Idea
#9724: If USB sticks pulled out during file operation: replug for clean unmount
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Written by steve196 the 10 Jun 08 at 13:46.
Category: Others.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
When a USB stick (or some other kind of data storage) is pulled out, while something is written on it or while part of the data is still cached in the RAM, freeze all file operations to the device and demand it to be plugged in again. After it is plugged in again, complete the remaining operations and unmount the device.
If the warning dialogue is canceled by the user, then cancel all operations and regard the device as unmounted.
edit: Thanks to Auzy for finding the very good description of this in http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1515/ which was lost due to being incorrectly marked as a duplicate of something completely different.
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Auzy wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 14:07
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This is a dupe
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steve196 wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 14:30
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of..?
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Auzy wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 14:59
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http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1515/
Some mod has wrongly marked it dupe though.
This highlights the need for us to be able to audit the moderators, so that mods who are consistently marking dupes incorrectly, are no longer mods.
Because in the same idea, there is a second marked wrongly: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1949/
This has to have been at least the sixth idea I have seen that has been lost now, due to bad moderating.. And I bet I could find a lot more by looking through older ideas. When you have 2 wrong dupes attached to the same idea, you know that one of the mods are not reading what they are marking as dupe (at least when handling that idea they weren't). The mod system isn't working.
Some have been lost due to chinese whispers to, where some ideas are linked in a chain that are all marginally different, but the end result is nothing like the original. In that case, its not the mods fault, but a faulty process.
So as of now, I will no longer mark any dupes. Some of the better ideas here are being lost. We just lost 2 in one hit here. I don't want to risk losing any more.
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Auzy wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 15:06
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And btw, I mean that with the greatest respects. They can still be an awesome coder, but just a bad mod.
But when I have to spend so much time whinging about totally incorrectly modded ideas, its a waste of my time, and everyone elses
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steve196 wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 15:41
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Correct. Mine is a dupe of 1515, which is incorrectly marked as a dupe of 72 (an almost completely unrelated idea) and therefore did not turn up in my search.
Do not mark this one as a duplicate though until the error of marking 1515 as a duplicate is fixed, otherwise it will end up in the pool of 72.
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Auzy wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 01:53
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I haven't touched the dupes for that reason
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Auzy wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 07:50
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Yes, and that looks wrongly duped too Magnes... One mod must have been having a bad day..
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bryhoyt wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 10:33
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+20
This is a fantastic idea -- and obviously more than one person had the same idea!
Currently, you simply don't know whether a device was in the middle of a write or not, and your data will be silently lost -- silent failure is *always* a bad thing.
I'm always removing my USB stick without unmounting it -- it's just quicker & easier. Normally it saves time, but every now and then I lose a file and regret doing so.
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gsiliceo wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 14:34
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HAHAHA freeze all other operations, that would annoy the bejeesus out of 90% of the users, thats just a terrible aspect of the idea, but a resume mounting would be nice, a better usb file operations dialog would be better, the current one lies because it does not show the status of the cache making us believe something is done when is not.
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steve196 wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 19:41
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@gsiliceo:
What is the difference between "freeze all file operations to the device" and "freeze all other operations"?
File operations to the device must be frozen or terminated with an error if the device is not there. I am for freezing, because then the operation can still be completed.
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r0g wrote on the 12 Sep 08 at 04:25
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+1 - Indeed if MS-DOS could do it for floppy disks I see no reason Ubuntu shouldn't be able to!
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