Written by treschny the 29 Mar 10 at 01:24.

Installing from the Live CD/DVD gives a unique opportunity to be able to clearly label / re-label all partitions because they are not booted into any of them at the time. I think we could add a GUI-based tool/step during installation that lets users label / re-label their partition's however they want. It should show any pre-existing labels as well as the hard drive make, size, sda-z assignment, etc., to make them easy to recognize.

Since I understand that Ubuntu always uses UUID's, it seems to me that re-labeling shouldn't need to affect booting up or symlinks to existing places like Documents, Music, etc. In fact if Ubuntu always kept track of the UUIDs and displayed ONLY the user-defined labels of partitions to users, Ubuntu could probably autogenerate error-free fstab files for 99.9% of users. The other 0.1% would be very experienced Linux users with unique requirements - we don't need to worry about these folks. A successful implementation of this tool could mean that most Ubuntu users would never even need to know what fstab was. This would increase user satisfaction immensely. This GUI-based tool should also then be made available within Ubuntu's System/Administration, with an option to label / re-label any and all partitions. If a user chose to re-label the host partition, it could be done during the next boot cycle, with the appropriate fstab changes made automatically at this time.

Are there any OS's that call upon partitions by their labels only and not their UUID's? Changing labels so easily could potentially cause problems the next time a user booted up into an OS like this.

Installing from the Live CD/DVD gives a unique opportunity to be able to clearly label / re-label all partitions because they are not booted into any of them at the time. I think we could add a GUI-based tool/step during installation that lets users label / re-label their partition's however they want. It should show any pre-existing labels as well as the hard drive make, size, sda-z assignment, etc., to make them easy to recognize. Since I understand that Ubuntu always uses UUID's, it seems to me that re-labeling shouldn't need to affect booting up or symlinks to existing places like Documents, Music, etc. In fact if Ubuntu always kept track of the UUIDs and displayed ONLY the user-defined labels of partitions to users, Ubuntu could probably autogenerate error-free fstab files for 99.9% of users. The other 0.1% would be very experienced Linux users with unique requirements - we don't need to worry about these folks. A successful implementation of this tool could mean that most Ubuntu users would never even need to know what fstab was. This would increase user satisfaction immensely. This GUI-based tool should also then be made available within Ubuntu's System/Administration, with an option to label / re-label any and all partitions. If a user chose to re-label the host partition, it could be done during the next boot cycle, with the appropriate fstab changes made automatically at this time. Are there any OS's that call upon partitions by their labels only and not their UUID's? Changing labels so easily could potentially cause problems the next time a user booted up into an OS like this.

Written by aliam13_2 the 30 Mar 10 at 18:18.

The manual partition editor already does something very close to this. You can create/delete/resize/format partitions etc. Why not be able to set the label on partitions as well. Default labels could be introduced for the root partitions and for others like home.

This seems like the logical place to put the functionality without bloating the installer - its a single more field in the add/edit partition window of the manual partition GUI in the installer. Putting it here also hides it from the average user who will not be manipulating partitions manually.

The manual partition editor already does something very close to this. You can create/delete/resize/format partitions etc. Why not be able to set the label on partitions as well. Default labels could be introduced for the root partitions and for others like home. This seems like the logical place to put the functionality without bloating the installer - its a single more field in the add/edit partition window of the manual partition GUI in the installer. Putting it here also hides it from the average user who will not be manipulating partitions manually.

Written by AdlerHorst the 5 Apr 10 at 18:45.

while booting, the system should first use UUID. If he not found it, it should automatically use label name, and if he did not find the label name .....

while booting, the system should first use UUID. If he not found it, it should automatically use label name, and if he did not find the label name .....

Written by janozaurus the 18 Apr 10 at 20:36.

LV are addressed by labels (and invisible to other OSs).

LV are addressed by labels (and invisible to other OSs).

Written by m0z4rt the 26 Aug 09 at 14:49.

check installation cd inside installer before write anything to disk

check installation cd inside installer before write anything to disk

Written by ssam the 27 Aug 09 at 13:25.

a quick check should always run. it could detect the most common burn errors.
* check size of CD
* check that some files exist

a quick check should always run. it could detect the most common burn errors. * check size of CD * check that some files exist

Written by Otus the 27 Aug 09 at 13:34.

The beginning of the installation process includes questions requiring user interaction. The installer should use this time to check the data in the background. While at it, most of the data could probably be cached for a faster installation overall.

The beginning of the installation process includes questions requiring user interaction. The installer should use this time to check the data in the background. While at it, most of the data could probably be cached for a faster installation overall.

Written by Ssdg the 27 Aug 09 at 14:21.

When you review your installation parameters, there should be a checkbox that allows the user to check for defects on the cd-rom before installation (say you've got to install ubuntu on a few computers or more, you'll check the CD the first time, do the install and just install next times).

Of course, the live CD will continue to work during the integrity check (games, firefox, ...) so you're not looking at a boring progress bar.

When you review your installation parameters, there should be a checkbox that allows the user to check for defects on the cd-rom before installation (say you've got to install ubuntu on a few computers or more, you'll check the CD the first time, do the install and just install next times). Of course, the live CD will continue to work during the integrity check (games, firefox, ...) so you're not looking at a boring progress bar.

Written by Darwin Survivor the 27 Aug 09 at 16:02.

Why are we checking the cd for integrity AFTER rebooting the machine and trying to use it instead of right after the problem would have occured (burning).

The best time to check the integrity of something is right after it is created. All ubuntu live cd's have and md5 checksums file (this is what the regular checker uses), why not have the cd burning software itself do this scan?

Burning software already verifies the cd against the iso file (default checked option), but it does not check against an md5 checksum file (which would also verify that the original ISO was valid).

Why are we checking the cd for integrity AFTER rebooting the machine and trying to use it instead of right after the problem would have occured (burning). The best time to check the integrity of something is right after it is created. All ubuntu live cd's have and md5 checksums file (this is what the regular checker uses), why not have the cd burning software itself do this scan? Burning software already verifies the cd against the iso file (default checked option), but it does not check against an md5 checksum file (which would also verify that the original ISO was valid).

Written by cos the 28 Aug 09 at 19:15.

Make the *default* download (that beginners will get) a zipped ISO. An alternative download for the usual raw ISO should also be provided for people who know the risks.
Even though this wouldn't necessarily help with failed CD burning, it should catch bad downloads at least.

Zip files can be extracted on both Linux and Windows without additional software, everybody knows how to use them, and they check file integrity while they are being extracted. This would help beginner users to catch download errors before they attempt to burn the iso to CD.

This also allows a README file to be included in the archive to explain what needs to be done, and what to do if you get extraction or burn errors, as well as explain why running the CD check before the installer is a good idea.

Of course, this would need an additional step to extract the zip, and more disk space -- a small price for beginners to pay, next to a failed OS installation!

Make the *default* download (that beginners will get) a zipped ISO. An alternative download for the usual raw ISO should also be provided for people who know the risks. Even though this wouldn't necessarily help with failed CD burning, it should catch bad downloads at least. Zip files can be extracted on both Linux and Windows without additional software, everybody knows how to use them, and they check file integrity while they are being extracted. This would help beginner users to catch download errors before they attempt to burn the iso to CD. This also allows a README file to be included in the archive to explain what needs to be done, and what to do if you get extraction or burn errors, as well as explain why running the CD check before the installer is a good idea. Of course, this would need an additional step to extract the zip, and more disk space -- a small price for beginners to pay, next to a failed OS installation!

Written by natureflow the 3 Sep 09 at 09:14.

The packaging system should detect broken packages automatically and repair them when internet connection is available.

So if there is a broken package on CD, installation won't fail and the system will repair the package later (when internet connection or a better CD is available)

The packaging system should detect broken packages automatically and repair them when internet connection is available. So if there is a broken package on CD, installation won't fail and the system will repair the package later (when internet connection or a better CD is available)

Written by CyberKiller the 9 Sep 09 at 11:36.

Metalink has checksum checking built in (MD5 and SHA1) so you always got a good file downloaded.

Metalink has checksum checking built in (MD5 and SHA1) so you always got a good file downloaded.

Written by albatroxx the 15 Sep 09 at 16:04.

Add an option to check the CD after a failed installation, it makes no sense to slow down 99% of all installations when the problem could be resolved by checking for errors only if something goes wrong

Add an option to check the CD after a failed installation, it makes no sense to slow down 99% of all installations when the problem could be resolved by checking for errors only if something goes wrong

Written by Jaksco the 18 Sep 09 at 02:38.

Have the installer automatically check (after Install Summary), but have a button or something for user to skip.

"During this helpful step, Installer takes a few moments to check the source disc itself before starting the installation process. If you see a message about a "failed checksum," then there may be an issue with your optical disc or optical drive (see the tips below).

Note: During this step, you may see a "Skip" button in the Installer window. If you haven't used your Install disc before (or recently), you should not skip this step."

(http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2956)

Have the installer automatically check (after Install Summary), but have a button or something for user to skip. "During this helpful step, Installer takes a few moments to check the source disc itself before starting the installation process. If you see a message about a "failed checksum," then there may be an issue with your optical disc or optical drive (see the tips below). Note: During this step, you may see a "Skip" button in the Installer window. If you haven't used your Install disc before (or recently), you should not skip this step." (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2956)

Written by Lachu the 18 Sep 09 at 10:33.

If system starts, it have change to install normally. Ubuntu can check medium on file copy operation(installation process). If we have network connection, it could download broken part of CD's and fix packages/files.
(You can also put sha1/md5 sums of files on CD's, so the check can be done on installation process very easy and only broken files will be downloaded).
It should also allow to save patches on the pendrive/floppy disk, so it don't must been downloaded twice time.

If system starts, it have change to install normally. Ubuntu can check medium on file copy operation(installation process). If we have network connection, it could download broken part of CD's and fix packages/files. (You can also put sha1/md5 sums of files on CD's, so the check can be done on installation process very easy and only broken files will be downloaded). It should also allow to save patches on the pendrive/floppy disk, so it don't must been downloaded twice time.

Written by cornbread the 1 Oct 09 at 17:17.

1. I've got windows or mac os installed and I want to keep them installed.

2. I've got windows or mac os installed and I don't want to keep them installed.

3. I've got windows or mac os installed and I want to keep them installed and I want my settings and transferred (ie background, favorites)

4. I've got windows or mac os installed and I don't want to keep them installed, but, I want my settings and transferred (ie background, favorites, pictures, documents)

And of course an advanced button. Or you can hide this under a beginner button.

1. I've got windows or mac os installed and I want to keep them installed. 2. I've got windows or mac os installed and I don't want to keep them installed. 3. I've got windows or mac os installed and I want to keep them installed and I want my settings and transferred (ie background, favorites) 4. I've got windows or mac os installed and I don't want to keep them installed, but, I want my settings and transferred (ie background, favorites, pictures, documents) And of course an advanced button. Or you can hide this under a beginner button.

Written by bvidulich the 5 Oct 09 at 00:10.

At the start of the installation, ask the user what their level of skill is with Ubuntu.

Depending on what they chose, use appropriate language/words (e.g. Solution #1) that best suits the user's skill level.

At the start of the installation, ask the user what their level of skill is with Ubuntu. Depending on what they chose, use appropriate language/words (e.g. Solution #1) that best suits the user's skill level.

Written by ActionParsnip the 13 Oct 09 at 11:40.

Have an advanced option which users can select to then take out half the bloat that comes with a stock install of ubuntu. I am having to resort to ulite to get a small punchy OS rather than a tonne of extra drivers / apps I will not use. There should be a big button for the windows folks to madly click on without thinking and a nice little link to open a dialogue to remove and add apps from CD / Online repos etc.

Have an advanced option which users can select to then take out half the bloat that comes with a stock install of ubuntu. I am having to resort to ulite to get a small punchy OS rather than a tonne of extra drivers / apps I will not use. There should be a big button for the windows folks to madly click on without thinking and a nice little link to open a dialogue to remove and add apps from CD / Online repos etc.

Written by nsanz the 21 Oct 09 at 05:06.

wen you run the live cd, in he window that you select language, keyboard distribution, and install or start the live version add an Advanced Option whit a lighted and more advanced version of the wizard, maybe like karmic or jaunty versions

wen you run the live cd, in he window that you select language, keyboard distribution, and install or start the live version add an Advanced Option whit a lighted and more advanced version of the wizard, maybe like karmic or jaunty versions

Written by Loofy the 10 Sep 09 at 16:03.

Just add a step/screen in the system installation to let user pick what he'd prefer as default settings.

Just add a step/screen in the system installation to let user pick what he'd prefer as default settings.

Written by Ssdg the 10 Sep 09 at 21:19.

Allow the user to change these in a userspace based way.

Allow the user to change these in a userspace based way.

Written by mikaelstaldal the 11 Sep 09 at 09:37.

The old UNIX way to do this is to control the language used for translations with the LANGUAGE environment variable. Just make the desktop and all applications respect this.

(Other locale settings is controlled with the LANG environment variable. This is also used as default for translations if LANGUAGE is not set.)

The settings in solution #2 should update the LANGUAGE and LANG environment variables.

The old UNIX way to do this is to control the language used for translations with the LANGUAGE environment variable. Just make the desktop and all applications respect this. (Other locale settings is controlled with the LANG environment variable. This is also used as default for translations if LANGUAGE is not set.) The settings in solution #2 should update the LANGUAGE and LANG environment variables.

Written by Theodore the 1 Jan 09 at 18:30.

Make swap file the default option with the option to do swap partitions for advanced users.

Make swap file the default option with the option to do swap partitions for advanced users.