Idea
#1653: Just the desktop, please! Offer an ubuntu-desktop-minimal package!
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Written by qaaq the 29 Feb 08 at 18:25.
Category: System.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
Whenever I install a new Ubuntu desktop at work, I find myself removing a bundle of applications not mandated by our IT policy. This is annoying, and I don't do it enough to develop a custom solution.
Why not offer an ubuntu-desktop-minimal that depends on nothing but X and GNOME itself, along with any other 'core' desktop infrastructure?
Ubuntu's standard application bundle could go in an 'ubuntu-desktop-applications' package which would depend on 'ubuntu-desktop-minimal'. 'ubuntu-desktop' would then depend on 'ubuntu-desktop-minimal' and 'ubuntu-desktop-applications'.
This could of course be done with Kubuntu as well.
Another advantage would be that upgrades would be better handled - removing OpenOffice wouldn't suddenly opt-me out of the main Ubuntu desktop package.
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qaaq wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 22:45
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This could also help with installation time. No more browsers, office suites etc. to download before jumping into your new system.
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ketilwaa wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 16:29
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Just a tip for the OP. You know that Synaptic can save and load the package state to/from a text file? Very nice if you have similar setups. (AFAIK loading this file on a computer doesn't uninstall anything, it just adds the missing stuff to the existing system)
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probono wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 18:24
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And offer live CD images of it! :-)
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gabtrat wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 20:00
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Perhaps on install Ubuntu could offer a choice of options for what programs are installed.
For example: Lite, Home Desktop, Office, Media Center, Gamer ed., etc.
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nvivo wrote on the 4 Mar 08 at 18:12
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Ubuntu could learn some stuff from SUSE on this aspect. SUSE has very polished Gnome and KDE setups, and allows you to select what you want to install in a simple way from the setup.
This shoudn't be hard to do with a DVD distribution, or even a minimal CD that downloads everything on the fly.
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arbulus wrote on the 25 Mar 08 at 18:21
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+1 for this.
If nothing else, just make it so all of the default apps do not depend on the "Ubuntu Desktop" meta-package. If I want to remove Evolution, Pidgin, Ekiga (none of which I use), I would have to uninstall the "ubuntu desktop" package, and I have no idea what sort of problems that would cause.
I would rather not be forced to have Evolution, for example, on my machine if I don't use it. It should be easier to remove these apps without causing major impact on the system.
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sf_007 wrote on the 16 Apr 08 at 13:55
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This would be a great thing... +1
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eapache wrote on the 27 Apr 08 at 20:31
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Partially implemented.
The package ubuntu-minimal includes everything you need to boot to a command-line. Then just "sudo apt-get install" whatever else you need (gnome, x, etc.)
As of Hardy, apps are recommended by ubuntu-desktop instead of depending on it.
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drinkypoo wrote on the 21 May 08 at 16:16
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@eapache maybe I'm just stupid, but it seems that even though evolution is only recommended by ubuntu-desktop, if I remove evolution, I still remove ubuntu-desktop.
This behavior is the opposite of the necessary default behavior. How do I get past it, and why is it happening by default?
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Harley wrote on the 22 Jun 08 at 21:08
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Adding to eapeache and technosaurus posts:
Installing with the minimal cds will leave you with a base(command line) system, allowing you to build up your system how you would like. I would like to suggest installing gnome-core(or kde-core) as these are the minimal you need to run these desktop enviroments. Then you can worry about what you need to add as opposed to "how do I remove these apps without removing the entire desktop".
I'm running Ubuntu base system with kde-core and I swear it's more solid and faster than kubuntu-desktop.
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Blueprint grumpy-groundhog:
Ubuntuforums.org thread #397763
