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Idea #16181: Help with development of KDE4 apps

Written by Primož Papič the 3 Dec 08 at 15:15. Related project: Kubuntu. Status: New
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I'm getting more and more the felling that Kubuntu is lagging behind all other KDE4 distros. Few things that are *keeping* me at Kubuntu are apt, good repos and this site.
I took a look at other KDE4 distros like OpenSuSE and Fedora, and they both have some things that are special to their distro.
OpenSuSE ports parts of KDE4.2 to 4.1 for usability reasons, so you can choose between normal and plasma desktop, and let us not forget that Kickoff menu is a SuSE menu.
And Fedora has a "security centre" where you can manage your firewall and other stuff nicely through GUI...
Ok Kubuntu has a nice installer which is quite new-user friendly but Adept still needs a lot of works in its "super" mode, the add/remove mode is really good but the Adept itself is years behind Synaptic.
While SuSE is on "bleeding edge" and back porting future options and Fedora is stressing the security factor; Kubuntu should take for its priority usability and user friendliness.
KDE4 at this point lacks a very important tool: "auto starter" which would prompt a window when a data CD / USB key(pendrive) or audio CD is mounted.
This window should prompt:
Open folder
Play music
View pictures
Rip CD
...

And there are other things which can be improved.
The example that I gave is implementable to KDE4 for all distros.
You could ask what we get from that. Well the same thing that OpenSuSE gets from Kickoff beeing a default menu.
Everyone knows that Kickoff is from SuSE and it gives you the view that this distro is really the pinnacle in KDE as KDE takes their "app" and use it.

I don't say that Kubuntu should share every KDE improvement that it develops, only that it should also give of some improvements to KDE community so it can profile as an "big player" in KDE world.
But more than that Kubuntu should have more reasons why a user should use it not just the simplicity of use...

(Kubuntu is just more or less vanilla KDE with apt repo...)
Any comment is welcome!
Tags: KDE KDE4

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Written by Primož Papič the 3 Dec 08 at 15:15.
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Vadim P. wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 17:10
Kubuntu is a more of a community distribution than Ubuntu. As such, the community has more control - so if you'd like more development, lobby the community to develop more.

Cypher wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 19:59
Canonical does not support KDE... sadly... so screw them, and switch to a better distro, such as OpenSUSE.

sayakb (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 20:21
@Cypher

That is incorrect. Canonical officially supports Kubuntu, which is *not* a fork but an official distro.

http://www.kubuntu.org/faq#fork

Primož Papič wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 20:49
@Cypher: As has been said Kubuntu is official fork of Ubuntu and Mark Shutlleworth said that it will be the best KDE based distro. Sadly it isn't so...
And also Shuttleworth is some kind of special godfather/patron/sponsor to KDE project, it would be really nice to see Kubuntu being a bit more powerfull as it already is.
I also posted similar post to Kubuntu forums, where things are moving a bit...
I just hope that some with knowledge of C++ and Qt4 will read my idea and decide to "contribute" to Kubuntu.

DrHalan wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 21:07
why backporting from 4.2? just wait for a final 4.2

Primož Papič wrote on the 3 Dec 08 at 21:41
@DrHalan: Ask this question to OpenSuSE...
I think it has to do with better usability...
Like option to choose between normal KDE3-like desktop
and KDE4 desktop.
And other things like that.

Also I drafted a blueprint (hope it was done right) to have
Kubuntu development mentoring... For something like Adopt a nooob.

retj wrote on the 4 Dec 08 at 03:06
I still hate the fact that kubuntu related items don't get very much voted, its kind of sad, all the ideas related to it end up with 30 votes, tops. Ubuntu seems to just care about Gnome.

sayakb (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 4 Dec 08 at 06:34
@retj
If you are a KDE/Kubuntu addict like me :) The next Brainstorm version has much wider support for KDE apps. That should definitely improve categorizing KDE ideas and hence, would be voted wisely enough.

xapient wrote on the 4 Dec 08 at 09:20
@retj i think you pointed that out correctly.. brainstorm.ubuntu.com is about ubuntu.. therefore gnome.. i'm loosing interest ..
almost every third idea is about nautilus, ofcourse thats because dolphin has most of them implemented already ^^

i really hope for a wider brainstorm kde support.. maybe a seperate brainstorm.kubuntu.com ore brainstorm.kde.org ??

yes.. there is launchpad.. but there is nothing more userfriendly than this ideatorrent brainstorm thing...

Dinth wrote on the 4 Dec 08 at 10:11
I agree. I use Kubuntu but unfortunately it feels not like official distro, but like very primitive fork with GNOME removed aand KDE added by default

Cypher wrote on the 5 Dec 08 at 13:16
That's what I meant by "no support"... Officially, it is supported... but in practice, Kubuntu is just a second class citizen, and it's been declared as "Community driven", with no direct support from Canonical. How many developers are paid by Canonical to work on Ubuntu ? And how many to work on Kubuntu ?

Sorry, but no, Kubuntu has nothing to do with it's GNOME counterpart.

Primož Papič wrote on the 5 Dec 08 at 15:28
If you think that Kubuntu is not treated the same as Ubuntu and have not yet voted please vote:
Idea #478: Support kubuntu and kde the way you support ubuntu and gnome - not my idea...


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