Contributor michaeljm20 on Live CD installer
partition gives little information
Written by garrowolf74 the 30 Jan 09 at 06:07.
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I have four partitions most of the time. One is a dual boot for windows, which is easy to identify, one is my home partition, and I have two linux partitions. The reason for this is that I will install a distro and see if I like it. If I don't then I haven't lost my working partition. If I like it I use it from now on and leave the old one there. The cycle repeats.
The problem is that half the time I forget which partition I am trying to replace.
Reduce the number of post-installation tasks
Written by deadowl the 15 Nov 08 at 00:55.
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What do I do post installation?
Post (fresh) install:
install networkmanager-vpnc
install some third-party things (I'm okay with this)
install packages that pose distribution probs (I'm okay with this)
configure clock->locations (pick locations)
configure vpnc (server, login credentials)
configure rhythmbox (enable DAAP, last.fm login credentials)
configure pidgin (login credentials)
configure ekiga (login credentials)
configure network locations (server, login credentials)
import music
import pictures
import documents
import old .evolution folder
import old .mozilla folder
troubleshoot my touchpad
troubleshoot my microphone
troubleshoot my webcam
The reason that this is a problem is that these are technically parts of the installation that the installation wizard doesn't recognize. So the actual idea is to recognize these steps as installation steps and to try to ease the process some more.
The rest of these ideas aren't part of this idea, but solutions pertaining to this idea, unless it wouldn't get marked as "not an idea" either way.
Possible Solutions:
1. (Installation-related) If someone might need software to use an application that's provided by default, at a baseline, install it by default (ex. VPN).
[....]
Restore Ubuntu itself to its original state
Written by plantboy1 the 19 Jan 09 at 02:08.
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Every so often I'm sure that some people (like me) will mess up their system a bit, not to the point where it won't boot, but enough that it has major problems that aren't necessarily [easily] fixable.
Solution #1:
Add a restore Ubuntu but preserve data option to installer
Add an option in the installer to restore the system, but ONLY the OS to its original condition while preserving user data (wherever that may be, /home or other) and giving the option to A: remove all software not installed during original installation, B: restore Ubuntu to its original state by re-installing any software/system files that are missing, or C: Do both A and B.
Add an option in the installer to restore the system, but ONLY the OS to its original condition while preserving user data (wherever that may be, /home or other) and giving the option to A: remove all software not installed during original installation, B: restore Ubuntu to its original state by re-installing any software/system files that are missing, or C: Do both A and B.
Solution #2:
Make /home partition default
When installing, have the default option as a separate partition for /home. Also have the installer detect the /home and ask if it should be used for the install. This will retain data by separating it from the OS.
When installing, have the default option as a separate partition for /home. Also have the installer detect the /home and ask if it should be used for the install. This will retain data by separating it from the OS.
Solution #3:
Explain the benefits of the separate home partition
Written by
lavinog the 12 May 09 at 17:53.
A separate home partition has the benefit of preserving home data on a clean install, but also has the disadvantage of limiting the size of the partition.
Explain to the user that the home partition offers the advantage for future installs, but would require the user to resize the partition manually if they need more space.
Other benefits:
fsck can check the home partition faster than one big partition
The whole home partition can be backed up as a partition image, and moved to other disks
The home partition can be mounted in windows on dual boot systems, without granting windows access to ubuntu's system files.
A separate home partition has the benefit of preserving home data on a clean install, but also has the disadvantage of limiting the size of the partition.
Explain to the user that the home partition offers the advantage for future installs, but would require the user to resize the partition manually if they need more space.
Other benefits:
fsck can check the home partition faster than one big partition
The whole home partition can be backed up as a partition image, and moved to other disks
The home partition can be mounted in windows on dual boot systems, without granting windows access to ubuntu's system files.
ubuntu-restricted-extras is essential for many users
Written by mankelin the 14 Jul 09 at 21:27.
Implemented
The ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage includes a JRE, Adobe Flash and various video/audio codecs, among other things. These components are not installed by default due to possible legal problems.
However, for many, if not most desktop users, these componentes are essential and thus they install this metapackage right after the Ubuntu installation, if they know about it. New users don't, and this is bad for the initial user experience. For the more experienced users, having to install it manually feels like a chore.
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Selected solution (#1):
Offer the user the choice to install the package
Written by
mankelin the 14 Jul 09 at 21:27.
Directly after installation, or after first boot, pop up a dialog asking the user whether he/she wants to install the package (in an appropriate way).
It should be worded so that a lay person can understand the benefits, e.g. something like:
"Do you want to install optional support for various audio/video formats and web plugins? Without installing this, you might have problems playing back audio or video files and certain web sites will not work correctly."
The dialog should offer simple "Yes" and "No" buttons. If the user chooses "Yes", the meta package and its dependencies should be downloaded and installed. If the user chooses "No", he should be reminded that he/she can later install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package with Synaptic, should he/she decide otherwise.
Directly after installation, or after first boot, pop up a dialog asking the user whether he/she wants to install the package (in an appropriate way).
It should be worded so that a lay person can understand the benefits, e.g. something like:
"Do you want to install optional support for various audio/video formats and web plugins? Without installing this, you might have problems playing back audio or video files and certain web sites will not work correctly."
The dialog should offer simple "Yes" and "No" buttons. If the user chooses "Yes", the meta package and its dependencies should be downloaded and installed. If the user chooses "No", he should be reminded that he/she can later install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras" package with Synaptic, should he/she decide otherwise.
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Selected solution (#2):
Add apturl to a "Start Here" icon on desktop
Written by
Clorox the 20 Jul 09 at 02:55.
Add a sentence and a link to "apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?refresh=yep" to Solution #2 of
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8074/.
The solution there is for introduction to Ubuntu by an icon on the desktop that loads a simple HTML window, with simple introductory things such as how to install packages.
Add a sentence and a link to "apt:ubuntu-restricted-extras?refresh=yep" to Solution #2 of http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8074/.
The solution there is for introduction to Ubuntu by an icon on the desktop that loads a simple HTML window, with simple introductory things such as how to install packages.
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Selected solution (#3):
Have it undercover, but ask to delete or keep it
Keep it in the /tmp directory, and when one opens an mp3 file or tries to view flash, ask if they want to keep it or delete it. If they answer yes, show them the legal stuff and if they agree to it, and install it in the directories for a regular installation. If they answer no, tell them what they will not have and how to install it later. Delete it from the /tmp directory if they answer that.
*TO AVOID LEGAL STUFF, IN THE INSTALLER MENU FOR LOCATION, IF THEY SAY THEY ARE IN A COUNTRY WHERE IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE IT, DON'T INSTALL IT IN THE /tmp directory!*
Keep it in the /tmp directory, and when one opens an mp3 file or tries to view flash, ask if they want to keep it or delete it. If they answer yes, show them the legal stuff and if they agree to it, and install it in the directories for a regular installation. If they answer no, tell them what they will not have and how to install it later. Delete it from the /tmp directory if they answer that.
*TO AVOID LEGAL STUFF, IN THE INSTALLER MENU FOR LOCATION, IF THEY SAY THEY ARE IN A COUNTRY WHERE IT IS ILLEGAL TO HAVE IT, DON'T INSTALL IT IN THE /tmp directory!*
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Selected solution (#4):
Integrate the option into the installation process
Written by
suit the 3 Aug 09 at 20:25.
This could just be implemented somewhere during installation as
[ ] Install stuff to be able to view flash content right away.
# (Of course rephrased by a more eloquent person!)
The download could start (if eth0 or others are found) during installation or afterwards. Alternatively an icon could show up as with the "restricted hardware drivers" after the first boot.
This could just be implemented somewhere during installation as
[ ] Install stuff to be able to view flash content right away.
# (Of course rephrased by a more eloquent person!)
The download could start (if eth0 or others are found) during installation or afterwards. Alternatively an icon could show up as with the "restricted hardware drivers" after the first boot.
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Selected solution (#5):
Integrate this with restricted drivers
Written by
cos the 4 Aug 09 at 15:00.
As in solution #1, but also suggest to install restricted drivers, if they are available. e.g. have checkboxes and descriptions of what can be installed.
As in solution #1, but also suggest to install restricted drivers, if they are available. e.g. have checkboxes and descriptions of what can be installed.
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Selected solution (#6):
Add a Codec Install wizard
This idea expands on Solution #2. Instead of simply having an apt-url link to install it, the link will run a program. This program will tell the user the standard legal precautions about it, and will link to a website where you may legally buy the Codecs if you live in the U.S. If the user agrees that they live in a location that's legal for them to be installed for free, it'll download/install the codecs and remove the icon from the desktop.
This idea expands on Solution #2. Instead of simply having an apt-url link to install it, the link will run a program. This program will tell the user the standard legal precautions about it, and will link to a website where you may legally buy the Codecs if you live in the U.S. If the user agrees that they live in a location that's legal for them to be installed for free, it'll download/install the codecs and remove the icon from the desktop.
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Selected solution (#7):
Modification of Solution 1: Have it downloaded
Directly after installation, or after first boot, pop up a dialog asking the user whether he/she wants to install the package (in an appropriate way).
It should be worded so that a lay person can understand the benefits.
The dialog should offer simple "Yes" and "No" buttons. If the user chooses "Yes", the meta package and its dependencies should be INSTALLED FROM THE SAME CD OR DOWNLOAD. Ihis this case there wont be a waste of time downloading all the files
Directly after installation, or after first boot, pop up a dialog asking the user whether he/she wants to install the package (in an appropriate way).
It should be worded so that a lay person can understand the benefits.
The dialog should offer simple "Yes" and "No" buttons. If the user chooses "Yes", the meta package and its dependencies should be INSTALLED FROM THE SAME CD OR DOWNLOAD. Ihis this case there wont be a waste of time downloading all the files
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Selected solution (#8):
Modification of Solution 1: Warn about the risks.
Written by
misiu_mp the 21 Aug 09 at 14:08.
Except for informing of the benefits the notification should warn about the drawbacks of using this package (legality, patents, closed source) and the benefits of supporting open standards.
Except for informing of the benefits the notification should warn about the drawbacks of using this package (legality, patents, closed source) and the benefits of supporting open standards.
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Selected solution (#9):
Automaticly download it when the user tries to read one of the formats if cover
For exemple, if I try to read an MP3 file, the system would ask me:
"You're trying to read a MPEG Audio Layer3 file, which is unreadable by Ubuntu by default for patent reasons.
Do you want to install the necessary codecs to read this, as well as support for the formats listed under:
+ *Shockwave Flash
*Java Runtime environment
*MPEG-4 Part 14
*etc...
But not only this, it should do that for every restricted formats, like DVDs!
People want to play DVDs on their computer! If a such system was aviable for those formats, that woul be a success!
"You just a DVD Video, which is unreadable by Ubuntu by default..."
For exemple, if I try to read an MP3 file, the system would ask me:
"You're trying to read a MPEG Audio Layer3 file, which is unreadable by Ubuntu by default for patent reasons.
Do you want to install the necessary codecs to read this, as well as support for the formats listed under:
+ *Shockwave Flash
*Java Runtime environment
*MPEG-4 Part 14
*etc...
But not only this, it should do that for every restricted formats, like DVDs!
People want to play DVDs on their computer! If a such system was aviable for those formats, that woul be a success!
"You just a DVD Video, which is unreadable by Ubuntu by default..."
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Selected solution (#10):
Also Offer to add the Medibuntu repository
Written by
cos the 16 Sep 09 at 11:20.
Medibuntu contains a bunch of restricted multimedia codecs, fonts, drivers etc that are not part of the main repo for licensing reasons. For me, its packages greatly improve support for playback of some formats including wmv and realvideo, and allow my webcam to work -- these are important things for typical desktop users coming from Windows, where these are taken for granted.
I believe it would be greatly beneficial for the majority of users to make this repo easily available, even if it is never merged with the main Ubuntu repos. If Ubuntu offers at any point to install restricted stuff automatically, it should also offer to add Medibuntu to Software Sources. That would save each new user a few hours of Googling and frustration.
For the long-term, perhaps it's more logical that all restricted extras packages be moved into Medibuntu to keep a cleaner separation of what is and isn't restricted. Of course, it doesn't have to be Medibuntu -- any new repo should do.
Medibuntu contains a bunch of restricted multimedia codecs, fonts, drivers etc that are not part of the main repo for licensing reasons. For me, its packages greatly improve support for playback of some formats including wmv and realvideo, and allow my webcam to work -- these are important things for typical desktop users coming from Windows, where these are taken for granted.
I believe it would be greatly beneficial for the majority of users to make this repo easily available, even if it is never merged with the main Ubuntu repos. If Ubuntu offers at any point to install restricted stuff automatically, it should also offer to add Medibuntu to Software Sources. That would save each new user a few hours of Googling and frustration.
For the long-term, perhaps it's more logical that all restricted extras packages be moved into Medibuntu to keep a cleaner separation of what is and isn't restricted. Of course, it doesn't have to be Medibuntu -- any new repo should do.
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Selected solution (#11):
solutions #1 and #9 but cut the popup box.
maybe others...
but cut this popup box business, this is one thing that infuriated me with windows.
I would think the system was ready for use, I'd go start doing something only for a popup box to take screen/keyboard focus.
having migrated from 6.06 to 9.04 on this system, I have to say having icons appear on the menu panel top of screen is more pleasing, to alert the user of information.
Many times you get that lovely message, Installing this codec may not be legal in your country.
surely by now we have enough loco teams to make a database answering this question and this question could be answered by your location settings and the database, as we all install stuff on the assumption its okay until its forcefully pointed out otherwise
maybe others...
but cut this popup box business, this is one thing that infuriated me with windows.
I would think the system was ready for use, I'd go start doing something only for a popup box to take screen/keyboard focus.
having migrated from 6.06 to 9.04 on this system, I have to say having icons appear on the menu panel top of screen is more pleasing, to alert the user of information.
Many times you get that lovely message, Installing this codec may not be legal in your country.
surely by now we have enough loco teams to make a database answering this question and this question could be answered by your location settings and the database, as we all install stuff on the assumption its okay until its forcefully pointed out otherwise
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Selected solution (#12):
Also inform users of Adobe Flash Player EULA legal problems
Written by
Lyfang the 21 Jun 11 at 05:39.
The Adobe Flash Player End User License Agreement prohibits reverse engineering and more. Therefore developers cannot develop a competing Flash player if they've accepted the Adobe Flash Player EULA.
See also
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashplugin-nonfree/+question/135400
Enhence the partionning tool of Ubuntu installation
Written by nandayo the 14 Apr 09 at 16:24.
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Well, let me frankly say that I find this partitioning tool really strange :
- What is the goal of the colors (green, orange...) used for different partitions exactly ? It does not correspond to nothing ! We should use color for a true information (see solution 1)
- Why by god the application propose by default to completely erase existing partitions, this is ridiculous ! The user can, by mistake, loose all his data and existing OS by this way ! (and then never go back to linux, you can be sure of that). i propose solution 2..
- Not really clear for new user what is / or /home and so on... solution 3.
Thanks folks.
Solution #1:
One color = one filesystem !
Written by
nandayo the 14 Apr 09 at 16:24.
This should be really more logical ! Ext3 filesystem into one color, swap into another color, NTFS into another one, and so on ! (as GParted do finaly !) This would be really more visual and a more intelligent use of colors. Of course, each partition must be clearly delimited, to avoid consecutive partitions of the same filesystem to be few visible.
Here is an (ugly :-p ) example I made to illustrate :
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56626046.png
(this is just an *ILLUSTRATION*, not a graphical proposition ! )
Maybe another suggestion : note by a symbol (a star for example) the partition containing an OS.
This should be really more logical ! Ext3 filesystem into one color, swap into another color, NTFS into another one, and so on ! (as GParted do finaly !) This would be really more visual and a more intelligent use of colors. Of course, each partition must be clearly delimited, to avoid consecutive partitions of the same filesystem to be few visible.
Here is an (ugly :-p ) example I made to illustrate :
http://img209.imageshack.us/my.php?image=56626046.png
(this is just an *ILLUSTRATION*, not a graphical proposition ! )
Maybe another suggestion : note by a symbol (a star for example) the partition containing an OS.
Solution #2:
Do not propose to erase existing OS by default !
Written by
nandayo the 14 Apr 09 at 16:27.
This probably made a lot of user to loose their previous OS and data ! I suggest a more intelligent partitioning, which keep alive existing OS *and* other existing data partitions.
This probably made a lot of user to loose their previous OS and data ! I suggest a more intelligent partitioning, which keep alive existing OS *and* other existing data partitions.
Solution #3:
Give some explanation about / and /home etc.
Written by
nandayo the 14 Apr 09 at 16:32.
Just some smart tooltip, or a "watizit ?", to let new users to understand what the partitioning tool is asking about mounting point.
Just some smart tooltip, or a "watizit ?", to let new users to understand what the partitioning tool is asking about mounting point.
Solution #4:
Use GParted
Written by
Clorox the 15 Apr 09 at 02:36.
Shouldn't be hard. It is much more advanced and should fit in the installer.
Shouldn't be hard. It is much more advanced and should fit in the installer.
Solution #6:
Make the colour bar the dominant tool
Written by
Kver the 19 Apr 09 at 06:02.
Make the colour bar a prominent tool instead of only a display.
- Use icons to help identify the partitions, such as a windows logo on detected windows installations, an Ubuntu logo for Ubuntu installs, and other icons for common types of partitions.
- Allow users to drag/stretch/squish partitions on the bar itself. Ie; squish a windows partition. Back or transparency could be used for empty space.
- Do NOT make it one colour/one filesystem type. If you have multiple partitions of the same type, it might appear as a single colour slab. Using alternating shades could correct this problem (dark/light/dark/light)
- Explain a partition on mouseover in a box underneath the bar.
Make the colour bar a prominent tool instead of only a display.
- Use icons to help identify the partitions, such as a windows logo on detected windows installations, an Ubuntu logo for Ubuntu installs, and other icons for common types of partitions.
- Allow users to drag/stretch/squish partitions on the bar itself. Ie; squish a windows partition. Back or transparency could be used for empty space.
- Do NOT make it one colour/one filesystem type. If you have multiple partitions of the same type, it might appear as a single colour slab. Using alternating shades could correct this problem (dark/light/dark/light)
- Explain a partition on mouseover in a box underneath the bar.
Solution #7:
A variety of smart options
Written by
Kver the 19 Apr 09 at 06:19.
A dropdown could be placed with several options, the selected being what it will do. Or more radio buttons could be added. These would be "smart" based on what is on the hard-drive(s), and which options would lose the least data.
Options could include:
- replacing the dominant partition (the single, largest partition will be deleted)
- shrinking all partitions (except swap) (it will try to scale by %)
- Wiping all small partitions (except swap) (keeping the largest partition and the swap, deleting all smaller partitions for space)
- Format * partition (* being a dropdown with any non-swap parition greater than 4.9gb)
- formatting (no explanation here)
- Manual
Tt would recommend a scheme based on the following, and would not show the option if the requirement isn't met:
#1 - Shrink partitions. If every partition (including Ubuntu) would have 10% of the HD's overall capacity as free space, recommend this option. Ie a 100gb hard drive would require 10gb of free space on each non-swap partition after the shrink.
#2 - Wipe small partitions. Use this option if the largest partition is at least 50% larger than non-swap partitions combined. If not, check #3.
#3 - Wipe the largest partition. Recommend this only if less than 20% of the partition is in use. Otherwise, recommend #4.
#4 - Format. Always shown.
#5 - Format * partition. Always shown.
#5 - Manual. Never recommended, always shown, as serious damage can be done by a new user.
A dropdown could be placed with several options, the selected being what it will do. Or more radio buttons could be added. These would be "smart" based on what is on the hard-drive(s), and which options would lose the least data.
Options could include:
- replacing the dominant partition (the single, largest partition will be deleted)
- shrinking all partitions (except swap) (it will try to scale by %)
- Wiping all small partitions (except swap) (keeping the largest partition and the swap, deleting all smaller partitions for space)
- Format * partition (* being a dropdown with any non-swap parition greater than 4.9gb)
- formatting (no explanation here)
- Manual
Tt would recommend a scheme based on the following, and would not show the option if the requirement isn't met:
#1 - Shrink partitions. If every partition (including Ubuntu) would have 10% of the HD's overall capacity as free space, recommend this option. Ie a 100gb hard drive would require 10gb of free space on each non-swap partition after the shrink.
#2 - Wipe small partitions. Use this option if the largest partition is at least 50% larger than non-swap partitions combined. If not, check #3.
#3 - Wipe the largest partition. Recommend this only if less than 20% of the partition is in use. Otherwise, recommend #4.
#4 - Format. Always shown.
#5 - Format * partition. Always shown.
#5 - Manual. Never recommended, always shown, as serious damage can be done by a new user.
Solution #9:
Display info about directories & their purpose
Display some information about different directories and their purpose, such as:
/home Contains the home directories (personal storage) for each user on the system
/usr Contains system programs and other files for general users such as games, online help, and documentation
/tmp Contains temporary files that are erased upon reboot
/etc Contains configuration files for Linux and other installed software
/bin Contains the Linux system commands and programs (also called binaries)
/var Contains variable data that changes constantly when the system is running
... and so on.
This will help a basic user understand the system better by knowing the purpose of each directory. It is difficult to make changes once the system has been installed. Therefore the user will be able to make an informed one-time decision about allocating partitions to different directories.
Display some information about different directories and their purpose, such as:
/home Contains the home directories (personal storage) for each user on the system
/usr Contains system programs and other files for general users such as games, online help, and documentation
/tmp Contains temporary files that are erased upon reboot
/etc Contains configuration files for Linux and other installed software
/bin Contains the Linux system commands and programs (also called binaries)
/var Contains variable data that changes constantly when the system is running
... and so on.
This will help a basic user understand the system better by knowing the purpose of each directory. It is difficult to make changes once the system has been installed. Therefore the user will be able to make an informed one-time decision about allocating partitions to different directories.
Solution #10:
Enhance & Simply GParted Functionalities
As said in the title ; GParted is powerful tool , it just lacks simplicity for new comers to UBUNTU, we should keep it but simplify it.
ex:
1- Simplify the meaning of mount point
2- Simplify the error messages for public understanding.
... & more if you have !!
As said in the title ; GParted is powerful tool , it just lacks simplicity for new comers to UBUNTU, we should keep it but simplify it.
ex:
1- Simplify the meaning of mount point
2- Simplify the error messages for public understanding.
... & more if you have !!
Solution #11:
bring GParted back as an option
Gparted is on the livecd anyway. Why not have it be an option? IE, there would be two "manually partition" options. One, for the current, low memory partitioner, and one for GParted.
This is how I remember it being done on Redhat, some ten years ago. Then, the options were autopartition, manually partition with the graphical partitioner, or manually partition with fdisk (yuk).
(Personally, I fire up GParted to partition before I do an install anyway. Like the original poster, I find the new partitioner too confusing.)
Gparted is on the livecd anyway. Why not have it be an option? IE, there would be two "manually partition" options. One, for the current, low memory partitioner, and one for GParted.
This is how I remember it being done on Redhat, some ten years ago. Then, the options were autopartition, manually partition with the graphical partitioner, or manually partition with fdisk (yuk).
(Personally, I fire up GParted to partition before I do an install anyway. Like the original poster, I find the new partitioner too confusing.)
Solution #13:
Alert new users to benefits of separate /home partition
Written by
tuxxy the 13 May 09 at 01:53.
New users may not understand a separate /home partition fully, an idea is to illustrate to them the future benefits that it will bring to them such as updating and personal data reliability.
New users may not understand a separate /home partition fully, an idea is to illustrate to them the future benefits that it will bring to them such as updating and personal data reliability.
Solution #14:
Simplified option for manual partitioning.
The partitioning process could be made simpler by adding a simplified option for Manual partitioning where a user can create custom partitions without needing to worry about mount points, filesystems etc.
The installation program will take care of making reasonable choices on mount points and fylesistems and creating a swap partition of resonable size.
There could be an option to create a separate /home partition with explained benefits and costs.
The installation program should advise simplified mode for manual partitioning to user that want to customize partition sizes but are not familiar with terms such as 'ext3' or 'swap partition'(like me for example).
The partitioning process could be made simpler by adding a simplified option for Manual partitioning where a user can create custom partitions without needing to worry about mount points, filesystems etc.
The installation program will take care of making reasonable choices on mount points and fylesistems and creating a swap partition of resonable size.
There could be an option to create a separate /home partition with explained benefits and costs.
The installation program should advise simplified mode for manual partitioning to user that want to customize partition sizes but are not familiar with terms such as 'ext3' or 'swap partition'(like me for example).
Solution #15:
Add LVM and RAID Support
Add LVM and RAID Support to the application. Also these technologies should be supported in the LiveCD installer.
Add LVM and RAID Support to the application. Also these technologies should be supported in the LiveCD installer.
Solution #16:
Automatically quick benchmark disks and recommend partition scheme
Written by
waster the 2 Oct 09 at 07:48.
With >1 disk, the partitioner could do a quick benchmark to see what latency and throughput are, especially for SSD hardware. It could then say for example:
Mirror root across two fast disks
Put /tmp on a RAID0 array
Set up a video/music media mount point to get most capacity out of slower disks, not worrying about latency.
etc, etc.
You could even toggle how much data security you want vs speed, so a new user could benefit from RAID0 speed, RAID1, RAID5 etc securtity without knowing the details underneath.
Needless to say, LVM should be on top of all this, and the chunk/stripe size alignment should be set up automatically (currently this is only optimal by chance - beware!) and the readahead for LVM should have a much better default.
With >1 disk, the partitioner could do a quick benchmark to see what latency and throughput are, especially for SSD hardware. It could then say for example:
Mirror root across two fast disks
Put /tmp on a RAID0 array
Set up a video/music media mount point to get most capacity out of slower disks, not worrying about latency.
etc, etc.
You could even toggle how much data security you want vs speed, so a new user could benefit from RAID0 speed, RAID1, RAID5 etc securtity without knowing the details underneath.
Needless to say, LVM should be on top of all this, and the chunk/stripe size alignment should be set up automatically (currently this is only optimal by chance - beware!) and the readahead for LVM should have a much better default.
Grub OS list
Written by jfbucas the 5 Nov 08 at 11:20.
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When you already have another OS installed on your system, installing Ubuntu makes a non-comfortable Grub menu list :
| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27...
| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27... (recovery mode)
| Ubuntu 8.10 memtest86+
| Other operating systems:
| Windows...
And if you ran kernel-updates, you may end with a big and messy menu.
I think this should be nice and sharp like this :
| Ubuntu Intrepid
| Windows
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| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.4246...
| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.28.rc37...
| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27...
| Ubuntu 8.10 kernel 2.6.27... (recovery mode)
| Ubuntu 8.10 memtest86+
Ubuntu Intrepid would be an entry to /boot/vmlinuz
/boot/vmlinuz would be a link to the latest kernel available.
a. I know it is possible to tweak the menu.lst file but, we should not have to do it
b. I feel like the number and importance of the entries in this menu, coming from the Ubuntu installation, are somehow disrespectful of the other OSes
c. I believe the purpose of a multi-boot menu is to enable access to all the OS, in a clean and efficient way
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Deselect autoinstalled programs
Written by minus198 the 22 Dec 08 at 15:58.
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During the installation of Ubuntu, there are quite a lot of applications automatically installed. I, and probably many others, will not use many of these applications.
So what I would want, is the ability to de/select which programs that should be or not be installed.
Here is a list of the programs that I don't use that are autoinstalled:
Tomboy Notes
All games
The OpenOffice Suite (I use Google Docs)
XSane Image Scanner (I don't even have a scanner)
Ekiega Softphone
Evolution (I use Thunderbird)
Pidgin (I use Emesene)
Transmission (I use deluge)
Rhythmbox (I use songbird)
Orca Screen Magnifier
All these applications I have to uninstall.(And evolution isn't even uninstallable without ruining some dependencies to some META-Packages.)
Many of these applications also leave irritating hidden directories left in my home folder.
So please Ubuntu. Give me more freedom to choose which applications I want to use.
Migrating an ext3-based system to ext4 sounds time-consuming and tricky
Written by asaz989 the 14 Jan 09 at 23:38.
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I hear ext4 file system support is going to be available in the next Alpha build of Jaunty (yay!). All the improvements (faster filesystem check, faster deletion of large files, more reliable journaling, MUCH higher file and filesystem size limits, etc.) sound good, but the migration sounds annoying. First there's enabling (by hand-modifying the fstab) ext4 feature support, then there's some procedure (unclear from my 15-minute perusal of online sources) to convert existing data structures to their ext4 versions.
Solution #1:
Graphical migration tool on upgrade to or install of Jaunty
Written by
asaz989 the 14 Jan 09 at 23:38.
So, I was hoping that, when it comes around to being released, the Jaunty LiveCD's partitioning tool includes an option to convert an existing ext3 partition to ext4, for those of us that want the newly stable functionality without having to do any research on command-line conversion. Even more useful would be a conversion option in the Synaptic distribution upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty, for automatic conversion of ext3-based Intrepid installations to ext4-based Jaunty.
So, I was hoping that, when it comes around to being released, the Jaunty LiveCD's partitioning tool includes an option to convert an existing ext3 partition to ext4, for those of us that want the newly stable functionality without having to do any research on command-line conversion. Even more useful would be a conversion option in the Synaptic distribution upgrade from Intrepid to Jaunty, for automatic conversion of ext3-based Intrepid installations to ext4-based Jaunty.
It's sometimes hard to manually configure GRUB
Written by JasonBurns the 12 Mar 09 at 22:11.
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I prefer to keep my operating systems on separate physical drives rather than on different partitions of the same drive.
When I setup dual boot on 2 of my laptops (Ubuntu 8.10 and Windows 2000) GRUB would automatically have Windows 2000 listed after Ubuntu was installed so I could select it from the GRUB menu. Both these laptops only have 1 hard drive, so Win2k was on one partition and Ubuntu on the other.
When I setup a dual boot on my desktop, GRUB did not automatically detect WinXP on my 2nd hard drive and I had to go through a lot of trial and error to get the device and partition right. I'm sure some people can do this easily, but for the rest of us it would be nice if it could be automatically detected like when separate partitions are used.
Solution #1:
Search all drives for OS installations and add them accordingly.
It seems that if Ubuntu can currently scan the drive it is being installed on and add entries to GRUB accordingly, it should be able to detect operating systems on other drives as well.
It seems that if Ubuntu can currently scan the drive it is being installed on and add entries to GRUB accordingly, it should be able to detect operating systems on other drives as well.
Solution #2:
Create a GTK+ GRUB config tool
KDE users can already install kgrubeditor to edit the grub config - don't know how good it is or isn't, because I'm not one and I'm trying to avoid installing all of KDE. But GRUB is a PITA to configure and install. It has gotten easier with support for UUID groot, but the fact that you might have to know what a UUID and a groot are says it all. We need an easy GUI config tool for GRUB that is capable of finding all the operating systems installed on the machine, and building a new grub config (complete with bootsplash and password options.)
KDE users can already install kgrubeditor to edit the grub config - don't know how good it is or isn't, because I'm not one and I'm trying to avoid installing all of KDE. But GRUB is a PITA to configure and install. It has gotten easier with support for UUID groot, but the fact that you might have to know what a UUID and a groot are says it all. We need an easy GUI config tool for GRUB that is capable of finding all the operating systems installed on the machine, and building a new grub config (complete with bootsplash and password options.)
Solution #3:
A better Startup Manager
Written by
lvxferre the 1 Sep 10 at 06:06.
GRUB is a great tool, one-of-kind program. However, we are just plain users, not programmers.
We already have a GRUB configuration tool called StartUp-Manager. Currently, it allows to choose default time, default OS, show/hide splash and boot monitor resolution.
However, it isn't enough - it must be able to:
*Change OS order;
*Show/hide recover and memtest in boot;
*Manually add more entries of non-autodetected OSes;
*Change the number of kernels showing in boot;
*Change entries names (i.e., show only "Ubuntu 10.04" instead of "Ubuntu blablablah with kernel blahblah")
GRUB is a great tool, one-of-kind program. However, we are just plain users, not programmers.
We already have a GRUB configuration tool called StartUp-Manager. Currently, it allows to choose default time, default OS, show/hide splash and boot monitor resolution.
However, it isn't enough - it must be able to:
*Change OS order;
*Show/hide recover and memtest in boot;
*Manually add more entries of non-autodetected OSes;
*Change the number of kernels showing in boot;
*Change entries names (i.e., show only "Ubuntu 10.04" instead of "Ubuntu blablablah with kernel blahblah")
File System Converter
Written by Mishtal the 3 Sep 08 at 18:08.
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Problem:
A user who wants to convert entire partitions to one file system to another currently needs to move any data that they wish to save to another partition, and manually replace the partition with the desired one.
This effectively makes changing a file system in one pass require an extra amount of storage space equal to the size of the files that the user wishes to save.
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Example:
Bob is a new Linux user. He has been dual booting Linux and Windows XP for the past three months and has decided that after giving Ubuntu a try, he feels it suits his needs more than Windows does. But there is a problem. Bob has a 50 Gigabyte external hard-drive that has a single NTFS partition filled with 45 gigabytes of music.
Bob feels that because Ubuntu suits his purposes better than Windows, it would be in his best interest to have his music be on an EXT3 file system, instead of an NTFS. But there is a problem. Bob only has a few gigabytes free on his hard drives, and doesn't have the money to buy a new hard drive.
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Solution:
If you take a look at the G-Parted partition manager, You'll notice that there are a few limitations to which file systems we can manipulate to our heart's content. But that doesn't mean that that's how things will stay.
Consider a stand alone application, or perhaps additional functionality added to existing partition managers, that instead of having to
1) Copy files and folders from the unwanted partition to the wanted one to free up space
2) Shrink the unwanted partition, and grow the wanted one
3) repeat
we could just simply say "convert this file system to X file system"
even if the way that it ends up happening is just an automated process of the above, I think that an application like this would save countless hours.
But I dont see why it would need to be as hackish as that. We know the specs of EXT3, RiserFS, and so on, there must be a way that we can mutate a file system from one type, to a comparable / compatible replacement without having to manually copy and paste files.
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