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#5273: Save ratings to ID3
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Written by dominik.mayer the 21 Mar 08 at 07:35.
Category: Multimedia.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
Neither Rhythmbox nor EasyTAG or any other linux program I found was able to save music ratings into ID3 tags. So you have to retag all songs if you change the file structure or the music player.
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perpetualrabbit wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 09:01
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Is there a place in ID3 tags for such purpose? And what about all the other music file types (ogg,flac,shorten,wav, etc. etc.)?
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dominik.mayer wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 09:46
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I don't know how things work with ogg, ... but I know that it's possible to store some kind of custom data in ID3 tags. And there are programs for other systems that save ratings.
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Eldmannen wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 17:16
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It is not possible to put ratings in ID3 tags.
Even if it was possible, it would be a stupid idea since people often share or transfer MP3s to other people, and ratings are highly personal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ID3
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dominik.mayer wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 20:00
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@Eldmannen: Why would you care if other people that might however get your mp3s agree with your ratings? If they don't like them they can easily change or delete them.
And where did you get the information that it's not possible to put ratings in ID3 tags? There is software that does exactly that and the ID3 homepage reads:
"The following frames are defined in ID3v2 informal standard. Users can define their own frames, if needed."
(http://www.id3.org/Frames)
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benpage26 wrote on the 21 Mar 08 at 22:42
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I think it would be a better idea to define an open standard for music libraries.
Possibly something XML based, though i don't know much about XML (all i know is OO.org use it for their structures) would XML be really slow for searching or any other problems?
If all the major Media players and taggers (Rhythmbox, easyTAG, Amarok, even iTunes and Windows media player) took advantage of this it would be easy to switch your media player if you choose to (the whole point of linux is choice).
Even if programs didn't use it natively but had the ability to 'Export libary as "open XML library standard"' that'd be very useful and solve this (and a few other) problems
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 00:17
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@benpage
That solves NOTHING.
If i move a file, i loose all extra info like ratings, how often i played the file, etc.
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neon wrote on the 22 Mar 08 at 18:33
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I hate losing all my ratings. D:
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wleoncio wrote on the 11 Apr 08 at 17:18
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Me too. I've been wanting to move my music files for AGES, but I never did it because I would lose all my Rhythmbox ratings... :-/
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_sebastian_ wrote on the 27 Apr 08 at 06:01
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forgot to mention mp3tag runs fine in wine :-)
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Darin wrote on the 16 Jun 08 at 06:24
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ID3v2 does support ratings. It was in many Windows programs I used years ago. It's a value from 0-255 set in the ID Tag - most programs will show a value of 255 as 5 Stars, and a value of 1 as 0 Stars.
Here is a short explanation of all ID3v2 frames:
http://www.id3.org/Frames
I didn't know until reading that that the Popularimeter also supports play count. Which seems a little redundant since there is also a Play Count frame. I'm sure there's some difference.
I think I'd like to see both. Though the latter may bother some, it would be great not having to worry about backing up a database file (often confusing and inconvenient for most) in addition to your music. It may even speed up loading a Player since it would cut a lot out of the database file. It would be a great step toward interoperability - not having to worry about one database not working with a Media Player you want to switch to.
Moving songs around, and even backing them up is a hassle. I don't rate my songs because:
1. I don't back up the database often
2. I may switch to different players
3. If you want to change the folder structure, file names, etc, your ratings are gone.
Maybe someone could add it to Rhythmbox/Banshee/Player-of-your-choice Bugzillas.
- Darin
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