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Idea #8440: Second Language switch (immigrants and students of new languages)

Written by employeeno5 the 12 May 08 at 19:29. Category: Accessibility. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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It's fantastic that Ubuntu is available in so many languages.

It would be really cool if there were a simple way to have two language packs installed at the same time and simple way to switch between them while using the operating system.

For example, if I set up a Ubuntu computer for a refugee family here in the States that is still learning English, they could use Ubuntu in English, but if they did not understand something they could click an icon or something to "switch on" their native language.

Imagine how helpful being able to compare and contrast a tool tip in two different languages would be to someone learning to speak a new language.

This could make the computer easier to use while also serving as a valuable and practical tool in learning a new language. This could benefit a whole range of students of new languages.
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Written by employeeno5 the 12 May 08 at 19:29.
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Runn3r.cZe wrote on the 12 May 08 at 19:35
don't think OS is the best think where people should learn new language...

oxygene wrote on the 12 May 08 at 20:50
The idea could be useful in order to learn computer oriented language ! I say + 1

Mike Graham wrote on the 12 May 08 at 21:18
This should NOT be an out-of-the-box option.

Software to enable this sort of feature should exist.

Voted Yes.

XVIIarcano wrote on the 13 May 08 at 07:17
If I know 4 languages, and I have a job being 23 in a country where unemployement is the rule among people of my age, it might depend a lot from the fact that when I was a kid my parents gave me ye olde Amiga500, unfriendly interface (for a 7yo!) and just english, learn the language or give up.

Frankly I think that this idea has a lot of potential, espacially (but not only) in educational environments... plus I'd love to toy with such tool myself ;)

knb wrote on the 13 May 08 at 09:34
My experience is that changing language settings tends to create inconsistencies and breaks things. It is more of a nuisance than a great learning experience.

This also has implications on a deeper level ... should only the labels, menu items in the text be changed (GUI items only), or also the help commands?
Should environment variables be reset to the new language? Should printer settings be changed?
Should entries in /etc files be changed? Probably not by a regular (non-admin) user.

This proposal could be interesting ... maybe it is a feature for edubuntu only.

XVIIarcano wrote on the 13 May 08 at 13:44
@knb, I perfectly agree that it is not a simple task, and it is a lot of work but still it is intriguing, not a priority anyway, that's sure.

A nice implementation would be a "per window" switch, limited to gui items (assuming that if one dabbles with the terminal is at least a bit tech savy and thus cannot be completely unaware of english as well)

Example: I am italian but I use the system in english beacuse I want to learn it, but suddenly I get the XYZ error message which is too tecnical for me... i right click on the window decoration and among "minimize", "maximize" and "always on top" I also have an "italian" option, so I can read the error and understand what's going on.

holizz wrote on the 13 May 08 at 16:01
+1

It would be impossible or at least impractical to change the locale in currently-running applications, at least from the point-of-view of Ubuntu as a whole, but it should be possible to launch certain applications in a different locale (and probably to restart gnome-panel, metacity/compiz, and nautilus in the new locale).

But it should be pretty useful for language learners.

Magnes wrote on the 13 May 08 at 16:07
Hm... Isn't it easy already? Just install whatever languages you need and switch them in GDM (login screen).

rouge568 wrote on the 13 May 08 at 18:46
Magnes: this would be on-the-fly language switching.

I think that this is an absolutely brilliant idea. SCIM should also tie into this so your typing language also changes.

xzenome wrote on the 2 Jan 09 at 23:32
You can almost do this at the moment. If you launch an application from the command line then, you can specify and installed locale.

user@computer:~$ LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 rhythmbox

The above command would launch rhythmbox in German. It'd be cool if it could be done at runtime, but I don't think it would be popular enough to justify the masses of work that it'd need. Give this a try. I use it for some of my apps that I don't usually have problems with, but keep the rest in English.


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