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Idea #97: Fix compatibility with webcams and microphone

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Written by dragonx the 28 Feb 08 at 17:30. Category: Multimedia. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: Not an idea
Rationale
In many cases, I can't configure my webcam or I have problems with the microphone. Now I can use my webcam but only with V4L2 and only 3 programas detect my webcam. It's a good idea can use my webcam in all programs as camorama.


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That's pure driver issue in the first place. A big plus is to recommend UVC-based webcams to users, since it takes a lot of work off the shoulders of driver-developers. On the
integration-side proper support for v4l/v4l2 in webcam-related applications needs to be solidified. The ideal application to polish up is cheese of course.

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Written by dragonx the 28 Feb 08 at 17:30.
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alexantao wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 20:06
My webcam is also NOT recognized. I bought it one year ago, and could not use it yet.

Better support for those kind of hardware !

It is a SONIX Microdia (0x0c45:0x6270).

olafura wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 20:14
Setting up the microphone is too complicated and if you have a microphone in the screen then you have to watch for a high pitch noise.
Also configuring the brightness and other parameters is too hard and does not work on the application level, every application has to implement this feature for them selfs.

sgd2z wrote on the 28 Feb 08 at 23:45
Webcam drivers are not in repository, please add them and make it easier to use webcam in apps. Add Flash-webcam support like on barcodepedia

dmuir wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 00:21
I've got a Logitech webcam, and it kind of works... Well, for about 3 seconds or so, then it crashes whatever program was using it.

lifeless85 wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 00:28
i think you should push up on the make more hardware compatible, or create an hardware abstraction layer more flexible, greets

maltes wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 00:39
This would be more and more stable webcam drivers. Not really an Ubuntu issue, more a kernel issue.

This point could be merged with "Create a better hardware database":

http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/40/

Since that is where you need to go before buying a webcam and where you can find out if and how the camera works.

IF the hardware database is actually any good.

Cappy wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 01:41
The kernel's webcam drivers in Gutsy are old. I haven't checked if they are updated in Hardy. (GSPCA and UVCVIDEO)

trocupei wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 02:39
firewall issues are very important. Apps should be in a list of opening ports

Shannon_VanWagner wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 04:29
I'd like to see a "USB Camera Installation/Setup/Testing" utility in Ubuntu. This program would help users install and use their USB webcam.

If a specific webcam doesn't work with Linux, the utility could point the user to the right place to "request the mfgr to work with Linux" and to "request Linux dev assistance" (e.g., https://groups.google.com/group/microdia).

The util could also provide a detailed list of programs that can be used with a webcam in Ubuntu.

Webcams need to work better in Linux for more adoption with people that use the Internet.

Shannon VanWagner


afuchs wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 05:33
My laptop's built in web cam worked immediately after installing gutsy. However, the built in microphone has never worked properly, it just puts out static.

Adila01 wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 06:28
This issue will become more important with the inclusion of Cheese into the newest version of GNOME. Webcam detection and installation should be as easy as it is with printers. Plus, a system tray icon to show that a Webcam is being used won't hurt.

cgkh.webservices wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 10:50
I concur with the above comments.

Configuring my Labtec webcam in Gutsy has been a mess...and left me looking and feeling blue - the colour of the resultant image.

I also have built-in microphone problems.

Come on guys lets sort this out!

Erik Andren wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:47
Webcam support is non-trivial as a driver needs to be written for each chip inside if it's not UVC-compatible.

To add to the trouble, webcam makers are mostly not giving out any datasheets which forces us to reverse-engineer the windows driver. This takes time and is very hard to do.

If you have some programming skills I suggest you find out what chip you have inside your webcam and help out that project (if there is such a project, otherwise start a new one).

For all others, mail your webcam producer and demand a linux driver and/or check if the cam you're about to buy supports linux or not.

BlackICE wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:52
My USB headset that i use seems to not be recognized by sound recorder, but it is by ubuntu. It works in skype and thats pretty much it. Any thing else can't seem to detect my mic.

As for webcams, i don't have one :P but it would be nice for when i do get one!

pierrebrody wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 12:54
I just want to do simple things with the (ordinary commodity) microphone, but I have been having real problems getting it to work.

pierrebrody wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 13:03
Forum thread

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=695952

(I tried using the "Attach a ubuntuforums.org thread", but the app told me I needed to provide a title -- yet the title field is disabled.)

demigod wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 06:11
in my case my webcam mic is detected and working but no video

webcam:Microsoft LifeCam VX-3000 (ubuntu Gutsy)

but in MAC OSx 10.5.2 Video okay no audio..lol



massyn wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 08:41
It's probably an issue with Rode, rather than with Ubuntu, but I would like to use my Rode Podcaster mic on Linux...

corpuscallosum wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 10:52
i think that one is pretty important problem, if you have family or friend in foreign country. cant recog. my internel cam on my laptop

Kreuger wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 17:32
My webcam works fine with the PWC drivers and the built in microphone works with Audacity but I voted for this anyway.

alexer wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 19:14
I have a Genius. is also not recognized. I see a green screen or infrared!!!!!

r00tzz wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 14:38
a better webcam support would be great.
the quality of my cam only bad.

treglia wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 22:00
We need a better webcam support especially on the laptop (built-in webcam)

Eldmannen wrote on the 7 Mar 08 at 01:28
Webcam is important so girls can show me their titties!

i8bugs wrote on the 10 Mar 08 at 11:25
The simple operation of plugging in a USB microphone becomes an exercise in days or weeks (in my case) of searching for hacks to make it work. What's the point in having a great program like audacity if you don't have an input source? After 2 months of trying to configure my microphone for use, I gave up. This should have been fixed 2 years ago.
THANKS...dm

Geoffl wrote on the 6 May 08 at 01:32
With so many variations of webcam, would it be possible to use the NDIS WRAPPER approach and create a "wrapper" so that Windows drivers, that are freely available, may be used?

Could this approach also work for other, miscellaneous hardware that also attaches via USB?

Geoff

TWO wrote on the 6 May 08 at 06:28
Webcams on (K)Ubuntu have been a complete nightmare! I have poor quality picture which goes all sorts of strange colours. My webcam could not be any more generic either. Worse thing is that there just isn't a simple way to install/ change the codecs.

damienlaughton wrote on the 29 May 08 at 14:48
microphone detection for me has been an utter nightmare. What doesn't help is the seemingly arcane mixer interfaces. Also upgrading to Hardy managed to finally break audacity playback which I still haven't managed to find a fix for. Compare this experience to using windows. Plug-in and it just works. Options if you have any are in plain language (gnome-mixer justs asks the device for it's name so I get CA:1093 or whatever). Just for a second, consider the numpty user's conundrum - use windows and have it work without almost any thought or use Linux and have it not work even after apparently using every combination of check box imaginable). Sigh I currently record screencasts in rmd (xvidcap broke at hardy); neither rmd nor xvidcap can find my usb microphone yet audacity can. However audacity wont playback the recording so I have to export the recording to check it. Shambles. If my subject matter wasn't Linux-orientated (kinda) then I would have broke camp long ago. Don't even start me on how slick a Mac is either! ;-)


tebibyte wrote on the 9 Jun 08 at 19:02
firewire camcorders should also be supported. It shouldn't be this hard to set up a 1394 webcam. It should just work.

meka4996 wrote on the 22 Jun 08 at 21:46
too many issues with microphone capture volume: sound card driver, analog noise, google "ubuntu USB Microphone Logitech/Plantronics/Rocketfish"

YannickDefais wrote on the 24 Jun 08 at 09:31
Hello,

Ekiga is under heavy changes. We are close to release a beta for version 3.0.

Ekiga has support for all API regarding webcams (v4l and v4l2), as well as firewire cameras (dc and avc). There is also special fix built in for some webcams.

Screenshot: http://blog.ekiga.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/ekiga3_video.png
Easy install of our current work (.deb packages): http://snapshots.ekiga.net/

Best regards,
Yannick

Horux wrote on the 18 Aug 08 at 09:09
Hello, i'm From Venezuela Country, My webcam is also NOT recognized. It is a Genius VideoCam look

andrewmin wrote on the 25 Aug 08 at 15:32
Intrepid should fix a lot of the webcam problems with the new kernel.

nitrofurano wrote on the 1 Sep 08 at 21:35
The only webcams i have available are the Apple-Macbook iSight and Mustek gSmart Mini - i still have no idea about how can get each working as webcam, even after lots of tries, following forums, documentations, etc.

Ubuwu wrote on the 25 Sep 08 at 20:24
In the current situation, intrepid will cause a lot of webcam problems, because the kernel part has been changed, but v4l which is needed is not yet packaged, and all programs using the webcam need to be patched. It remains to be seen if this gets fixed in time.

mitcoes wrote on the 3 Oct 08 at 12:09
As there are a wrapper for wifi windows drivers, why not develop a wrapper for windows drivers for USB cams?

Auzy wrote on the 3 Oct 08 at 12:30
I agree with the developers here. Long term, UVC will take over, which means every webcam getting released in the future will most likely work. Logitech's better webcams at the moment use UVC. Its not a perfect fix, but UVC finally gives developers a chance to catch up on older webcams, which is great. So long term, we are looking good.

UVC in laymans terms means 1 driver, works with all UVC webcams. Vista and OSX already use it for their OS, so that people dont need to install drivers for their webcam to work.

sibidiba wrote on the 14 Oct 08 at 19:23
I'm very frustrated now, because I'm a long-term Linux-only user, but now I'm abroad with a good laptop and still have to install windows, as sound recording just does not work with the snd-hda-intel driver and I really need to use Skype to keep in touch with people.
I mean, working sound I/O is absolutely crucial today.

https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SndHdaIntelSoundProblems

Yfrwlf wrote on the 24 Nov 08 at 15:19
Searching for UVC webcams on various sites doesn't give too many hits, I guess sometimes that feature isn't listed, but here is a great list of webcams that are WORKING with the UVC Linux driver!

http://linux-uvc.berlios.de/#devices

mnemo wrote on the 20 Mar 09 at 12:42
This bug report tracks Microdia inclusion in Ubuntu. Basicallt the problem is that Ubuntu kernel devs says that they prefer it to be in the mainline kernel first:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/87054

Anyway, here is a status comment from one of the core Microdia developers (describing mainline inclusion progress as of Feburary 18th 2009):
http://groups.google.com/group/microdia/browse_thread/thread/c97a89f79634a516?p li=1

Note that at least 22 new webcams are marked as SUPPORTED in the microdia tree. These cams work pretty well and have worked pretty well for some time. What's is needed is that someone submits the code to mainline and fixes all the issues that mainline kernel devs point out.

anystupidname wrote on the 8 Aug 09 at 19:00
Yea, for example, this asus Z83V that I've had for about 5 years has a TV tuner and USB webcam built in.

03:02.0 Multimedia video controller: Internext Compression Inc iTVC16 (CX23416) MPEG-2 Encoder (rev 01)
0402:5602 ALi Corp. Video Camera Controller

Jaunty didn't support either device out of the box at all.

I just updated to karmic alpha3 and it went way smoother than I thought it would. The tv tuner is still not working though and the driver that I had compiled manually to get the webcam working in jaunty got replaced with a driver that works but the picture sucks so I'm going to have to try compiling and using the driver manually again. Bah...

cheesehead (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 28 Apr 11 at 00:17
Please report hardware that doesn't work to the Ubuntu Bug Tracker. Driver issues are considered bugs, and can be squashed.
Closing in Brainstorm.


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