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    <title><![CDATA[Permanent Mount Names for External Devices]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/7805/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[One major flaw I've found is with mounting devices. <br />It would be great if one could just plug a device in, then after it mounts s/he could give it a permanent mount name.<br />People shouldn't have to manipulate udev rules!<br /><br />Below is an example:<br /><br />A new linux user is using Ubuntu Gutsy Gibbon, Gnome or KDE.<br />They have one external USB hard drive, and one USB flash drive. Let's say they first plug in the external drive, it mounts under /dev/sda1 (successfully, let's assume hotplugging works) to the location /media/disk.<br />The user plugs in the flash drive. It mounts as /dev/sda2 to the location /media/usbdisk.<br />Success! But wait, what happens if the user unmounts both devices, and then reverses the procedure? What if he mounts the usb drive first?<br /><br />Lo and behold, the opposite happens:it configures them as /dev/sda2 and /dev/sda1, respectively mounting the external drive to /media/usbdisk, and vice-versa.<br />Now, /etc/fstab allows you to assign device markers (/dev) to certain mountpoints, right? But how can one effect which new device is assigned which marker? With UUIDS, right?<br />But when one assigns UUIDs to certain /devs, it effectively disables hotplugging!<br />So where are we? Back at the beginning!<br />Now, I may be wrong about a few of the particulars here, and if so, please, please correct me. But does anyone know a way around this?<br />In Windows XP, Vista, and Mac OS X, one can assign a mount point/drive/partition a permanent name.<br />This is very annoying; for example if I have shifting mount points then my ktorrent, amarok saved locations get screwed up.<br />
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  <title>Comment from yochaigal</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If you are voting against this, please explain. I really can't see why someone would be against this; or at least suggest an alternative.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:49:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Cypher</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Right click on the device in Dolphin, go into the properties, and change it's name... Yeap, that's it, you've just done it the way you wanted. Next time you'll plug it in, it will retake its name. And there are some other interesting mounting options there, have a look.<br /><br />I guess GNOME does not allow to do this... I'd be surprised if you could.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 09:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Endolith</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think I disagree with this. The mount name should depend on the partition's label, and everything you would want to do with it should be accessible that way.  Whether it shows up as /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 should be irrelevant.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 13:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from a3_nm</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I agree with Endolith, however I do not know of any easy way to change a drive's label using the Gnome interface.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from yochaigal</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Dolphin (ie KDE4) allows you to change mount names; but they don't keep. <br />Try my experiment.<br />Also, the mount name doesn't necessarily depend on the device node; but we still do need a way to keep mounts static; I have seen more than a few newbies turned away from GNU/Linux because they keep having to reconfigure their media players and torrent clients.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 15:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from yochaigal</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I should point out that I'm not suggesting we enrich the mount options already available by Gnome/KDE 3.5/KDE 4.0.<br />I am simply suggesting that we make static udev rules easier to apply; or create a simple setup gui that does all the hard work for us and allows hotplugging.<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 18:30:46 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from daisy.code</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Does ext3/2 have the capability to hold disk labels? Is the UUID unique for each disk?<br /><br />With a FAT32 USB Stick, the disk label works quite nicely. I suppose you'd have to use fdisk or gparted (gfloppy?) for that.<br /><br />I'd like to see this option for various types of USB device. Joypad 1 and 2 are a good example.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 19:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from yochaigal</title>
  <description><![CDATA[See<br />http://www.lissot.net/partition/ext2fs/labels.html<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Rinzwind</title>
  <description><![CDATA[a3_nm: if you right click on an external device you can set its mount point name in the right most tab. <br /><br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 20:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tgape</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think MacOS X does this nearly right - when you insert formated removable media, it gets the label off of the media, and uses that as the directory name - which is dynamically created as needed.<br /><br />Now, I feel MacOS X fails, in that one can only change the label name through the GUI.  IMHO, any rename of the mount point by an authorized user should do a relabel.<br /><br />Having said that, I have no issue with also making a device-centric name available.  This could be done by making a symbolic link from one to the other]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from awalton</title>
  <description><![CDATA["Does ext3/2 have the capability to hold disk labels?"<br />Yes. e2label.<br /><br />"Is the UUID unique for each disk?"<br />UUID stands for "Universally Unique IDentifier". If it weren't Universally Unique, then it'd hardly be worth calling it that.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 21:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from xapient</title>
  <description><![CDATA[i just tried with two USB devices and it worked perfect..  <br /><br />i am using konqueror (kde 3.5.9)- disk labeled.. mountpoint defined... test..  works..   new test in different "plugin" order..  also works..   did i miss something?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 10:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jpka</title>
  <description><![CDATA[+1<br /><br />I comment some about this here<br />http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5228822#post5228822<br />]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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