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Hi.
I am new in the world of Ubuntu(still in the dual boot phase), and i wonder why there areat least 2 repositories add/remove and synaptic...and others...???
My suggestion is either to make an one GUI to manage them, or simply just to consolidate all programs in one single repo!
(their might be a reason for having more repos, but it does not make sence to me... ;-) )
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Plet wrote on the 15 May 08 at 21:31
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Please comment on this one! ...I really do not understand the reason fore several repos!!
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Primož Papič wrote on the 15 May 08 at 21:53
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add/remove and synaptic are just two different frontends for one backend: apt-get.
add/remove is for easy installation;
synaptic is for advanced package searching.
So there have to be two applications.
The other method is to go to terminal and write apt-get install program that you want...
You should really ask this question on forum first, here there is a big possibility that you would be voted down.
0 from me.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 15 May 08 at 22:01
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Those are not separate repositories.
Those are two applications using the same repository.
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Plet wrote on the 15 May 08 at 22:04
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True with the forum part!
Maybe there is a teknical reason, but just for having more complex packages does that mean that a total different repo, and more important a different interface is needed??
- It still doesn't make sence to me if they are two different frontends for one backend, and then it is not possible to manage it from one single interface...
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peterjs wrote on the 15 May 08 at 23:39
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As stated above Add/Remove and Synaptic are just different front ends to the APT package system. Why are there multiple tools? Because people have different needs. Add/Remove is for people that don't understand, and don't want to understand, package management, but just want a nice pretty point and click way to install software. Synaptic provides a much more spartan but powerful tool. If you removed Add/Remove, people would complain that Synaptic is too complex, if you Removed/Add people would complain they couldn't get any work done.
As for why it may appear they're drawing for different sources, synaptic by design includes everything: fonts, libraries, documentation, artwork, and programs, while add/remove on the other hand only includes programs.
There are in fact multiple repositories as well. Ubuntu (Canonical) sponsors 5 main repositories: main, restricted, partner, universe, and multiverse. You can buy commercial support the elements in main, restricted, and partner. The elements in restricted, partner, and multiverse do no fall under the Debian Free Software guidelines. And then there are third party repositories for things still in development, like AWN, or things that Canonical can not legally be associated with, like Medibuntu.
There's a time and a place for questions, and Brainstorm isn't it, try the forums next time.
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Plet wrote on the 16 May 08 at 06:40
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I still stick with the one interface sugestion...
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Primož Papič wrote on the 16 May 08 at 08:16
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Your stubbornness just cost you my vote.
-1
I might be a bit "conservative" but I think there should be two apps one for easy installing and other for advanced.
Plus it's quite hard to encompass both in one app the user friendliness and advance package searching
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jdennis_99 wrote on the 16 May 08 at 09:33
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Plet:
I know what you mean, but the two interfaces do serve different purposes for different users. It would be useful if they were consolidated, but treated as 'Standard' and 'Advanced' modes. This would just be for tidiness, rather than representing any major change in the functionality. However, given the fact that the developers have other things to work on, I can't really see this as being treated as a priority!
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Plet wrote on the 19 May 08 at 17:50
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Hi jdennis_99.
Thanks for your constructive critisim. I see your point! You are right that deveopers have more urgent work to do.
I hope that in the future when/if Ubuntu gets out to more users and in later versions of the OS that developers will see the point in consolidating the repos for the sake of new-commers.
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Folk_Theory wrote on the 23 Jul 08 at 19:31
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the repos are consolidated. the frontends are not and theres no reason why they should. theres two more. apt-get which is a command line one and aptittude that can be used as command line text or ncurses
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