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    <title><![CDATA[TrueCrypt along with Ubuntu]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/8405/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[TrueCrypt is a high standard secure method of storing data supporting many high level encryption levels. http://www.truecrypt.org/screenshots.php<br />It should be implemented as encrypting an entire partition is not very practical these days. Only some data are important and the others are just data. I use TrueCrypt and it is extremely fast though it encrypts files on the fly. No latency what so ever.<br />
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<b>[259 votes] Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #8405</b>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 07:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from steve196</title>
  <description><![CDATA[What is the advantage compared with dm-crypt?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ravindranathakila</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Ease of use, the levels of encryption against vulnerabilities. Ability to use files as hard disks. Platform independence of these files. On the fly encryption. Clipboard safety.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 08:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from iampriteshdesai</title>
  <description><![CDATA[No DONT DO THAT!!!<br />Hell Truecrypt is harder than the terminal to use. Only geeks can use it. It is hard.I hate truecrypt. Only National defence academy should use it!!!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Auzy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/575/<br /><br />Dupe]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 09:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from a3_nm</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Duplicate : http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/2787/]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 10:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Eldmannen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[TrueCrypt uses its own vanity license.<br /><br />"TrueCrypt Collective License".<br /><br />I guess its not FSF or OSI approved.<br /><br />So I vote no.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Auzy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[With that being said, maybe not by default. <br /><br />But, why should all our licensing decisions require approval from OSI for FSF? They kinda slow us down.. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 13:43:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from steve196</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think, this idea should be changed into "better documentation for dm-crypt" since dm-crypt is already in by default and all the "advantages" of truecrypt are things that, in reality, dm-crypt can do too, only people do not know that.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 14:10:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Asa.Ayers</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I'm voting this down because of the license. I like truecrypt and I use it, but if its going to be in Ubuntu they need to change the license.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:35:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Eldmannen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Auzy,<br />OSI defines the "open source definition" and the FSF defines the "free software definition".<br />They're the authority on free open source software.<br />Using OSI-approved and FSF-approved licenses ensures that our OS is really free and open.<br />Else everyone can come with their custom licenses and talk about being free and open, when they're really not.<br /><br />Asa.Ayers, indeed. Agree.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 21:10:18 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Auzy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[yeah Eldmannen, but who says their license wont be approved.. Maybe we should ask them to submit the license to see]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ravindranathakila</title>
  <description><![CDATA[TrueCrypt is very easy to use. Just "truecrypt" in command line will launch the GUI. License they might agree to change. We have to ask and see first. My only argument is that it is an industry standard software. I have been using many of these tools since years. Magic Folders, Folder Lock etc. This is the best by far. And OS independence is good too. USB support is another added feature. It is a real requirement these days to have a portable set of important data on USBs of our workplaces. Therefore this should be considered. Maybe a change of license from their side would be welcome...   ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 04:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from HDave</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I mount several Truecrypt volumes from both Windows and Ubuntu.  The program is robust, secure, and extremely simple to use.<br /><br />Excuse my ignorance, but I don't think dm-crypt has a nice GUI, can be mounted from windows, supports plausible deniability, support keyfiles, nor has as many cipher options.<br /><br />What do we have to do to get the FSF to approve their license?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 02:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from malathion</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Burying this because TrueCrypt is not free software.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 15:40:09 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Lukehasnoname</title>
  <description><![CDATA[>>malathion wrote on the 15 May 08 at 15:40 <br />>>Burying this because TrueCrypt is not free software. <br /><br />Actually, it is, as far s I can tell. Taking the time to read the license:<br />---It has the "share and share alike" provision, similar to GPL (Source code distribution)<br />---The mentions of Intellectual Property are solely intended to protect the name "Truecrypt"<br />---Ubuntu is allowed to use Truecrypt's name as stated in Section III.2<br />---Distributors must grant indemnity to users of the software<br /><br />Most of the bloat in the license is protection of the "Truecrypt" name and 'No liability' stuff. <br /><br />Would it be more friendly if they had a standard license?<br />Yes. <br />Is it evil or wrong that they have a custom license?<br />No.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 18:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from malathion</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Hmm, looks like they have indeed modified the license greatly (which I admit I haven't looked at in a long time). Seems OK to me. Too bad I can't change my vote, but it looks like this is getting enough ups as it is.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 01:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tgape</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Ok, I've read the TrueCrypt License version 2.4.  That license is ridiculous.  I suspect it was written by someone who has read a lot of license documents, but has not otherwise studied law recently to a significant degree.  Very noticeable is the apparent belief that one needs to explicitly state that a license to copy is not a license to use or abuse a trademark...<br /><br />For those curious what I'm talking about: in section II, it expressly forbids incorporating TrueCrypt in another product.  Then, in section III.1, it lists six different requirements, a third of which Ubuntu cannot meet, and at least a third of which would actually be detrimental to the TrueCrypt product thus incorporated.  In section III.2, it specifically exempts distributions from the two thirds of the section III.1 requirements which are problematic.<br /><br />While it appears that Ubuntu would be able to distribute this package without issue, given this license, I personally would not want to risk it.  It just feels to me like a lawsuit waiting to happen.<br /><br />Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer.  I'm just a programmer who has reviewed a lot of court cases, and read a lot of licenses.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 20:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from FranciscoPadillaGarcia</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think TrueCrypt guys didn't want to use the GNU license because they wanted their product to be used by everyone --including proprietary companies--. So, what they can do is release it under the GNU Lesser Public License.<br /><br />Let's talk to them.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:39:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from massond</title>
  <description><![CDATA[There already is encryption in Ubuntu.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 03:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ravindranathakila</title>
  <description><![CDATA[massond having encryption already does not mean we have portable files acting as hard disks which are encrypted! Never the same. TrueCrypts files can be encrypted, can be mounted on many os's etc. It is also clipboard safe. Mounting requires password. Extremely secure!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2008 08:21:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Dorkus Prime</title>
  <description><![CDATA[re: There already is encryption in Ubuntu.<br /><br />. . . and there was already an OS on my computer before I installed Ubuntu.<br /><br />Brainstorm isn't about bowing to the status-quo, but seeking the best options possible.  If you mean to say that the current encryption software is somehow better, though, that's an entirely different argument.<br /><br />Having used both dm-crypt and TrueCrypt, I'm voting up . . . with the hope that they'd be willing to adjust their license.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from steve196</title>
  <description><![CDATA[>massond having encryption already does not mean we have portable files acting as hard disks which are encrypted! Never the same. TrueCrypts files can be encrypted, can be mounted on many os's etc. It is also clipboard safe. Mounting requires password. Extremely secure!<br /><br />dm-crypt has ALL of that including being mounted under other OS. If that are the reasons to add truecrypt, then there are no reasons at all.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 17:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from saivann</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I marked this idea as a duplicate of idea 1558 since we should start by including truecrypt to repositories.<br /><br />Considering the current license, it *looks* legally possible to redistribute truecrypt so this package might be accepted in restricted repositories. <br /><br />The first step to have a package included in ubuntu is to open a bug report in bugs.launchpad.net. Truecrypt bug report is already opened and being discussed.<br /><br />https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/109701]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 17:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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