Written by XVIIarcano the 8 May 08 at 13:58.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8225 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8225 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!

Written by Alecs Jonson the 2 Apr 09 at 18:54.

This way would be a "partisan" way. You have someone who actively goes to people and leads them through ubuntu life. At same time, you have a newbie who has his personal "ubuntu hotline", his personal ubuntu helper. This mentoring guy does not have to be a pro. He just has to want to help someone, and through his knowledge or knowing where to look for solutions and/or tutorials, or even pass that question towards his mentor, to help his student.

Through this personal connection betwen these two, both will be happy. Student guy will be happy because he will have a person who will be ready to help him, while mentor guy will be able to organize his life much easier, because he will take only X number of people, for whom he will have a helping responsibility.

Also we have to find a way to display these relations and the way of "rewarding" and reputation building.

This idea will allow some people to participate more in community, because some of them do not have knowledge of packaging, translations, development or whatever else.

p.s. Solution #2 has to happen too, but most of us can't help that much in that solution. Also, Sol.#2 won't help, if you have some strange issue with your PC, like your Bluetooth does not work, or you have a "light" version of mainboard, namely Abit IP35-E (my own issue but i knew hot to sort that). Most of people that we are trying to convert now, do not care about chipsets and drivers, they want that their computer to be configured automagically.

This way would be a "partisan" way. You have someone who actively goes to people and leads them through ubuntu life. At same time, you have a newbie who has his personal "ubuntu hotline", his personal ubuntu helper. This mentoring guy does not have to be a pro. He just has to want to help someone, and through his knowledge or knowing where to look for solutions and/or tutorials, or even pass that question towards his mentor, to help his student. Through this personal connection betwen these two, both will be happy. Student guy will be happy because he will have a person who will be ready to help him, while mentor guy will be able to organize his life much easier, because he will take only X number of people, for whom he will have a helping responsibility. Also we have to find a way to display these relations and the way of "rewarding" and reputation building. This idea will allow some people to participate more in community, because some of them do not have knowledge of packaging, translations, development or whatever else. p.s. Solution #2 has to happen too, but most of us can't help that much in that solution. Also, Sol.#2 won't help, if you have some strange issue with your PC, like your Bluetooth does not work, or you have a "light" version of mainboard, namely Abit IP35-E (my own issue but i knew hot to sort that). Most of people that we are trying to convert now, do not care about chipsets and drivers, they want that their computer to be configured automagically.

Written by Biornus the 4 Apr 09 at 07:31.

I would personally be annoyed if I was going to give Ubuntu a whirl and it was so hard to use that I had to have a personal guide.

I admit that there are dificulties, and many things are illogical to the new user. But why not strive towards making it easier to use? Like the new animated intro that is being worked on?

Then solution #1 should be irrelevant.

I would personally be annoyed if I was going to give Ubuntu a whirl and it was so hard to use that I had to have a personal guide. I admit that there are dificulties, and many things are illogical to the new user. But why not strive towards making it easier to use? Like the new animated intro that is being worked on? Then solution #1 should be irrelevant.

Written by Basem the 5 Apr 09 at 06:28.

Add a personal Mentor (pidgin?) who can assist you, guide you, and answer ur questions regarding Ubuntu or firefox.

Add a personal Mentor (pidgin?) who can assist you, guide you, and answer ur questions regarding Ubuntu or firefox.

Written by yourpalal the 7 Apr 09 at 20:32.

www.opensourcebistro.com is a site dedicated to making easy to understand tutorials for beginners. Although the site currently emphasises vector linux, the goal is to have tutorials for all distros. The tutorials are made with Wink, and can be viewed embedded in a web browser or downloaded and viewed locally. To have some official canonical tutorials on there would certainly be helpful to many beginners and also one tutorial can answer the same question from many people, making it more efficient than a peer based mentoring system.

www.opensourcebistro.com is a site dedicated to making easy to understand tutorials for beginners. Although the site currently emphasises vector linux, the goal is to have tutorials for all distros. The tutorials are made with Wink, and can be viewed embedded in a web browser or downloaded and viewed locally. To have some official canonical tutorials on there would certainly be helpful to many beginners and also one tutorial can answer the same question from many people, making it more efficient than a peer based mentoring system.

Written by tchalvakspam the 9 Apr 09 at 22:31.

Linux User Groups help the linux (and especially ubuntu, in my experience) community help each-other, and increase word-of-mouth advertising, which is the best way to get ubuntu out there.
I would much rather try out an operating system suggested and demo-ed to me by a friend than, for example, a phone operative, or on my own. Certainly I was introduced to ubuntu by a friend, and introduced linux to my brother face-to-face. The more there are groups in the local area to increase the exposure to other linux users, the faster ubuntu will spread.

Linux User Groups help the linux (and especially ubuntu, in my experience) community help each-other, and increase word-of-mouth advertising, which is the best way to get ubuntu out there. I would much rather try out an operating system suggested and demo-ed to me by a friend than, for example, a phone operative, or on my own. Certainly I was introduced to ubuntu by a friend, and introduced linux to my brother face-to-face. The more there are groups in the local area to increase the exposure to other linux users, the faster ubuntu will spread.

Written by sanketmedhi the 15 Apr 09 at 09:15.

In response to Solution #1, we can have a web page that will list users registered as mentors with their contact information.

Mentors can charge a small fee for providing services. They can offer free service for a limited duration, say a week, after which users can decide if they would like to pay for continued services.

Users who need a mentor can search for mentors with search criteria like location, accessibility, etc. Users who are already using a mentor's services can rate the mentor based on service, price, etc.

This solution IMO will attract mentors and serious users/beginners/offices.

In response to Solution #1, we can have a web page that will list users registered as mentors with their contact information. Mentors can charge a small fee for providing services. They can offer free service for a limited duration, say a week, after which users can decide if they would like to pay for continued services. Users who need a mentor can search for mentors with search criteria like location, accessibility, etc. Users who are already using a mentor's services can rate the mentor based on service, price, etc. This solution IMO will attract mentors and serious users/beginners/offices.

Written by Pacemaker the 9 Jun 09 at 13:30.

In my oppinion you don't need that much.
Only a small guide which explains everything to you (maybe with the possibility that it compares things with windows if you've used that before so the beginning is easier!)

But the main aspect is the first window that appears after installation could be a tour with things like "here are the media files", "this is your new web browser" and so on.
I think that's kind of what microsoft always does, isn't it?

Of course no one would want a copy of windows (or at least i don't and i don't expect others to do so) so there has to be an own way but it ain't that bad for "newbees"!

In my oppinion you don't need that much. Only a small guide which explains everything to you (maybe with the possibility that it compares things with windows if you've used that before so the beginning is easier!) But the main aspect is the first window that appears after installation could be a tour with things like "here are the media files", "this is your new web browser" and so on. I think that's kind of what microsoft always does, isn't it? Of course no one would want a copy of windows (or at least i don't and i don't expect others to do so) so there has to be an own way but it ain't that bad for "newbees"!

Written by JaapHaitsma the 27 Apr 08 at 17:50.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #7715 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #7715 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!

Written by webhamster the 29 Mar 08 at 08:54.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #5991 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #5991 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!

Written by henk0775 the 17 May 08 at 12:25.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8710 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8710 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!

Written by massond the 18 May 08 at 10:17.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8751 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Written by fhucho the 1 Apr 08 at 15:18.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #6224 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Written by pitwalker@gmail.com the 6 May 08 at 16:47.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8159 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Written by Auzy the 20 Jun 08 at 15:01.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #10100 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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Written by Auzy the 16 May 08 at 02:45.

Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8652 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

<i>Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #8652 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution.</i><br /> Thanks!