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Idea #5410: Better integration with anti virus software like avast,clamav



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Written by dragoninsane the 22 Mar 08 at 14:36. Category: Security.
Related to: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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it should be improved,i think avast should be supported
in repo,made aware to general public.Avast is most
popular av for linux,win.but Clamav is also good i dont
know which will be people's choice.clamav is good
but doesnt have best support also it doesnt have gui.
Include context menu for files/folders for virus scan.
scan with Clamav/avast wud be gr8.also clamav should be
available in repo.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 15:37
Maybe you're new to Linux.

I'll tell you a secret, in Linux you don't need antivirus software.

No really, I am serious.

neon wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 16:55
Eldmannen, you're putting blind trust in the fact that at the current moment, we're not main targets.

As Linux gets more popular, more people will target us, and it probly will be necessary to have an AV.
I'm not saying Avast! is the answer, but yeah. :P

virsli100 wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 17:34
Well, clamav does have a gui. It is called: Klamav.
And they are in the repo already.

What i would like to see in repo is avira with the gui (if we speaking about proprietary av softwares)

unimatrix wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 17:42
When/if Linux starts getting infected by viruses we should do this. Until then, it's pretty pointless.

sedra wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 19:53
no antivirus this is why i quit windoze

edm1 wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 21:29
Of course an antivirus is needed by some people.

Auzy wrote on the 23 Mar 08 at 00:02
1) We are just as vulnerable as Windows. Waiting until linux starts getting infected is kind of late.

2) We are more vulnerable then windows, because windows includes AV by default now (windows defender)

3) What happens when people start running wine a lot more? 1.0 will be reached soon, and I'd have to see the occasion marked by a torrent of viruses infecting people's wine.

4) Seeing that ubuntu is only released once every 6 months, 6 months is a long time to wait for good AV integration when you have a few worms spreading over pidgin, or xchat.

5) Nothing says "I wont touch your OS", then a bad week of worms and exploiting. Even though AV should only be used as a final barrier and cleanup, we don't currently have a last line of defence really, and even if we patch everything within 24 hours, people should still have a way to identify if they have been compromised, otherwise, right about now, we could have thousands of infected linux computers, and because we don't have much of a virus detection infrastructure in place, we'd only know when some servers get hacked.


A solid +1, we certainly are NOT invincible!

I personally think it should be a part of a security centre personally: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1282/


Happy easter all

derick.eisenhardt wrote on the 23 Mar 08 at 06:09
As while Linux in general is less likely to get viruses and worms, getting Adware and Spyware is a very likely scenario for Ubuntu users (they only need to run in user space, no permissions needed). Just as stated earlier, we are not invincible when it comes to malware, it's primarily a market share issue.

Another important thing to consider is people who interconnect with Windows machines, especially when using Samba file sharing. Just because your Linux box housing the infected files is safe, doesn't mean you aren't concerned with other machines on your network.

dragoninsane wrote on the 23 Mar 08 at 07:56
The point is Linux maybe not be vulnerable but it can
act as spreading machine those who downloaded files from internet,so a decent av is quiet required,but i dont
emphasize on Linux viruses though.they are pretty odd
and chances are very very slim for system 2 get caught
by virus although worms exists but ubuntu security
is solid and its improving by leaps and bounds.

Monicker wrote on the 3 May 08 at 14:40
Contrary to what many people seem to believe,there are viruses for linux out in the wild now. The separation of privileges which linux uses by default will protect most people if they run one.

The threat is currently minimal for the majority of users, but there are increasing numbers of new users who are not very cautious in their use of root privileges.

Education on safe computing practices is still a must.

barbedsaber wrote on the 14 Jul 08 at 00:13
We dont need antivirus, its not just because we are not main targets, its because of a lot of things, largely, that we don't run as root all the time, so if a program (virus) goes haywire, and tries to delete bins and stuff, it doesn't have the permissions to do so. The main reason a user would want to have anti virus software, would be to protect their windows friends.

Auzy wrote on the 14 Jul 08 at 01:14
Whilst thats true barbedsaber, Windows Vista actually does the same, and yet Microsoft still believes they need Anti-virus (in fact, don't take this the wrong way, but many security experts are actually teaching that Vista is winning in file security at the moment).

The reason is that viruses can still trash their home directories. Although, they rarely do that these days. In fact, the bad ones these days encrypt the user directory and blackmail the end user. And even with only user privileges, they can still start up with the user, and still contribute towards DDOS attacks.

Finally, they can also eventually trick the user into gaining root anyway.


Nobody cares if the filesystem gets trashed anyway, all people care about is their home directories, and viruses can still destroy that.


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