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thk
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 11:13
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eclipse works fine with just a simple download and extract.
It's awesome that works even if you copy paste its folder to another pc. Only problem I have experienced is the java configuration - whether use gnu java or sun's. For this it is needed a gui tool that is ebedde to general all in one configuration / control tool.
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Works fine for me too. I think some functions are missing like "copy-paste" from nautilus, but other than that I have a fine Eclipse experience.
Of course, I don't even think about using the ubuntu version and just get it from the website. Maybe that is the problem.
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Would collaboration with the Java team be required to get the configuration options correct for having Eclipse 3.3 in the Ubuntu repositories?
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seth
wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 10:49
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after couple of month it worked for me too - there is need to be careful for 64-bit ubuntu users because of there is 2 versions of eclipse 32 and 64
so for 32 bit version of eclipse you need a 32 bit version of java ;)
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mohbana
wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 14:03
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I totally agree, in fact this is why i tend to use fedora more often. Quiet disappointing because I actually like Ubuntu more, especially the font configuration. Plus Ubuntu is still using Eclipse 3.2!
yum list "*eclipse*"
Installed Packages
eclipse-cdt.x86_64 1:4.0.1-3.fc8 installed
eclipse-changelog.x86_64 1:2.6.1-3.fc8 installed
eclipse-cvs-client.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-ecj.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-jdt.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-mylyn.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 installed
eclipse-mylyn-bugzilla.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 installed
eclipse-mylyn-ide.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 installed
eclipse-mylyn-java.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 installed
eclipse-pde.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-pde-runtime.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-phpeclipse.x86_64 1.1.8-16.fc7 installed
eclipse-platform.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-pydev.x86_64 1:1.3.12-1.fc8 installed
eclipse-rcp.x86_64 1:3.3.0-31.fc8 installed
eclipse-rpm-editor.x86_64 0.1.0-10.fc8 installed
eclipse-subclipse.x86_64 1.2.4-5.fc8 installed
icu4j-eclipse.x86_64 3.6.1-1jpp.3.fc8 installed
tomcat5-jasper-eclipse.x86_64 5.5.26-1jpp.2.fc8 installed
Available Packages
eclipse-cdt-sdk.x86_64 1:4.0.1-3.fc8 updates
eclipse-changelog-cdt.x86_64 1:2.5.1-2.fc8 fedora
eclipse-changelog-jdt.x86_64 1:2.5.1-2.fc8 fedora
eclipse-checkstyle.x86_64 4.0.1-9.fc8 fedora
eclipse-demos.noarch 0.0.1-2.fc8 fedora
eclipse-egit.x86_64 0.3.0-2.fc8 fedora
eclipse-emf.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-examples.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-sdk.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-sdo.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-sdo-sdk.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-standalone.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-xsd.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-emf-xsd-sdk.x86_64 2.2.2-1.fc7 fedora
eclipse-gef.x86_64 3.3.0-1.fc8 fedora
eclipse-gef-examples.x86_64 3.3.0-1.fc8 fedora
eclipse-gef-sdk.x86_64 3.3.0-1.fc8 fedora
eclipse-mylyn-pde.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 fedora
eclipse-mylyn-trac.x86_64 2.0.0-9.fc8 fedora
eclipse-quickrex.x86_64 3.5.0-5.fc8 fedora
eclipse-subclipse-book.x86_64 1.2.4-5.fc8 updates
maven2-plugin-eclipse.x86_64 2.0.4-10jpp.8.fc8 fedora
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stevec
wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 20:27
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I have a work machine and a home machine that I develop on. I'm trying to switch from PHPEclipse to PDT, unfortunately the latest version of PDT requires Eclipse 3.3. I managed to get it to work on my home machine with a hack I found on the Ubuntu forums, so it's not a huge problem, but it's still nagging and since I wound up having to go trough some trouble trying to get the hack to work on my home machine I'm a little reluctant to go messing with my work computer.
I suppose this is only high priority to the people who need it, but as a developer it would make my life easier if Eclipse was updated and higher on the priority list in general.
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c.sokun
wrote on the 5 Mar 08 at 12:15
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plz keep up with eclipse @less 3.3 if not 3.3.2 :)
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c.sokun
wrote on the 5 Mar 08 at 12:52
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Oh I think it a must cuz Hardy got Firefox 3 which eclipse 3.2 doesn't know :))
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Lee
wrote on the 5 Mar 08 at 20:39
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Couldn't agree more.
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ka2
wrote on the 6 Mar 08 at 07:24
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eclipse is big & slow.
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ka2: yeah, you're right. eclipse is pretty big and slow. it is however also useful for certain tasks and lots of companies use it. it's free software too, so there aren't any legal problems with offering it.
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every eclipse I've ever tried from the repos won't work with junit correctly. They all add the import for it and then never find the library. The syntax highlighting will be fun, and then you go to run a test and it dies with no explaination.
Honestly, it works so much better to just download from the eclipse website and just run that way. If there's not going to be a properly working version in the repos, why bother with packaging it?
(I have to use eclipse for class, and yest I agree it's somewhat bloated.)
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Eclipse 3.3 at least is a must, since annotations are a complete disaster in 3.3 with java 6!
Seeing as how it's free software I don't understand canonical's "refusal" to upgrade to it?
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correction, that must of course be 3.2 with java 6
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Why does Ubuntu need to have Eclipse packages??? I consider this as a waste of time, since you can install Eclipse very easy, by just downloading the zip, unzip it and launch Eclipse. You also have to install the plugins via the manager.. Of course this is a bit more comfortable. But also the version in the stable repository is outdated most of the time, so you better get it from eclipse.org.
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Make Ubuntu more like Fedora. No wait, I could just stick with Fedora and have what I want and not a desktop oriented towards noobs. There needs to be an easy way to tell Eclipse to use Sun Java ranther than GCJ Java. How can it be done?
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madman2k
wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 21:36
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Q: why does ubuntu need eclipse packages?
A: why does ubuntu need packages at all - lets keep everything updated by hand, like in windows...
Q: how to tell Eclipse to use Sun Java
A: sudo update-alternatives --config java
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msarro
wrote on the 25 Mar 08 at 01:50
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This has almost 550 vote ups, more than just about anything else on this place, and yet according to launchpad this isn't even supposed to make the hardy release? C'mon guys, 3.3 is a year old, and 3.4 will be in testing shortly after hardy. Some of us like to have a scripted install so we can get ubuntu installed, run our shell script, come back an hour or two later and have everything installed. Yes, it can be downloaded and run from a folder, but we can do that with everything. So if that's the retort people are going to keep kicking back at us why are we even bothering to include apt?
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Agree... eclipse 3.3 is needed to install PDT !!!
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The most recent Sun Java SDK should be included as a dependency and setup as the default JVM. Having to to do that manually is an annoying step most regular users would probably complain about.
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jhuni
wrote on the 19 May 08 at 02:11
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I couldn't agree with this one more. Eclipse is vital to developers of all sorts and it is open source. For example, EPIC which is an Eclipse plugin is the only decent Perl IDE and lots of Linux users also use Perl.
Java is obviously great but there is also the Aptana plugin which most Web Developers are going to use if there on Linux because most powerful alternatives are for Windows.
I think this is one of the most crucial issues.
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droetker
wrote on the 23 May 08 at 21:49
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Please, guys, make it available in the repos.
There are many NOT useful things in the repos - but an outdated Eclipse.
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tgape
wrote on the 4 Jun 08 at 16:43
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I'm not personally a fan of Eclipse - it's too big, last time I used it its Perl support was distinctly lacking (for the things *I* do - more typical usage worked just fine), and I have various other issues with it.
However, that's me. Many other people like it a lot; I have several coworkers who swear by it. Looking at the list of available IDEs does not show any that I feel are good overall candidates (partially because I am aware of none.) There are a number of IDEs I feel are much worse than Eclipse, and none that appear to be a decent replacement for it.
Putting the upgraded package into the repository and keeping it up to date shouldn't take a lot of effort. If it does, you're probably doing something wrong.
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Auzy
wrote on the 5 Jun 08 at 01:25
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Eclipse has gotten a lot better these days tgape. It still is massive, but its not at the point that it is so big that it makes a real dent on HDD space.
And yeah, gotta agree with the perl support, when I used that early eclipse 2, it did suck. Haven't tried it in eclipse 3 yet, but the things I have tried in eclipse 3 have been enormously better, and since it supports SVN really well, I can no longer use any other IDE really
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That and 3.3/3.4 has amazing support for PHP developers.
PHP Development Tools in Ubuntu is lacking, big time.
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Eclipse is the ONLY IDE where you can start it, open an empty c++ project and run it - and it works.
Tried that with many others (KDevelop, Monkey,Edyuk) - you have to customize them to spit out a SIMPLE program, at least for qt. (Monodevelop and lazarus worked too).
It's a shame I'd like to start programming in C++, but Eclipse is the only one I could make a simple "empty" GUI executable.
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dmuir
wrote on the 7 Jul 08 at 03:51
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I've just downgraded to 3.3 (PDT 1.1 is still way too flakey to use in 3.4). And I've been using a unzipped version since Edgy (since upgraded to Hardy). The only problem I had with using the zipped package from Eclipse was that it didn't work with gnu java (since found a lot of apps don't work with it), so I just changed the java link to point to sun's jvm. I'd really like to be able to install the latest version from apt though. Would make upgrading easier.
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r0g
wrote on the 12 Sep 08 at 00:38
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This really ought to be in there and well maintained. It may be big and clunky (and not even totally stable) but tools like this are a necessity when projects exceed a certain size, I don't care what you "I do all my coding in Vi and it's fine" people think. Once you get south of 10,000 lines of code it really helps.
Do we want developers to choose Ubuntu or not? I reckon Ubuntu will progress far faster if it makes it easer for developers to use. Besides, take a look at any of the repositories and you will find an unbelievable amount of shit that no-one is ever going to use.
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Auzy
wrote on the 12 Sep 08 at 00:57
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I'll also add that developers like tools that are cross platform too. thats a epic benefit of Eclipse
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This ticket has been open for a LONG time now and it doesn't seem as though much action is being taken on it. It has upwards of 900 votes, more than most other things. It would be good to see some action.
That said, action doesn't happen overnight... and if we are to see Eclipse 3.4 in Intrepid, the community is going to have to help too. Developers/admins: what can we do to help get Eclipse 3.4 into Intrepid?
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Auzy
wrote on the 22 Sep 08 at 01:19
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Its funny how the people who are expected to make ubuntu better, barely have any officially supported tools to improve it.
Apple puts 100% effort into supporting its developers, hence why it is quite popular with developers these days. Even Microsoft puts alot into helping developers. Other then the fact Apple as a company sucks, and recent moves, coding on OSX was very pleasant.
Ubuntu? Sorry, we only have CLI compilers, and we don't officially support Dtrace/systemtap any gui's for development, etc. Why would large development companies develop for an OS where there are no good officially supported tools?
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Yes, I am agree with the idea to develop a good supported tools like Visual Programming Language in Windows with a full support to the Database system, example : Visual Basic, Visual C, C#, Delphi.
I am New to Ubuntu, I am only need to develop a database program for my company and I need a fast development tools like Visual Programming to learn and develop my programs.
A Visual Language tools made a faster growing software in Windows because a new bie can learn to develop a software faster and don't have to learn the installation package and the package depedency like in Ubuntu and don't have to an experience programmer because many book / ebook, source code and programmer ( not have to an advanced programmer ) can help the learning process faster.
Just a New Bie 2 Cent ... Which is busy searching & googling to find a good and easy to learn Visual Programming in Gnome.
I am only need a Visual programming Language with a database connectivity with many good ebooks and source code to search / googling. Why It's so hard to find :(
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jdutil
wrote on the 7 Dec 08 at 21:27
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I agree that Eclipse needs better support in Ubuntu it is actually a reason I am considering leaving Ubuntu for other distros. I need to be able to use Eclipse Radrails at up to date versions but can't get them to work. Eclipse 3.4 is out and Ubuntu still hasn't updated to 3.3. Ubuntu should work on improving the system for developers too if they don't want to just lose users after they get used to the switch to linux.
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Eclipse bundle should be deprecated if they're not going to provide a current version. 3.2.2 is too old. Providing an outdated version as current leads users down unnecessarily painful paths.
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skipper
wrote on the 18 Oct 09 at 13:36
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eclipse 3.5.1-0ubuntu6 is now it the repository. It is up-to-date and recommended over the upstream version (which suffers from a bug).
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