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@Lachu
I don't know if they know about Galaxium Messenger, but everybody can change it's mind. They can adopt Galaxium instead of Empathy beginning now or in future. Take a look in the Galaxium FAQ and see why they think Galaxium can be better than Pidgin and Empathy (In a developer/user way of think)
@ulilicht
ICQ will be supported. Please, read the description. And of course that to implement a new default software take time. And i'm not asking to implement Galaxium right now in 9.04, just implement it in sometime, now or in future.
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Please people, test the software, see it's FAQ and Group conversations to see what the developers think, and the advantages of adopt and improve Galaxium.
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@Lachu
Just to note: I'm a Jabber user too. And i only use Jabber. So yeah, i used Gajim, Gain (And now Pidgin), Jabbim and so many others. Still, Galaxium are very nice for Jabber even in it's middle development stage (The Jabber Protocol).
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@coder543
I understand what you mean, but there are already a request on Launchpad (To add Galaxium to the repos).
And this idea are not meant to implement right now, can be now or in future. Since implementation take long time. And i'm not proposing this idea out of nowhere, take a look into the Galaxium FAQ and user Group to see they way of think and why they think Galaxium can be better developed and better to implement new features than Pidgin or Empathy. (They point of view)
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Warbo
wrote on the 24 Jan 09 at 17:22
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In my opinion Empathy is definetly the way forward, since it's not a messenger, it is a set of GTK widgets. There is a messenger built out of those widgets, alsa called Empathy, but they are also used in other programs like Abiword.
Having a messenger program makes Ubuntu on par with other operating systems, but which one to use is open to opinion. However, having messaging embedded throughout the OS is an area where Ubuntu can overtake other systems, and as far as I can tell, Empathy is the best way to do it.
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@Warbo
I agree with you in parts Warbo. That's a nice concept yes, but Empathy is not feature-rich. It is really simple, and do not attend to most users that want/need a robust use of video conferencing, audio chat, MSN specific stuff, Jabber specific stuff and other features.
If Empathy improves and become robust and complete as a IM too, i too think it is the best way. But Galaxium are actually, in my opinion, better prepared both to serve and to be improved as a complete IM solution.
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borsook
wrote on the 24 Jan 09 at 19:07
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In the future when it supports more protocols - perhaps, atm we should stick to pidgin.
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Warbo
wrote on the 25 Jan 09 at 22:33
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I don't think it's fair to compare Galaxium-in-the-future to Empathy-at-the-moment ;)
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@Warbo
Why?
@AndrewLuecke
Well, it can be robust? I was not talking about only plugins, but about development. I like Empathy, in truth, i myself, like to use Gajim or Jabbim not Empathy, nor Pidgin nor Galaxium. When i proposed the idea, i thought that people would like to see a nice IM on Ubuntu, with video support and good general features, and beautiful too, a robust IM. And saw that Galaxium could provide that. But looks like Ubuntu folk don't like that at all. Cause i ever read about people complaining how Gain/Pidgin is incomplete, but looks like people really like that simple application. Well, i just wanted to help. No problem continue with Pidgin from my part, but would be nice if we had a robust IM application on Ubuntu that don't loose in any aspect for proprietary/other OSs alternatives.
"Also, Solution 6 should be deleted.. How can people possibly vote for something, when it may never be ready? And how do you define "fully developed"?"
Well they deleted, as you wished. But i don't quite understand why "simply provide Galaxium as an alternative" continue, since in the description was clear the a Ubuntu Packaging was already requested, my idea had other focus, i think it's not fair with me. But well,looks like was a bad idea, no one want to change Pidgin for a possible better one.
"fully developed", i meant: With all the first stable release Roadmap complete, with all promised basic robust features complete and done. But i didn't made myself clear, sorry.
My first very bad idea. Maybe i should leave Ubuntu Brainstorm? I'm very frustrated and disappointed right now, oh well, i will look if my help and ideas are appreciated somewhere else...
Maybe it's not a big deal at all... i'm not the first one to have a bad and misunderstood idea, and i will not be the last...
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Well, thanks everybody that thought it was a good idea and voted +1, but looks like it is was very bad idea. People don't want to change, so, be it. I still think it's a very good idea.
See ya all.
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Warbo
wrote on the 29 Jan 09 at 02:48
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kernel_script: It's not a fair comparison because Empathy is still being worked on. Comparing current Galaxium to current Empathy is acceptable, comparing future Galaxium to future Empathy is a bit less acceptable (since proposed features are just promises, which may be broken), but comparing the possible future of one to the current state of the other is completely biased. You're allowing the Galaxium developers to make promises, but not the Empathy developers (who have actually quite a few).
I would also say that the simpler the IM program is, the better (ideally I don't think Ubuntu should use an IM program at all, this functionality should unobtrusively be part of using Ubuntu, without needing a specific application to manage it).
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@Warbo/Everybody
Yeah, you're right, i agree. Was a bad idea.
If is possible to delete a idea, Admins have my permission to delete that one.
Sorry for the trouble, i learned one more lesson today: No rush to post something you barely know about.
Empathy looks very good, it spreads towards the entire system, a innovative concept, should be done. And the other idea floating around here on UB about use vino and other solutions proposes for video and audio conferences for looks promising.
I'm good with my ol'good Gajim, and experimenting with Jabbim again :] Also trying out more Galaxium :]
Sorry for the trouble. See ya all.
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Forget to say properly: Sorry everybody. I learn from my mistakes.
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Warbo
wrote on the 18 Feb 09 at 18:17
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kernel_script: I hope this idea isn't deleted! The entire point of Brainstorm is to post every idea that you have. The only things which should be deleted are flames and spam.
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Empathy is the default IM client in Ubuntu.
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