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Idea #8306: Offer to install support for rar archives when user tries to uncompress one

Written by wladston the 9 May 08 at 20:27. Category: System. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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The same way that it's done now, when a user tries to view a divx movie.
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Written by wladston the 9 May 08 at 20:27.
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jhoger wrote on the 9 May 08 at 20:45
+1, Obvious

DAC1138 wrote on the 10 May 08 at 05:33
As an example, you mean when someone tries to open an unknown format and the proper program to view that file isn't installed, Ubuntu will seek the internet to see what app is used to open that file format and will download the appropriate application?

Auzy wrote on the 10 May 08 at 05:37
Actually, shouldn't rar be supported by default?

Rinzwind wrote on the 10 May 08 at 09:19
+1
Nothing more to add.

Rinzwind wrote on the 10 May 08 at 09:20
Hmm I do have a comment that might also be related to why it does not what we expext.

RAR is not a free product...

From WIKI:

In computing, RAR is a patented archive file format that supports data compression, error recovery, and file spanning. It was developed by Eugene Roshal (hence the name RAR: Roshal ARchive) and currently licensed by Win.RAR GmbH[1

ubuntu4fun wrote on the 10 May 08 at 10:32
Rinzwind wrote

"RAR is not a free product..."

7-Zip IS free and has the best compression ratio, but you have to install it when trying to open 7-Zip archives in Xubuntu 8.04. Could You explain me, WHY?


I don't know if this BUG is present in Ubuntu 8.04, too.

MentalNotes wrote on the 10 May 08 at 11:12
I think it's a great idea but some upstream work would be needed, especially for RAR files. See http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/4204/ which mentions adding support for unrar-free to file-roller.

There are two packages in Ubuntu that unpack RAR files, the original unrar which is non-free and unrar-free which is free software.

Similar situation with 7-Zip. 7-Zip is free but the RAR library distributed with it is not. That's why it's in three packages: p7zip, and p7zip-full which I assume is meant to be used with p7zip-rar which is non-free.

_sebastian_ wrote on the 10 May 08 at 13:50
+1

can the information about what kind of file a package can open be stored in the repository. so synaptic knows what packages are needed to open .rar or .7z or .arm...

maxadamo wrote on the 10 May 08 at 20:46
Even if rar is not free, there is either unrar-free, and unrar available for Ubuntu.
Yes, unrar-free, could be part of the default setup, or could be downloaded automatically when you encounter such file.

But:
Question: does the OS of the opposition support RAR natively?
Answer: NO.

On the OS of the opposition, if you encounter a RAR file, the OS doesn't have any idea what that file is :o) and you have to download evaluation version of some software.

I would say: who care about those Russian Archives?
On the other side, I finished installing ubuntu on a friend's PC, and a day later he called me, complaining that was unable to open a rar file :o)

ebrahim wrote on the 11 May 08 at 17:32
And tell him/her about the open source alternative, 7-Zip, and why people should use it over the proprietary RAR.

wladston wrote on the 11 May 08 at 19:11
I agree that rar isn't free and there are better alternatives. but should make it easy for the user to work and get things done, for the same reason that installing support for mp3 decoding shouldn't be a hassle (they have done an amazing job on it!)

ElBarto wrote on the 18 May 08 at 13:06
This should work like video codecs and support any not installed but available archiving format like rar, ace...

6205 wrote on the 26 May 08 at 05:22
Ok, i agree, but these are usability features witch should GNOME devs implement, not Ubuntu 'packagers'

Try to spam GNOME developers to work harder on 2.24 release..

master5o1 wrote on the 3 Aug 08 at 23:48
maxadamo wrote on the 10 May 08 at 20:46
But:
Question: does the OS of the opposition support RAR natively?


WTF is 'OS of the opposition'?

Microsoft Windows? Fedora? RHEL? SuSE? OpenSuSE? Mac OS X?

I'll assume that it is Windows, since generally thought that we're in direct competition with MS. However in truth, Ubuntu is competing with all the other Linuxes AND Mac OS X.

'the opposition' suggests only ONE opponent.

krokosjablik wrote on the 24 Aug 08 at 11:51
I think the "duplicate" ideas are also:
- http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3508/
and
- http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/10948/


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