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The modern bootloader should automatically detect installed operating systems and show them as icons. Keep it simple. Only show the icons with the name of the os in center and a black background.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 5 Jun 08 at 17:05
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Automatic detection would be pretty cool.
But icons, no thanks.
I rather see the bootloader is minimalistic, stable, bug-free, and very fast and efficient. Not seen or heard, just works. No bloat.
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steve196 wrote on the 5 Jun 08 at 17:41
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Please no automisdetection in the bootloader! There are enough potential problem sources already.
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Popoi wrote on the 5 Jun 08 at 19:02
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Icons will be cool. :)
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Auzy wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 02:26
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You should vote for grub2 guys. http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/8143/
Grub2 has scripting support, removes stage 1.5, supports plugins, and, it seems to have a movie folder in the repo, so it seems very powerful.
And its cross platform. This way we could script our own autodetection.
PS Steve196, there are more problems WITHOUT searching for partitions, namely when u shift drives around in the computer, your grub entries no longer works. Autodetection would get around that. And Autodetection works fine for Apple.
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steve196 wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 05:56
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The mac comes preassembled by the company that wrote the software. That is why they can anticipate any hardware setup and their autodetection reliably works.
For a taste of what autodetection would do on Ubuntu, try the screen resolution autodetection on several different monitors.
How often do you shift drives around? I think those few times you can just edit menu.lst. It is not that much work.
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Auzy wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 06:33
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Apple's special hardware actually has nothing to do with it steve196.
Grub performs exactly the same type of autodetection, AND it checks partitions. It needs to! Otherwise it cant act on (HD#,#PARTITION). Obviously it needs to identify all Partitions and HDD's to do that. We already do that just fine...
The only thing that needs to be added is plugins to check for key files, to work out how to boot it (if its windows, if its linux, if there is a bootloader). Thats all Apple has done, nothing special. They have built the "grub-install" equivilent program into their bootloader.
And lots of people shift drives around. Grub could even theoretically commit suicide if you plug-in an eSata drive, or remove a drive. This is the only way we can guarentee that whatever a user does with their computer, it will still boot. We don't want grub to fail AT ALL!!!. And we don't want users bitching they cant use an external non-hotplug drive (such as an old SCSI one), because their computer wont boot with it in (as the HDD configuration has changed).
Make the autodetection script for Grub2 available for people who want it, and use it by default. All advanced users to override this behavior during install. I guarentee, every newbie will want to use it, and those of us who believe that the days of editing config files is over. I for one, NEVER want my grub to fail.
Everyone wins, including you Steve. I win, and so does linux usability.
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glibik wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 07:14
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Icons for a boot loader ... Hhhmmmm ...
Seems to me like eye candy for the sake of eye candy. :-(
As Eldmannen suggests, a bootloader should simply, work.
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cognatus wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 13:47
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There is a bootloader called GAG, I believe... http://gag.sourceforge.net/pics.html I haven't tried it, and I doubt it has autodetect support, but maybe that can be added in? In any case it haf de purdy iCawns... on the other hand it's called "GAG". YMMV :P
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