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By integrating ndiswrapper + an ndigwrapper gui into the network manager, setting up wifi drivers will be a whole lot easier. The user would not need to know what ndiswrapper is or where to find it or how to install it -- all they'd need is their wifi card .inf file.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 25 May 08 at 22:36
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ndiswrapper is just a hack.
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Auzy wrote on the 26 May 08 at 01:52
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Whats the alternative Eldmannen?
It might be a hack, but I'd rather have wireless support via Ndiswrapper by default, so i can actually use my system without a ethernet cable at all, then have no internet.
Because without it, there are no ported drivers yet for me!
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mysticmatrix wrote on the 27 May 08 at 11:11
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The alternative is to buy a laptop with supported Wi-Fi card, like one form Intel, or get a cheap external USB card.
Moreover, I doubt the legality of bundling 100's of .inf file in a package. I don't think any of the company would allow that.
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Auzy wrote on the 27 May 08 at 11:36
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Mysticmatrix. Do me and favor and find me any 802.11n card with linux support. Thats why I purchased mine. I agree that maybe we cant have all the inf's, but at the least, make them easy to install
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Xero Xenith wrote on the 27 May 08 at 23:24
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Hell. Yes.
Seeing as 8.10 is going to be largely concentrated on portables, this should - no, NEEDS to be in there.
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mysticmatrix wrote on the 29 May 08 at 21:28
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Auzy
http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/
Here you go. I don't know where you live, but I bought a Dell laptop with Intel PRO/Wireless 2915ABG and it works out of the box for me atleast.
As for external addon card, you can check
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
Hope it works out.
Please understand that getting hacks like Ndiswrapper will only reduce the urge for manufacturer to ever support Linux at all. Also, as new features emerge, and new standard establish, you might just run out of luck if Ndiswrapper can't support you.
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mysticmatrix wrote on the 29 May 08 at 21:54
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Oh I missed the 802.11n part. For that I guess you'd had to use Intel 4965AGN. There are some hiccups it seems(from google), but they can be fixed by installing a backport module and WiCD.
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etniesbmx wrote on the 30 May 08 at 03:16
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Okay, the idea about bundling all the .inf's is definitely not possible/legal, but please -- join the real world and realize that people don't want to buy new hardware to use Ubuntu/Linux. We're talking about basic wireless cards that aren't working by default. Why not use this "hack" if it works!!?
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Auzy wrote on the 30 May 08 at 04:47
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yeah, the intel one I think came out much later unfortunately (or at the very least, nobody sold them as PCIe Cards). But that is the one I will be using for my car PC.
Unfortunately, my current one is atheros (a new chip which maybe is finally just getting support in madwifi).
This is also why I believe we need to improve the Driver module installation, or release install CD's moer often with updated drivers. Because to install ndiswrapper or madwifi for me, I need to use a dodgy bridge with ethernet, or do other things.
Either way, ndiswrapper would make it more manageable.
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Crandom wrote on the 31 May 08 at 20:44
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Please, please, please, please do this. Everytime I install Ubuntu I must install ndiswrapper for my rare broadcom card - a BCM43185MPG that bcm43xx, b43, and ssb fail at even recognising. The windows driver i use works _perfectly_.
There would be some legal issues with distrubing the drivers though, and it would take away the need for the native driver production.
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lavinog wrote on the 1 Jun 08 at 22:23
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I currently have to use ndiswrapper, but I do not think bloating network manager with ndiswrapper is a good idea. Maybe just have a button that pulls up the ndiswrapper ui (like the screensaver can pull up the power saving ui)
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shovelhead wrote on the 2 Jun 08 at 10:51
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I am one lucky guy, because Wireless worked from the very first second on my notebook. I then learned, this is because I happen to own a quality USB stick with a good chipset that is supported in the kernel (zd1211).
I then started to buy four of those sticks on ebay - they are between 3 and 10 Euro, depending on the luck and market.
I would NEVER ever install a crappy win driver, if I can get quality hardware running for 3 Euro!
-1
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Fevrin wrote on the 4 Jun 08 at 02:31
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I got burned with my Buffalo wireless-n USB adapter as well. Of course, I got it before I switched to Ubuntu, but not even ndiswrapper has helped, so I've resorted to using an old Hawking PCI adapter based on RT2500.
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sciurus wrote on the 7 Jun 08 at 03:10
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Voted down. The proper place to integrate this would be jockey (System->Administration->Hardware Drivers).
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Calvin wrote on the 17 Jun 08 at 03:44
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+1 for having NDISwrapper with ndisgtk/ndisgui installed by default so i can set it up on systems that don't have ethernet capability, but don't put Windows drivers in Ubuntu as that's just un-needed bloat for the 1000's of cards out there. 1000x10KB turns into a lot.
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