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Gimp is a great graphics editor we all know. Congratulations to all developpers!
My Idea:
- Adding a Selection for "Using Gimp in one Window"
IMPORTANT
- That should NOT be default, but an option, which doesn't go in trouble for users liking this multi window management with its advantages!
I guess that more than 20% of the gimp users where really happy for this important feature. I know that Gimpshop and other Plugins are available, but this couldn't be the end solution. Gimp should bring this "little" feature with it in future! Thanks!
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Eldmannen wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 21:22
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They say MDI (Multiple document interface) is something bad and outdated.
They say that thanks to GIMP don't stay in one window, its possible to use multiple monitors, and have different things on different screens.
The current setup has its advantages...
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vexorian wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 22:06
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-1 : already implemented.
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maknu wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 22:50
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Thanks for giving me this horizont ;). I understand all users using gimp how you illustrated. There are I think a lot of users they hate gimp just in reason of this missing feature (me incl.)! It's soooo simple to realize. Just a Point of Selection and a couple kB's of Code to make Gimp easier for the rest of the community. I don't want to have this feature for default! Just a option to select a ONE Window Management manually.
Personally, I grew up with Corel Draw and Photoshop. I ever work on my Notebook, in graphics mainly for Web Applications. A ONE Window Graphics Editor (or MIDI) gives me (personally) a better view over multiple files :). With Compiz I realized a small solution to keep me on Gimp. That works, but I don't like to use Gimp that way for a long time. I heard about this brainstorming, a good idea to bring in some missing feature. I know many people staying on MS Windows or MAC, because they miss features on Linux like this. I installed a Linux Distribution since 2002 every half Year and fall back to Windows every time, afters 1-2 months. The reason: Bad Notebook hardware support, unstaple, freaky and un-usable Interfaces etc. Now, I have installed Linux since Feisty, without a dual boot!! And I haven't fall back to Windows or OSX yet and be ready to keep the way on Linux. But if there are to many closed doors in the way... (this is just a detail against other things), I don't want to grow anger. It's easier to buy a Mac or to programm an own OS (but that's not a good solution). I think about Linux should offer more options and liberty than OS like Windows. And this liberty begins with options like this here.
Sorry about this little depressive kind of view. I'm a developper, but also a simple user. For me its incredible to understand, that we stay in Year 2008, having so many ideas not realized or just ignored. An inacceptability and freaky way like this answer (from Gimp self or whatever) brings surely no future! This feature is missing in hundreds of forums and sooo simple to realize. Incredible, that Gimp doesn't understand users with other advantages.
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Bauke wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 08:03
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Maknu, I agree that users should have this option. You might consider to ask this to the guys who make GimpShop.
As a photoshop user myself I like the way GimpShop has it's features lined up like photoshop does.
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johno wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 08:18
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MDI doesn't belong in the application itself, but should be system-wide, like in the window manager.
On the issue of Gimp, I would suggest changing the default start-up window set to be one window for the controls, and one window for each image. That works very nicely, by just stacking the layers panel into the main toolbox panel.
Gimp works much better under sloppy focus than the click-to-focus model that Ubuntu has by default. It's a shame that so many people get led into click-to-focus in Ubuntu just so that there is familiarity from the legacy OSs.
Of more significance, especially to Ubuntu, is more about an overall better strategy for MDI - especially as this is something the click-to-focus users have a need for. It's silly for each application to have their own method of managing multiple windows, so there should be a push for something consistent to appear at the window-manager level, or perhaps Gnome.
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Lee wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 09:53
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Use Krita instead
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XVIIarcano wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 10:06
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I am for the one window GIMP by default and I'd leave separate windows as an option (@Eldmannen, I agree but for how many people MDI is an advantage? I don't know many people whith dual monitors. Development should be done for the majority, not for the niche, especially when both could be satisfied as it is the case).
Let me signal that there is a dedicated GIMP branistorm at
http://gimp-brainstorm.blogspot.com/
It is not as sophisticated as the Ubuntu one but that is the place to go to submit GIMP related ideas.
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nivus wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 14:40
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I'm sending picture window to down, and don't need this feature.
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maknu wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 18:15
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@johno: Great additional Idea, we have the same line.
@Lee: Thanks for telling me about Krita! I didn't hear before... but I'm a happy Gnome user and doesn't like KDE programs :D
@XVlarcano: Ok, perhaps It's better to tell my idea there, but I think, that other users have already told about this to the gimp developpers. Ubuntu Brainstorming is eventually huge enough to bring the gimp developpers to believe, that many users need this feature.
I wait for more results :). Please vote!
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sirkubador wrote on the 27 Mar 08 at 21:38
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I am completely happy with multiple windows in gimp. On a special workspace it is very good useful an comfortable. So I disagree with this idea. (it is already implemented also)
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k99goran wrote on the 28 Mar 08 at 08:28
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Personally I think "One Window Gimp" SHOULD be the default.
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lsdark wrote on the 30 Mar 08 at 07:50
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agree with sirkubador
I also came from corel and other photoshop,
I just learn something different and like it !
GIMP is a veteran in GNU world, older than ubuntu, even than gnome.. you can't just come and request YOUR way just because YOU prefer it. Lot's of people are used to multiple windows.
"it SHOULD be default", sounds like selfihsness.
-1 of course
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csulok wrote on the 30 Mar 08 at 15:34
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vexorian: where is it already implemented?
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maknu wrote on the 2 Apr 08 at 18:00
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@all with meaning of "already implemented": Please give us a simple HOWTO to use Gimp in a real ONE Window. This isn't implemented I'm sure!
@all newcomers:
MY IDEA ISN'T HAVING GIMP IN ONE WINDOW BY DEFAULT, JUST A OPTION!!!
I don't want to have a discussion to be default or not! We talk about an OPTION to have Gimp in ONE Window. This Option should be done with one Click in "Preferences -> Window Management" or something like that.
Thanks!
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OasisGames wrote on the 2 Apr 08 at 20:50
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As an option, definitely. However, I find it a bit funny as I've spent the past few months searching for a way to get Photoshop (in Wine) to run in like Gimp. To each his own I guess.
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belovedmonster wrote on the 4 Apr 08 at 09:33
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The Gimp developers are actively working on a new GUI as we speak. They have done usability testing which showed everyone hated having multiple windows, and when the Gimp developers asked for submissions from the community about their feelings on the GUI they got nothing but requests to make it a single window. So sometime in the future we can expect to a single window version of Gimp.
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AlexandreProkoudine wrote on the 4 Apr 08 at 15:13
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This is a wrong place to discuss this as Ubuntu/Canonical does not affect UI design decisions done by GIMP developers in any way and unlikely will do that in the future.
It's also unlikely to ever see GIMP use a Photoshop-like single window interface unless you fork GIMP (which is not recommended, because you simply won't be able to maintain your own version of GIMP).
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skerit wrote on the 24 Apr 08 at 11:02
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If MDE is a step back, having 30 buttons in your taskbar 'cause of gimp sure as hell isn't a step forward!
How many home-users use multiple monitors, anyway? Especially in these widescreen times.
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