Idea #6454: Install package with e.g. gdebi while synaptic is open should be possible

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Written by natureflow the 5 Apr 08 at 16:36. Category: System.
Related to: Nothing/Others. Status: New

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It should be possible to install a package with e.g. gdebi while synaptic is open. It's a shame! In the moment it isn't possible. :(

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daisy.code wrote on the 5 Apr 08 at 16:43

I can't see how this would be possible. The reason why you can't do this is to protect you from yourself. You could install something in synaptic which disagrees with gdebi.

vexorian wrote on the 5 Apr 08 at 21:14

Actually, you should be able to have both open, synaptic and gdebi shouldn't lock the file unless it is necessary.

vexorian wrote on the 5 Apr 08 at 21:14

I mean, you should be allowed to have both of them open, but not allowed to do package installation from both.

Jeff Dougson wrote on the 5 Apr 08 at 23:59

IINM, PackageKit may help with this.

natureflow wrote on the 28 Apr 08 at 13:59

If I have this propose:
It should be possible to open with two text editors the same file
everyone would vote it down. But it's actually possible. The program (e.g. gedit) is recognizing if the file is modified.

This feature is real possible. There is NO reason to vote it down. "It's to protect you" is really a joke. I want just to READ. I do NOT want to SAVE anything.

natureflow wrote on the 28 Apr 08 at 14:00

PackageKit is a hope. :)

foxure wrote on the 1 Oct 08 at 21:28

I think this actually is a bug in synaptic, if i type apt-cache search test, and at the same time run apt-get install app, it will work, i suppose that any other application related to handling deb files work that way, expect synaptic.

adelie wrote on the 16 Oct 08 at 19:17

it isn't a bug, it is a safety. Synaptic makes the lock on apt because it loads the apt databse when it starts. This is what makes the program run really fast once it is open, but makes it somewhat slow to load. If you manually installed a package by some other method, then tried to make changes with synaptic, you could easily break the system.

This is a fix to otherwise unintended consequences. It is either better performance in synaptic, or anticipate consequences of conflicting actions that really shouldn't be going on anyway. Really, why should synaptic slow down to run another program that does exactly the same thing.

And if you just want to browse synaptic without installing anything, it can be started as a normal user from a command line. from the system menu, it just assumes you want to make actual administrative changes by default. Not a bad assumption if you ask me. Programs should be optimized for productivity first.

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