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Easier Wine Access – Installation  
Written by Klau3 the 11 Feb 10 at 11:44. In development
When double clicking on an .exe-file in a newly installed Ubuntu system, the archive manager will show up with an error message.

There are two points:
- New users don't know that Wine exists.
- The current model breaks the work flow and gives no information on how to proceed.

The suggested infobox would give the average user the opportunity to install the selected Windows program easily using Wine, and inform him about how software is usually installed.

Developer comments
This is something I've already been working on for quite some time. ~Scott Ritchie
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Selected solution (#1): Double clicking an .exe-file -> Infobox
Written by Klau3 the 11 Feb 10 at 11:44.


Check if Wine is installed when not -> show infobox.
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Selected solution (#2): And do the same for other unsupported by defaults file formats.
Written by Ssdg the 12 Feb 10 at 06:47.
After all, exes or .foo are the same. You need some extra software to read them.
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Selected solution (#3): Add information that not all win32 programs are supported!
Written by la_serpe the 13 Feb 10 at 18:43.
There should be a warning because definitely not all Windows applications are supported. Users should avoid unpleasant surprises.
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Selected solution (#4): Improve the Archive Manager and system documentation
Written by dlithgow the 15 Feb 10 at 12:05.
Let's keep this simple, and reuse existing Ubuntu elements.

There are two issues here:

1. Archive Manager can't unpack exe files by default, but tries and doesn't offer a solution. This is solved by fixing bug# 148084 (https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/file-roller/+bug/148084) "totem-like/firefox-like plugin installer for file-roller"

2. Users from Windows expect to run an exe file. The best reaction to Ubuntu doing something unexpected, and the reaction we want to encourage, is for the user to look in the documentation. There needs to be a useful result when searching for "exe" in Yelp which explains why an exe doesn't run in Ubuntu and what users can do about that. (The System Documentation is the right place for Solution #3 to be implemented)

See the 8 comments or propose a solution (latest comment the 31 Mar 10 at 17:11) >>

Wine could import real Windows files from an original Win CD/DVD  
Written by XVIIarcano the 31 Aug 08 at 15:30. Won't implement
This might be a stroke of genius or an utter idiocy, you judge.

I seem to understand that the major shortcomings of wine are with the dlls because not all the libraries are emulated and not all are emulated seamlessly (no guilt whatsoever, I realize that the wine guys are doing their best).

So here is the idea.
When installing wine, or from the libraries configuration menu at a later time, there could be an "import original libraries" option, I choose it and I supply an original Windows cd/dvd that I have lying around (we probably all have a couple, even if we just use them as glass coasters).
Then wine runs trough the cd, borrows what it needs to run smooth with direcx and everything else and configures itself.
Final step, playing that damn brand new game or that damn cad application we need so desperately.

It would not exactly be the ideal solution to bug #1 but for somebody it would be way better than dual-booting.

Like it?

P.S. I do not even know if this would be completely legal, if not perhaps it could be implemented as a separate script.

Developer comments
This was frequently done around 5 years ago with Wine installations, but should be largely unhelpful now. Most of the Wine deficiencies are in libraries for which native DLLs aren't usable.
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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #12690
Written by XVIIarcano the 31 Aug 08 at 15:30.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #12690 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Suggest to install wine if a user wants to install a .exe file  
Written by icicle the 29 Dec 08 at 22:07. In development
Many users HAVE to use Windows-software (sadly).

I found that they just don't know about the existence of wine. I speak of users who even don't know that it is not possible to install Windows software directly in Ubuntu (without wine).

It would be helpful and easy for those users if they would see a message dialog, when they double-click an exe-file. This dialog could explain that they want to open a Windows program and that they could try this by using wine.

Then they should have the possibility to cancel or to install wine. After the installation the exe-file should be started with wine automatically.

UPDATE: In the dialog there should be a brief explanation that not all Windows-software will work in wine and that there might be a better linux alternative. Maybe also a link to the wine website.
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Selected solution (#1): Suggest to install wine if a user wants to install a .exe file
Written by icicle the 29 Dec 08 at 22:07.
It would be helpful and easy for those users if they would see a message dialog, when they double-click an exe-file. This dialog could explain that they want to open a Windows program and that they could try this by using wine.

Then they should have the possibility to cancel or to install wine. After the installation the exe-file should be started with wine automatically.

UPDATE: In the dialog there should be a brief explanation that not all Windows-software will work in wine and that there might be a better linux alternative. Maybe also a link to the wine website.
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Selected solution (#2): Suggest a program for a file
Written by znupi the 14 Jan 09 at 18:31.
I heard Fedora has this already implemented, I'm not sure.

This should be generalized, it shouldn't only be for .exe files (who's Windows, anyway? to think it can infest our systems like that!). When a user double clicks a file Ubuntu doesn't have a program to open with, it should ask the user if he/she wants Ubuntu to search for an application to use with that file. Then, Ubuntu searches the repositories for applications that can open that kind of file and present the user with a list of applications. User selects an application, installs it, opens the file!
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Selected solution (#4): Check the wine app database before offering to install
Written by cheesehead the 15 Jan 09 at 03:14.
Check to ensure that the application is likely to install and run before offering to install it.
Naturally, this assumes that the wineHQ database will be both accurate and machine-searchable.
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Selected solution (#5): Offer to install WINE at installation.
Written by mtod1 the 14 Feb 09 at 07:18.
Users installing Ubuntu should be asked if they will or, would like to use Windows based programs in Ubuntu during installation. Users select a checkbox yes or no and are provided with a list of currently supported WINE applications as of the current release and suggested Linux alternatives are provided.

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Selected solution (#6): Include Wine in Ubuntu (Pre-installed)
Written by mstar the 26 Apr 09 at 08:54.
Most people know about Wine but can't install because they don't have hi speed net or much time to install it. Ubuntu should provide Wine as it provides softwares like GParted, Firefox, GIMP, .....
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Selected solution (#7): automate the needed steps, and give the user an explanation
Written by pegasus0378 the 14 Apr 10 at 09:07.
After a doubleklick, check if wine is installed - if not and the user agrees install it.

After that set the executable bit and imeditaly run the exe with wine.

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