like to see a sort of expert mode where u can select programs you would like to install
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dino99
wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 13:21
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Very good idea but, remind that all desktop / laptop haven't dvd reader, so cd have to be one of choice.
Another wish: why so big distro on cd / dvd ? most people can easily download with adsl / cable everything so a simple mini installer is needed.
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Accepted Idea #6828: Remove Kubuntu (and Xubuntu)!! This is not a ducplicate!!
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Would it have to be called "xubuntu" and " kubuntu" or should it simply be "ubuntu" with customizable desktop manager?
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a great idea i said but just with ubuntu and Xfce, i think the mayority wont like kubuntu.
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@slsolaris:
What ever would give you that idea?
To the contrary, I think that *many*, if not *most*, would not only like, but would *prefer* Kubuntu.
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The casper filesystems can be loaded seperately onto one DVD (extract the initrd with cpio and edit the init scripts to point to the right directory.) This wouldn't allow for installing multiple DEs at once, however.
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cancuen
wrote on the 12 Oct 08 at 06:37
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Ubuntu primary goal is to put all in one CD, but for some (including me) it gets short when software means. We cannot have all software in one DVD, is too much (Old friend Debian uses 5). [U|Ku|Xu|Edu]buntu distros varies *mostly* in their desktop enviroment (except for extra packages in edubuntu, well...), and will be a great option to have a DVD with a better instalation with guide, customization, preprogrammed customization (good for schools and large companies, including users creation) and desktop enviroment choosing, plus most downoladed packages (with dependencies) until the DVD is full. If this is being done and create one all DVD ubuntu pakage, would be great to split into CDs the installation for those that does not have the capacity to read dvd (mainly schools).
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cancuen
wrote on the 12 Oct 08 at 07:04
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Just reading, this idea is actually two ideas. A customizable installation, and DVD with bundled packages. I've seen a minimal desktop idea (1653), but will be with customizable install, but not with the DVD idea.
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xeriouxi
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 10:56
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I like the idea of a customizable installation. I use Kubuntu at the moment and although I have nothing against the Gnome environment or GTK, it would be nice to be able to have an option to have just KDE applications. Firefox, for example (until it's Qt port comes out) looks horrible in KDE. It would save space, too, by not having to have the GTK libraries installed. Ubuntu to my knowledge doesn't have any KDE apps installed by default, so why should Kubuntu? =)
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xeriouxi
wrote on the 20 Oct 08 at 10:57
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In addition to that last point I made, I meant why should Kubuntu need to have GTK apps... not why should Kubuntu have KDE apps! XD
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Also, make the DVD containing both 32- and 64-bits versions of the OS !
And a choice for choosing which drivers you want (you have an Asus motherboard, you don't need drivers made especially for Asrock ones. Why would you bother to have drivers for PCI-E if your computer is fifty years old ? and so on).
Put also largely-used librarie (like Qt or GTK) on the disk, but compressed (you will, a day or another, find a soft you need which needs one of those), because both aren't used everyday, and uncompress them when a package need them, and recompress them when no more package need them.
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I apologize if I'm just regurgitating someone else's comment, but I think that it would be valuable to have the *Alternate*, LiveCD, and the other *ubuntu projects on one bootable media.
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Two people have already noted that this idea has two strands, but there are actually three... I support #1 and 2. If #2 passes, I also support #3.
1. Should a fifth flavor be introduced which is a combination of the others? This sounds like a good idea to me, and I think it only becomes controversial when #2 is *in*completely mixed in.
2. Should the user have options on the webpage which determine what data are downloaded and burned? This is the idea which could potentially result in the unification of the flavors under one name. However, the four names would probably survive as presets.
3. Should the installer offer options of which software to install? Given #2, this would probably be optional and not default. I can see this being very useful for Ubuntu evangelists; just use a single CD for everyone, whatever they want.
Now for my own question: Should we make new ideas for two of the above? If so, which two?
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squiddy
wrote on the 20 Feb 10 at 07:49
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would be nice if this idea is implemented soon
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cheesehead
(Brainstorm admin)
wrote on the 25 Sep 11 at 01:48
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If a few community members want to come together and create this project, it will be welcome.
But the current Ubuntu distros will remain as they are.
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