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neon
wrote on the 2 Nov 08 at 16:57
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EXT4 ONLY as an option, not as default.
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Emacs23
wrote on the 2 Nov 08 at 19:05
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neon, have you never installed Ubuntu? Don't you know how file system is chose?
// I'm very glad about it. Change my system and download (not home) partition fs type to it immediately after switch to Jaunty.
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neon
wrote on the 2 Nov 08 at 19:59
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@emacs23 Sorry? I've installed Ubuntu loads of times. I don't understand your question. By default, Ubuntu sets stuff up on an EXT3 filesystem, however you can change that. o_O
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Magnes
wrote on the 2 Nov 08 at 21:30
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Well, right know EXT4 should be by default and EXT3 as an option. Ability to change EXT3 partitions to EXT4 also should be there for those who upgrade or don't want to format their drives.
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Is that Kernel you typed in older than the one I'm using in 8.10?
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longlivethebestos,
Ubuntu 8.10 uses the 2.6.27 kernel.
The 2.6.28 kernel is under development and will have GEM (memory manager).
Kernel 2.6.29 will have kernel mode-switching.
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We should also have a long hard look a Plymouth--IMHO it would be much nicer than Usplash--The ability to go seamless from boot to GDM is very nice--
As for EXT4--it should be made available for everyone to test--it will be the defacto standard within the next couple of years & now that it has be labeled "stable" would be the perfect time to start testing to get a jump-start on the needs/requirements.
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Slug71
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 01:59
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+1 for that autocrosser.
Only just learned about Plymouth and seems to be getting very popular.
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Ext4 is quite ready and requires grub2 (or patches to grub1) grub2 is still under development and is nowhere near ready for use.Ext4 should possibley be available as an option.
Jaunty will probally use the .29 kernel so asking for the .28 kernel is out of the question.
OOo3 yes definetly.
LSB4 is no where near ready yet.
Firefox3.1, still in beta.If its ready in time reasonable time it will be in Jaunty.
A new theme, depends what Mark and the Art director come up with.
You do realise Alpha 1 will be released in less than 20 days, to request all of this for it is very unreasonable.If the software is ready (and stable) before the feature freeze it will all be in jaunty.
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neon
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 02:01
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for the alphas, maybe EXT4 could be default so we could report bugs, but for the release I'd be a little worried to have it.
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Slug71
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 02:18
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RussellGee
LSB 4.0 is due for release Nov.11
FF3.1 should be ready for Jaunty but probably towards the end and if included early then it gets better tested.
The .28 Kernel isnt even out yet so what makes you think it'll have .29? It'll only help pave the way to .29.
Ext4 needs Grub2 but its moving to slow which is why i think it needs to be brought on now.
FF3.1 and Grub2 now = Lots more testing, bug filing and bug fixing.
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Slug71
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 02:20
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neon,
Ext4 has been deemed 'stable' as of Oct 11. Bringing it in now will just polish it making it ready for release.
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wgrant
(Ubuntu developer)
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 06:35
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Have you considered that we don't delay features just to amuse ourselves, but because feature development takes time?
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Slug71,
I think jaunty will use the .29 as it would be out in good enough time to get into Jaunty.Just look at hardy to intrepid, it went from .24 (hardy) to .27 intrepid.If the kernel developers were planning on using .28 they would have a git repo set up by now.
The problem with grub2 isnt that it needs bugs fixed, its just still under the development of adding features to it.[1]
And do you have a source for LSB 4.0 being released on Nov.11, I looked around but all I could find is late 08.
Thanks
[1] http://grub.enbug.org/TodoList
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I like a lot of ideas here, although many of them are just a given.
I would also like to see a backport of OOo3 into Hardy and Intrepid. :)
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Slug71
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 13:54
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RussellGee,
I'm not saying i don't want 2.6.29 in the Final of JJ, i'd just like to have 2.6.28 in Alpha 1. Instead of going 2.6.27 to 2.6.28 and then 2.6.29, Just go from 2.6.28 to 2.6.29.
2.6.28 has a new memory feature and 2.6.29 has mode-setting so i figured bring them in one at a time and iron out any bugs that come along with the new features.
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paul21
wrote on the 3 Nov 08 at 18:58
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I agree with Ext4 as an option, not as default.
Besides that, is GRUB 2 ready for daily use?
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I hope to see 2.6.29 in Jaunty... Mostly because of its much better KMS.
I like the approach of kernel team in Ubuntu to get the early alpha of kernel 2 months before the release if we're sure it'll freeze before the release itself (which should be the case with 2.6.29 being released a month before Janty)
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EXT4 FOR SURE! A lot faster than ext3 :)
if GRUB2 is stable then go for it! out with the old in with the new
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shirish
wrote on the 6 Nov 08 at 05:49
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If GRUB2 is properly synced and merged throughout the cycle we may get there, but it would require the services of some dedicated developers.
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Slug71
wrote on the 9 Nov 08 at 02:53
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I'm all for FirstAidKit, sounds good.
How easy would it be to convert it to do the same for .deb packages?
If its gonna take a lot of time or something has to be built from scratch i don't see it making it to 9.04 but 9.10 would be possible.
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stoffel
wrote on the 9 Nov 08 at 09:28
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-1: detailed feature roadmaps are incompatible with time-based releases. If you want more stable software, improve the quality testing process.
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I also propose Python 3 to be included.
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borsook
wrote on the 10 Nov 08 at 21:14
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Personally I'd like to see RF4 or NSS instead of EXT4 (as the last one does not have transparent compression), but indeed it'd be a step in the right direction... +1
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edajai
wrote on the 16 Nov 08 at 09:35
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i wud really love ubuntu when dey implement delta package updating. The present system eats a lot of bandwidth while updating and is a real pain
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kestal
wrote on the 18 Nov 08 at 23:43
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+1 to all those. If the developers have the time of course :) It would be lovely to see this put into Jaunty. Especially Plymouth and Grub2, LSB 4.0 would be heavenly.
Isn't one of the main focuses of Jaunty to increase bootup and application speed?
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Slug71
wrote on the 21 Nov 08 at 02:11
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Yes Kestel, and also bug fixing.
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EXT4 as default would just make some users' setups die. And performance improvements? Next to none.
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sw3t
wrote on the 25 Nov 08 at 11:14
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We definitely need a new theme ...
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mybunche
wrote on the 25 Nov 08 at 16:04
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There will probably be a new theme.
Is Ext4 ready to be default yet?
Firefox 3.1 should be ready by then.
OO3 should be in.
As wgrant reminded us, all this takes time. And man-hours to develop. They will put as many features as they can in the time they have available but, there's no harm in aiming.
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DrHalan
wrote on the 4 Dec 08 at 18:26
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erm what is mode-setting?
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@wgrant:
That's too true. Your comment made me laugh. It's true, you developers don't just sit on your hands until just before the 9.04 release and get your butts in gear; you implement things as they come and integrate it as fast and as well as possible.
I think people are just excited about the developments in the Linux world and they'll always want the newest thing now now NOW!
You guys are doing an excellent job. Keep up to great work!
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Slug71
wrote on the 4 Jan 09 at 17:56
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The idea can be closed/deleted now since Alpha 1 is long gone.
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saivann
(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 2 Feb 09 at 06:45
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Sorry for "Deleting" the idea, which is a bit "rough" (I know) but this idea actually asks for many different things, which is definitively against idea posting guidelines. At the same time, as wgrant mentionned earlier, this does not depend on votes but on stability. Once a feature is ready to be included, it is included but not before it gets mature enough to be used by the huge ubuntu world ;-)
Thanks for your participation in brainstorm and don't hesitate to post other ideas (and keep an eye on new posting guidelines which are now more clear and complete).
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