Idea
#5733: Use Beagle instead of Tracker
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Written by droetker the 26 Mar 08 at 00:04.
Category: System.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Eldmannen wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 02:06
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Tracker written in C.
Beagle written in C# with .NET
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SorinN wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 02:49
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Yep - Tracker has advantages of Tags ( searching by tags is far more easier ).
Now - Beagle is still Buggy - Tracker Too.
They disabled tracker because of the tracker daemon which can not be stopped to eat your CPU right now. On this area Beagle Daemon is much more silent.
Now about tags - every part of Ubuntu should use search anf filtering tools based on Tags where Tags can be set (photos, folder names, file names, etc).
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vexorian wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 03:10
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Beagle is C# dependent, the lame part is that it is only MONOfied for interface stuff since the C libbeagle thingy does all the hard work.
How about ubuntu made its own C++/python interface for it?
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Auzy wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 04:39
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I personally don't have any issues with mono..
I actually submitted some patches to Beagle in the past, and the code for Beagle is beautiful, and easy to maintain (as opposed to GAIM for instance, which I've never seen the code for, but people seem to hide from it). And NAT friedman from Ximian knows where he is going with this.
So Beagle certainly has a long term future.
And we can thank ximian for alot of major usability improvements in linux.. +1. I've always had total faith in beagle, and I know from experience its easy to maintain and improve code. I trust Nat friedman's team more then I trust any other linux development team to be honest
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XSP wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 06:32
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My problems with Mono is Microsoft has patents on the C# language. Novell licensed it to create Mono and distribution outside of the Microsoft deal gives you no protection. That's the only reason I don't want Mono applications installed by default. It could hurt us on down the road. I don't think that we should remove it though, just keep everything optional.
Hopefully dotGNU will gain steam in the future so that we have an alternative. C# isn't a bad language at all. It truly epitomizes RAD.
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 droetker (Moderator) wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 08:21
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I think it is very sad that many just say - it is written in C - therefore it is better.
In future all programs will get more complicated - and therefore harder to maintain. And using C doesn't make it easier, but harder.
The GNOME/GTK Guys already think of other possibilities, like moving to C++ or other OO languages.
On the other hand, read
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mono_(software)#Mono_and_Microsoft.E2.80.99s_paten ts
I like C# very much, it is very clean. But yes, it could be dangerous to use it...
difficult.
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jrusinek wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 16:13
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Mono is simple way to be MS-dependent.
Some beautiful day MS will decide to sue some of us (in "us" I mean whole community around GNU/etc).
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Cypher wrote on the 9 Apr 08 at 14:38
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How about Strigi ? ;-)
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TWO wrote on the 25 May 08 at 06:51
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I just installed Ubuntu Hardy Heron, and Tracker just had to go. It was eating up my CPU and making my fan go crazy, plus making every process take twice as long. As soon as I have removed it and replaced it with Beagle, Beagle is working like a charm without effecting my desktop experience.
Furthermore, Tracker was taking forever to index in spite of being on the highest setting whilst Beagle seems to have done it pretty quickly. I say this because I typed in the name of a file that I know I have in Tracker and it displayed no results- I had made sure to highlight the directory in the settings too- whilst Beagle has found the results in the way an indexing program should.
I don't know about the politics behind not using Beagle because it is Mono and/or Microsoft and blah blah blah, but I am a user that wants programs that work. The code or who made the code does not concern me in the least. I did a bit of light research and is it not that the code is also released under a GNU license which means that it is OK to be freely distributed??
(I don't know much about it, so I'll stop here.)
Oh and as for the last suggestion to use Strigi. Having just come from using Kubuntu, Strigi was without doubt the worse indexing program I have ever come across. I found the interface abysmal and it simply couldn't find what I wanted it too. Beagle is DEFINITELY the way to go. I even used Kerry/ Beagle on Kubuntu.
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Cypher wrote on the 27 May 08 at 09:14
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The GUI of Strigi you saw is a temporary one... Strigi is supposed to be a back end, and because there is no front end yet, you have to deal with that fugly web interface. It will come in time.
However, the indexing capacities of Strigi are far better than any other.
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droetker (Moderator) wrote on the 19 Jun 08 at 20:21
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strigi will be fully usable in Intrepid Ibex I think.
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vladu wrote on the 7 Jul 08 at 13:19
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After keeping tracker installed for over a month now, it still doesn't show me the results of my searches (something like this guy here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=630231 ). It finished indexing - at least so it seems from the statistics - but it's completely unusable. Beagle on the other hand works without a problem, is fast, and has all the features I need. I never felt it slows my machine.
I don't care much about what language the coders use. I'm a user who just wants things to simply work ..like all of us!
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TWO wrote on the 8 Jul 08 at 04:03
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"Beagle on the other hand works without a problem, is fast, and has all the features I need. I never felt it slows my machine.
I don't care much about what language the coders use. I'm a user who just wants things to simply work ..like all of us! "
Exactly!!
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glotz wrote on the 13 Aug 08 at 18:43
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Not all mate, not all.
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