http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/84/
On Windows pressing either Ctrl+Alt+Del or Ctrl/Shift/Esc brings up the Task Manager.

[1650 votes] Solution #1: Ctrl+Alt+Del and Ctrl+Shift+Esc


[30 votes] Solution #2: Map Ctrl+Alt+Del to gnome-system-monitor


[16 votes] Solution #3: Map Ctrl+Shift+Esc to gnome-system-monitor


[7 votes] Solution #4: Extend the Shutdown-Dialog with sysmon-Button


[2 votes] Solution #5: Addition to #4: Extend Shutdown-Dialog with "Restart X"-Button


[2 votes] Solution #6: ctr+alt+supr must be pause others processes


]]> en-us Thu, 28 Feb 2008 16:55:59 +0000 Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:55:20 +0000 QAPoll module http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/84/ Thu, 28 Feb 2008 17:03:57 +0000 if we do it all exact it won't be different, so it won't be better!
I know it's not an issue that makes it better or not but it is a tendence, a tendence to avoid!
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It would be nice if either Ctrl + Alt + Del, Ctrl + Esc either brought up either the Task manager or Force Quit. Sometimes you can't get to either of those buttons on your desktop.

Yes, Ctrl + Alt + Backspace does work in desperate situations. But, it should be reserved for absolute desperate situations.]]> Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:08:39 +0000 Ctrl+Esc sounds good, ctrl+shift+esc was always awkward…]]> Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:41:13 +0000 I come from the 3D world. Programs like Modo and XSI have their own shorcuts, but they give the user the option of using shortcut presets from other apps they might be moving from. Eg. Maya or 3dsMax

Under:
System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts

You'd have an option of selecting from a series of Keyboard shortcut presets. (Windows, Mac, Custom, etc)

It would be handy if the presets could be saved and shared as well.

This would be good for users coming from any other OS, not just for Windows users.]]> Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:02:35 +0000 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 00:47:55 +0000
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Here is a suggestion for one way it might work:

1. Press Ctrl+Alt+Del one time: the system (motherboard) speaker emits a short beep, and the Task Manager pops up. This conforms to the expectation that pressing Ctrl+Alt+Del one time is harmless.

2. In the situation that the Task Manager does not pop up, because the GUI is unresponsive, it would be natural to try Ctrl+Alt+Del a second time. So if nothing happens, press Ctrl+Alt+Del a second time. The speaker emits two short beeps, and the X server is restarted. Perhaps it would be good to display a dialog first with the message "Are you sure you want to restart the X server?" Of course, if the GUI is unresponsive, the message will not be seen, and restart should be automatic.

3. If still nothing happens, press Ctrl+Alt+Del for the third time. The speaker emits three short beeps, and the system reboots.

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I also do not think it's useful to launch the gnome task manager, since it is an extremely resource-hungry application (compared to NT's task manager), and generally would only make the situation worse. We need something that operates on a real-time basis.

People should be made aware of the SysRq functions. These are extremely useful for solving such issues. (Try Alt-SysRq-H from a VT to see available options.) It would be nice if these could be used from within X, but I'm not sure how this could be accomplished.]]> Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:02:44 +0000
Default mapping to bring up a task manager isn't a horrible idea. I mean what if linux chose to make ctrl+c, ctrl+x, and ctrl+v completely different. Why mess with default mappings that most people are used to just for the hell of it. Now that is stupid.]]> Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:33:02 +0000
I suggest those that were bitching about having Ctrl Alt Delete to learn something about computer history, Ctrl+ALt+Del was invented by IBM and then made famous by Bill gates and microsoft's bad OS commonly known ad Windows.

I do agree with hackel about gnome-system-monitor eating ram/cpu and even when not trying to recover from a crash/hang..... ie: firefox or java....

Please don't reinvent the wheel if its not broken don't fix....
See..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here

Thanks]]> Fri, 29 Feb 2008 12:12:33 +0000 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 14:40:47 +0000
First, whether anyone likes it or not there is a significant base of existing users who are familiar with the Ctrl-Alt-Del shortcut (CAD). For decades CAD has suggested "Rescue me!" to users of DOS and Windows when the system encounters serious trouble with an application. People---lots of people---know CAD; it has even inspired scads of humour and levity in popular culture. That key combination in particular is something familiar to many, and I think there is probably an expectation amongst most who are ignorant of other systems that any computer should have CAD function in a similar fashion to Windows.

Second, I think it's important to note that some form of keyboard-accessible rescue function is desirable. All things being equal it's irrelevant whether the shortcut in question is Ctrl-Alt-Del or something else entirely, or whether said shortcut brings up the system monitor or just kills the current process or whatnot. So long as there is some way to recover from serious application failures without having to have access to the graphical interface.

All things, however, are not equal. Ctrl-Alt-Del is an established convention on Windows and DOS before it, and besides emotional reasons presented above ("We should avoid doing what Windows does!"), I see no sufficiently compelling reason not to be interoperable and consistent with a popular, established system with which many users---users who will probably encounter trouble and require quick help---are long familiar.

Whether CAD on Ubuntu brings up the Gnome system monitor or not is largely immaterial, so long as it brings up -something- that will help users who need help. Certainly the system monitor will do in a pinch. If the Ubuntu interface designers can come up with something better, fantastic; if not, at least we have something.

In the end no one loses anything by Ctrl-Alt-Del actually doing something rather than being useless, and lots of people will gain something very important: a lifeline in times of trouble. The way I see it, it's the human thing to do.]]> Fri, 29 Feb 2008 17:06:19 +0000 Fri, 29 Feb 2008 21:53:33 +0000
Adding ctrl+alt+delete functionality to gnome will in no way whatsoever be a problem to any regular user of gnome as we never press ctrl+alt+delete. However, it will be of massive benefit to a new user who comes from using windows on a regular basis.

Ubuntu is an operating system for everyone, not just hardcore Linux users, and is a *real* chance to make a change, something which we should embrace. Not including the ctrl+alt+delte keystroke simply makes it harder for new users, which is in my opinion very silly indeed especially considering there are no real downsides to including it.

This also has nothing to do with the inventor of the keystroke. I think he regretted inventing it because of windows 95/98 etc making it reboot the computer, not brining up the task manager.]]> Sat, 01 Mar 2008 05:33:44 +0000 Sat, 01 Mar 2008 22:05:01 +0000
mimicking many things from windows misleads the user into expecting an unreasonable amount of familiarity.

we should select a reasonable default hotkey for this function, but we should decide what it will be by considering factors other than "how windows does it".]]> Sun, 02 Mar 2008 05:37:47 +0000
Ubuntu is Linux for Human Beings; it is an indisputable fact that the majority of said beings who are considering Ubuntu have used windows.

kenr _NAILED_ what we need to do; do what he says-- I'd just like to add that the super key needs to bring down the Applications menu. Too windows like? SO. WHAT. Tell me, what key /does/ bring down the Applications menu? What key combo /does/ open the system monitor? Why does /that/ need to be different? Should we change alt+tab to something else.. just to not be windows like? Absolutely not!
-that is all.]]> Sun, 02 Mar 2008 06:50:25 +0000
It's a good Idea to have emergently touchs for have an panel of applications running]]> Sun, 02 Mar 2008 07:29:59 +0000
Lets face it, Ubuntu is a beginners distribution. And little things like this will greatly make Ubuntu easier.]]> Sun, 02 Mar 2008 08:00:58 +0000 Sun, 02 Mar 2008 12:53:30 +0000
The Ctrl+Alt+Delete shortcut is NOT USED in Ubuntu and I doubt a significant number of users have set it up for some of the apps they use. AND Ubuntu already has Gnome System Monitor. Just associate Ctrl+Alt+Delete with Gnome System Monitor in Ubuntu and you've improved usability.

OR provide another default keyboard shortcut. But since there is none right now and many users will expect Ctrl+Alt+Del, why not just use it?]]> Sun, 02 Mar 2008 20:58:55 +0000 #2050]]> Mon, 03 Mar 2008 15:38:54 +0000 Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:03:58 +0000
Puhleze. We should make Ctrl+Alt+Del restart the system, like it does in Runlevel 1 ;)

Seriously though, I think this belays a deeper problem – Gnome doesn't have a nice, unified way to change keyboard shortcuts across all applications. Like Mac OS X.]]> Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:19:41 +0000
Hook it up to something useful like the System Monitor by default, but also make the sysmon less heavy/slow to start.

Sometimes being like Windows (and most BIOS) is a _good_ thing.]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 15:41:19 +0000 There's different for the same of being better.

Since system-level shortcuts can't be "better" (unless there's some conflict/risk they avoid). Then there is no point in being different at all.

Lets copy every shortcut we can to make it the friendliest system for human beings (who arrive here with previous knowledge in almost every case).]]> Sat, 08 Mar 2008 06:04:12 +0000 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:38:45 +0000 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 17:25:44 +0000 Mon, 17 Mar 2008 12:03:56 +0000
Under:
System->Preferences->Keyboard Shortcuts

You'd have an option of selecting from a series of Keyboard shortcut presets. (Windows, Mac, Custom, etc)

It would be handy if the presets could be saved and shared as well.


>>good idea]]> Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:34:01 +0000
Compiz's modifier keys can't be used together. so Ctrl+Alt+Del doesn't work.

Ubuntu Studio went through several long chats in many places about this and in the end we will use Ctrl+F1 to launch gnome-system-monitor. We set this for Metacity and Compiz.

Works fine and is a easy combo that works across all types of keyboards.]]> Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:26:22 +0000
This (with program installation, and flash support) is one of the main issues that keeps me from advising my friends to make the switch. It shouldn't be too hard to implement compared to other features, and I am frankly appalled that Ubuntu has gotten this far with usability while totally ignoring CAD. We all know Ubuntu needs work in terms of reducing the number of fixes that demand the terminal (or are needed at all), but this one is just a no-brainer.

Ctrl-Alt-Del just makes sense as a hotkey because it works ergonomically: (1) its the sort of thing you only press when you mean to because it uses two hands and (2) the keys themselves make sense- Ctrl-Alt implies a system function of some kind, while Del has an air of finality in killing processes. So I don't know why people act like CAD was originally a poorly-chosen shortcut. Really, I can't think of a better one for such a task.

But as far as implementation- kenr has it right on. That's how we can improve over Windows. Basically, CAD becomes the shortcut you cycle through when you have any kind of lockup. With this improvement, beginners will find it even easier than Windows- because they will be able to restart the X-server instead of restarting (with no prior knowledge). But to make this usable, the System Monitor needs to be more efficient. When CPU usage is high, it should cut back on its activities. And of course, it should get a higher priority. As for alternative shortcuts (in addition, not instead of CAD), we can add more- and I especially suggest we add those in use in other operating systems. Still, they should work the same way to reduce confusion.]]> Tue, 29 Apr 2008 21:47:36 +0000
We can use Ctrl+Super(Windows button)+Supr. Its more or less the same.

And we need to put in "combinación de teclas" (mmm types combination?), Task Manager (monitor de sistema).

The option now is:

1-. Open the terminal (console) and type 2 things:

gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/
run_command_9 "Delete”

gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/
command_9 "gnome-system-monitor

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In terminal:

gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_9 "Delete"

gconftool-2 -t str --set /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_9 "gnome-system-monitor"]]> Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:12:30 +0000 , ]]> Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:16:34 +0000 ) that don't work in this page of brainstorm, then, I put the URL with the solution:

http://www.cristalab.com/tips/30214/activar-monitor-de-sistema-con-ctrl-alt-supr-en-ubuntu]]> Fri, 11 Jul 2008 15:17:26 +0000
If so, there should be nothing stopping a redesign of the C-A-D function.

I personally am very enthusiastic about using it as some kind of "general panic key" (as mentioned above), which in a simplistic manner brings up a few options:

- Show running processes (a.k.a. system monitor/task manager)
- Kill a specific process/window (graphically)
- Kill all non-default processes (Killing all that isn't set to start at logon)
- Restart graphical environment (a.k.a. C-A-BackSpace)
- Start virtual terminal
- Drop to terminal
- Restart computer
(These just some suggestions which seemed like a good idea)

Ideally, C-A-D would grey out everything and pop up a severe-looking window with these options (chosen via keys or mouse).]]> Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:34:09 +0000 kenr (29 Feb 08 at 04:15)
and
Ian Burnet (29 Apr 08 at 21:47)

CAD should become THE way to manage any kind of lockup.]]> Sun, 07 Sep 2008 23:27:23 +0000 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:10:53 +0000 Sun, 12 Oct 2008 05:29:13 +0000 By default, pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL should do something like bringing up System Monitor, but with the option to alter that to anything the user so desires, so that when setting up Ubuntu for yourself, or a person who is new to Ubuntu and used to Windows, you can choose a suitable action for pressing those keys.
Or it could be set to bring up a list of keyboard shortcuts, such as CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE, CTRL-ALT-F1, etc., so that users who are new know what to do. I have been using Ubuntu for over a year and am still learning the hidden parts like various keyboard shortcuts that do certain things that are not obvious when using Ubuntu, until you press the keys. ]]> Sat, 03 Jan 2009 19:49:08 +0000 Mon, 05 Jan 2009 06:44:01 +0000