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Idea #12548: install off-line, update off-line (download pacages.gz archive.ubuntu bla bla)

bug This idea is a duplicate of Idea #11461: Synaptic better offline update - include package lists -.
Written by novatocba the 26 Aug 08 at 00:06. Category: Others. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
Rationale
nota: ahora esta corregido....
note: this corrected now ...

la idea en si misma no es solo para ubuntu 8.10, si no también aplicable a las demás versiones (6.06, 7.04, 7.10 y 8.04), de hecho ya esta en práctica para estas otras.
que se pueda descargar un tar.gz con los índices de repositorios de actualizaciones y otro con los paquetes estables.
razones para que no sea una idea:
-existe: packages.ubuntu.com --- bad
-existe Aptooncd -- + - bad, need another machine
-existe la conexión adsl. del rabajo y demás -- around the world? not .. Cyber some use with Windows
-existe la creencia que todo el mundo tiene una conexión de lata velocidad o acceso a un red. --- jaja

razones para considerar:

- ya existen personas que usan esta forma.
- es más fácil tener todos los paquetes sin este mensaje: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable --- good bay Error...
- es aplicable a derivados Debian y demás (Mark does not want to standardize?)
- si bien ya esta comentados en foros, es posible para os paquetes estables pero permitiría actualizar de ves en cuando el sistema.
-ubuntu makes it accessible to everyone but does not have Internet (hace a ubuntu accesible a toda persona aunque no cuente con internet)

idea... ??????????

cada paquete por arquitectura no es de aproximadamente 30 megas. En mi caso personal, en la práctica, mantengo una web donde deje empaquetado los paquetes por arquitectura y número de versión:

cada versión-arquitectura (i386, amd64 o powerpc )tar.gz
-- hardy -- main
--- universe
----multiverse
-----restrictive
------sources
ejemplo:
**********************************
download ubuntu.com/instal-o-update-offline.html

file-intrepid-1386-update.tar.gz
tar ....
add --> synaptic


deb file///home/path/file****folder intrepid security

update

crear una lista y descargue las actualizaciones.
************************************************
Esto permite tener los paquetes que uno quiera e incluso actualizar sin necesidad de contar con internet.

una de las razones que me motiva a escribir esto, que desde ya aclaro que lo vengo pensando desde que me registre en brainstorm, es que me han consultado sobre fedora offline y demás, pero estos permiten la descarga de los cd's a veces, ubuntu no.,y es bueno saber que sirve, pero sería bueno que se considere como posibilidad para usuarios off-line de ubuntu.

pool estable: download 1 ves, no more...

pool: inestable... a este apunta la idea, de tener la posibilidad de bajar un tar.gz de ves en cuando serviría a mucha gente.



disculpen por mi ingles, es muy malo, uso google.

aquí dejo una web como referencia, la he mantenido hasta ahora, y me han consultado si para 8.10 dejare archivos, me gustaría si es posible, que para el 8.10 el paquete sea oficial de ubuntu.com/update?... aunque se que hay mucha gente que cree que todo el mundo tiene internet y de banda ancha y por ende, esta idea, sugerencia o simple comentario desubicado en un lugar que no correspondía, desde ya sea no aceptado ni considerado.

sorry for my English is very bad, use google.

I leave here a website for reference, I have had so far, and I have consulted if ceases to 8.10 files, I would like if possible to 8.10 for the package is official ubuntu.com / update? ... although there are many people who cree that everybody has Internet and banda ancha and hence this idea, suggestion or comment simply misplace in a place that did not match, since either not accepted or considered

Web references:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=799878

ar. geocities. com/ novatocba /doc /frame /sources.htm

traducido con google.
ar. geocities. com/novatocba/ doc/frame/ sources-eng.htm

ar. geocities.com/ novatocba /doc/frame/ update-offline.htm

note: the spaces are not to spam


"it all started by a personal need .."
"todo empezó por una necesidad personal"


Rodolfo César c. lauchacba (ubuntu-es.org)

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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #12548
Written by novatocba the 26 Aug 08 at 00:06.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #12548 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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ivarn wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 02:27
The English version:

note: this corrected now ...

The idea itself is not just for Ubuntu 8.10, if not also apply to other versions (6.06, 7.04, 7.10 and 8.04) in fact is already in practice for these others.
to be able to download a tar.gz rates and other repositories updates with stable packages.
for reasons other than an idea:
- exist: packages.ubuntu.com bad ---
- there Aptooncd - + - bad, need another machine
- there is a broadband connection. W ork and the others - around the world? not .. Cyber some use with Windows
- there is a belief that everyone has a connection speed of tin or access to a network. --- Jaja

reasons to consider:

-- There are already people who use this form.
-- It's easiest to have all packages without this message: Error: Dependency is not satisfied --- good bay error ...
-- Applies to Debian and other derivatives (Mark does not want to standardize?)
-- Although already commented on this forum, it is possible for you but stable packages would update you on when the system.
ubuntu-makes it accessible to everyone but does not have Internet (ubuntu makes it accessible to everyone but does not have Internet)

idea ... ??????????

Each package is not architecture by approximately 30 megs. In my personal case, in practice, I maintain a website where stop packing packages for architecture and version number.

cheesehead (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 13:11
Local user groups should be doing this; sharing resources and knowledge among members.

Seems like a user group leadership issue to identify demand, and to organize LAN/Network parties and CD/DVD-burning parties.

This is supposed to be a community, not a group of Canonical-is-all-powerful-and-will-do-it-for-me fanboys, after all.

fcsonline wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 13:52
Spanish Chaos Boy

1 - Does the structure of your idea can be worse? The only thing you get is that people ignore your idea.

2 - I don't discriminate your language but in an international forum is usually referred in English.

PS: I am Spanish
PD2: I use the translation services of Google too

Sorry,

novatocba wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 17:52
cheesehead wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 13:11

"not a group of Canonical-is-all-powerful-and-will-do-it-for-me" --- wtf.

apology, did not know that there are places in all groups even in places where none exist.

for me ..?, ok, I have broadband, the idea is for other people. But apparently your mentality is resigned to little chance. between all forms I think the most practical and makes it possible to use even in places where there is neither remnants of the groups you mention.

fcsonline wrote on the 26 Aug 08 at 13:52

I have seen many comments in Spanish, I understand your position.

I recognize the truth that is not understood. it is well

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people in general

this is not an idea based on begging, there are several ideas that raise the use of devices and others.
To consider the idea, I started with a personal reasons, so that in due course evaluate various possibilities.

As it appears that the ideas are crazy for something in 8.10, taking into consideration not vote because it assumes that everything crazy to be included in 8.10 will be good. Apparently, everything that serves or may become a useful, even in a general sense for multiple versions is negative.

thank you for your comments.

ivarn: thank you very much

cheesehead (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 28 Aug 08 at 00:35
The idea of offline updates has come up before, both here and in many forums.

I manually upgraded offline from 6.06 to 6.10, USB-sticking the packages across from a Windows machine because my Ubuntu box wasn't allowed on the network. It took a week...and yes, it sucked. I learned a lot from the process about dependencies! And I certainly understand the need described in this idea.

But, honestly, I haven't seen a lot of interest from developers (who usually have network access) to support this need beyond updated CDs every 6 months. For most common apps, that's pretty good support, after all.

So don't count on a change in Synaptic; look for a different path to get what you want.


novatotal wrote on the 31 Aug 08 at 00:35
it is a very good idea, and a shame that someone who commands both languages beats the op down, lots of people do not have internet at all or a very poor conection, sometimes even dialup!!
Ubuntu prides on bein human with humans does it not?
well if somebody has a slow conection or no conection at all he/she is still a human!!! vote yes
so our less lucky brothers and sisters can have, use and enjoy ubuntu!!!

cheesehead (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 1 Sep 08 at 14:06
Launchpad project for offline/dialup package support:

https://code.launchpad.net/keryx

joaquingo wrote on the 1 Sep 08 at 16:36
this is a great idea!!


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