Idea
#6935: An option of splitting a nautilus Window into two views, (re Norton Commander)
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Written by Punchy the 13 Apr 08 at 13:30.
Category: Look and Feel.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
Would it be possible to add an option for seeing two windows in one filebrowser, in order to push files around ?
this is one of those things which, once you've used it, you ask yourself how you ever did otherwise. i have used 'norton commander' (DOS) in the past, and 'total commander' (for MS Windows, google it), and also the kde file manager 'krusader'. all of these are split into two windows. its much more compact, and much easier to keep order on the desktop.
(Or is this something that the Gnome people would have to do ?)
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lsdark wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 14:08
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then open 2 windows
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Punchy wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 14:14
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this is what i have been doing the last 5 years, each time wishing for something more compact (see 'total commander').
after a few moments, one has the desktop filled with windows.
(yes, i use the workspace switcher, which helps.).
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rorymccann wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 16:18
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What are you asking for? A tabbed window? Or some sort of split screen?
I can't really see the problem with just opening two windows.
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Punchy wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 16:27
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sorry, maybe i should have described it better. indeed, a split screen would be what i meant. and tabbed as well.
this is one of those things which, once you've used it, you ask yourself how you ever did otherwise. i have used 'norton commander' (DOS) in the past, and 'total commander' (for MS Windows, google it), and also the kde windows manager 'krusader'. all of these are split into two windows. its much more compact, and much easier to keep order on the desktop.
there is no 'problem' with two windows. but in my experience, a two paned file manager serves to avoid a lot of clutter, and keeps you from haveing open windows all over the place.
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Warbo wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 21:53
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I'd hate to see Nautilus become so bogged down with niche options that it becomes another Konqueror. Even KDE are using Dolphin for file browsing/management now, since it's become clear that adding every feature imaginable creates a program which is very hard to approach.
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Punchy wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 22:35
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Warbo:
Thats a sensible point, actually. I myself really dont like, for example, how KDE tries/tried to make Konqueror into Browser for everything, including the www.
But after some consideration I think that simply the option of being able to choose between two or one panel, maybe tabbed, wouldn't lead to too much bloat.
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mangar wrote on the 14 Apr 08 at 06:55
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there's gnome-commander, tux-commander, krusader, etc.
split view is a different paradigm for managing files, and it's easy to use the appropriate tool for the job.
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Punchy wrote on the 14 Apr 08 at 11:46
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mangar:
i have used all the tools you mention, yet i still think the _option_ of having two panes in a nautilus windows would be an improvement.
all i want to do is throw files back and forth, without having to open extra windows to do this every time.. installing non gnome native or nautilus native packages to do that is overkilling.
let me repeat. i am talking about the _option_ of being able to choose two panes. i am not saying that this should be enforced upon all.
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ld_barthel wrote on the 15 Apr 08 at 01:14
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Unfortunately, what you're up against here is a deliberate design choice by the GNOME team.
To me, Nautilus is nearly useless as a file manager in its default form. I actually get more done with FileRunner (which is no longer in development) than anything else. (I guess my old Amiga "dutil" & "Zippy" roots are showing.)
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Darin wrote on the 6 Jun 08 at 12:58
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This is listed on the Gnome Bugzilla:
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=309646
It would also make folder-to-folder sync more easily possible:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/3781/
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Using KDE many years ago, I really loved this option. I had since forgot about it after using Gnome for so long. But I recently tried out a KDE Live CD, and Dolphin now also has this functionality - now I really miss it.
Unfortunately it seems like those on the Gnome Bugzilla think it's not simple enough. At the same time many suggest using tree view in the sidebar, which to me seems quite complicated and awkward.
Since the new Nautilus will have Tabbed browsing, it seems like it would make this request more likely. To me, though, a split view would have been an even better solution than tabbed view. It's incredibly useful for moving files around much faster, comparing directories, and FTP.
I don't really understand how those on the Gnome Bugzilla can argue it's not simple enough when it is much more simple than opening a new window (which requires a ctrl+n, or file>new, or going back to the desktop, or right clicking on another folder - all multiple steps), renavigating to a directory, resizing both windows, or dragging file to the taskbar/tab, then back to a window... all while the workspace becomes even more cluttered by multiple windows.
Hitting a "Split View" button is about as simple as it gets.
- Darin
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krojc wrote on the 15 Jul 08 at 11:21
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Opening another window in nautilus or konqueror, does not make it twin panel. Users not familiar with twin panel functionality should refrain from commenting. Users that never tried total commander, krusader, or gnome-commander (among many) should refrain also.
I would kill for ubuntu supported gnome-commander.
Outdated, but nice read.
http://murban.blogspot.com/2006/01/krusader-and-konqueror-twin-versus-one.html
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kronocyber wrote on the 31 Aug 08 at 03:18
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I think a twin panel view is useful enough to warrant it as one of the core options available. The file manager is used to manage files, and the second most common task after of course opening files with some application is to move them between directories. Twin panel view is best suited for this task because seeing the source and target side by side is intuitive and clear. After a cut and paste operation, I can visually confirm that the file has been removed from one directory and added to another with out switching back and forth. its as simple as drag and drop. It should have been much higher priority than backgrounds, icon view, and yes even tabs which make a nice extension after core functionality is achieved. That being said, this issue can not be resolved here. Because it is entirely upstream, we should talk to gnome.
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