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Totem is a good player, but vlc is much better. Please put the best software as default in ubuntu, because the problems of new users , coming from windows, will decrease a lot with vlc, that recognise more codecs than totem.
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jakeg wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:26
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i can only ever get DVDs to play back using VLC, not Totem, no matter what guides I follow. So a big +1 from me.
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madjr wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:32
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right now i also have VLC as default, but..
the new totem just launched with gnome 2.22, they say it's been improved lets try it and see first.
i can't vote on this yet till i see it in action
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Laconic wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:37
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VLC is trash. I only use it play DVDs because I have too. Give Totem some more time...VLC should work on their GUI and menus too.
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zarkov wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:48
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Now waiting for the mplayer faction to join in …
Nobody? Well then: Totem is trash! VLC is not that much better, either! Mplayer is bestest!
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belovedmonster wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:48
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VLC is great but it needs a GUI overhaul on Linux and Windows. (The Mac version is so much prettier its like a totally different app).
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spyyder wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:50
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VLC offer the greatest usability with minimal tweaking.
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mmeiser wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 21:48
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I'm torn. I use VLC almost exclusively on the mac and have for years. It's brilliant. But at the same time Totem rocks on Ubuntu, it's so simple and works so well. It's all I need about 95% of the time and isn't that precisely what you want in easy to use software?
I love advanced features in vlc, especially things like sound normalization which I personally believe should be one of the key features, but you have to have a PHD to even find it let alone tweak it to work correctly. VLC definitely goes off the deep end with advanced features. As much as I love it it's not for newbies.
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tomaszx wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 22:18
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summary:
1. all is trash? .. :/
2. Totem have simple GUI for newbie
Make simple gui like totem for vlc then make include them as default video player...
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fluxy wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 22:39
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Totem = Trash
Mplayer is cool but VLC is better - single gui (what's wrong with it?) it's great for watching dvd's too
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allo wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 22:49
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Totem is too unstable and not very usable. But it has nice visualizations, this might attract newbies.
+1 for VLC, because it plays most videos, just like mplayer with a better gui.
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Auzy wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 00:08
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+0.. Try 8.04 first before assuming anything people
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jellurado wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 01:15
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vlc is nice. But totem plays everything here.
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XSP wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 01:22
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If VLC was the default player, it would not allow for DVD playback. They can't. It's illegal. mp3s, windows media, etc... they would all be out of the binary. You would have to recompile it from source in order to get those formats working which would be more trouble than it's worth to new users.
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vexorian wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 02:14
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I used to think like that, but after installing the restricted codecs totem plays a lot more formats and it does it much better than VLC, I really think totem is still the best option. Also VLC is a little unstable sometimes.
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 03:21
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Technically Totem plays more formats than VLC.
However, VLC has a lot of the codecs and demuxers 'built-in'. Also, if the developpers would be aware of the VLC's ability to play commercial DVD's they would remove that feature.
VLC supports more formats by default because:
- it isn't installed by default
- it escaped the developpers' attention it contains deccs.
However, would you install DeCC + win32 codec pack, totem really would play way more files and formats than vlc.
Stability is a hoax btw. Remove all gstreamer-codecs except for gstreamer-ffmpeg and you would be running the exact same code as vlc for displaying the video. (or just install totem-xine)
People really are complaining about gstreamer here, not totem. But gstreamer is the way forward. If something does not work, submit a bug report, find out which codecs are being problematic and with what video. Help them out!
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Vadim P. wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 03:53
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VLC isn't better; it's a last-minute resort that works most of the times. It shouln't be used as a first thing though.
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gQuigs wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 04:16
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VLC rocks! However, I oddly like Totem as the default. Plus, VLC next version is going to be based on Qt, which AFAIK we can't do in Ubuntu (Gnome).
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peterjs wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 06:45
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Echoing XSP, I think having VLC installed by default would be a disaster, since it's not installed by default it pushes the burden of legality on the end user. The only version of VLC that would be legal to include in the base install would be crippled and worthless. I like my ultra swiss army knife media player of questionable legality, just the way it is. Having to VLC after your system is set up doesn't hurt you any, crippling VLC to make it viable to include in main would hurt us all.
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flip314 wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 06:59
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I don't like the VLC GUI and I've never gotten mplayer to work for me. Totem's as good as anything in most cases, so I'd rather stick with that.
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dino99 wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 08:55
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Totem: most of the time don't work (need to be ready playing out of the box)
Vlc: often the only one for playing all the formats
Smplayer: the best i prefer, very good gui
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johnrhunt wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 10:55
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VLC is technically a much better player, however Totem is a much more cut-down/simple media player and therefore easier to use/understand.
Personally, I think a lot more development time needs to be put into totem as it has potential, but it just isn't realised properly (like dvd menu support.)
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tomatz wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 11:02
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Yeah vlc is technically better but it does need alot of "humanizing" before it could be implemented as the default player.
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letronje wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 11:04
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I like smplayer the best. It has a good UI and is feature rich.
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Jerrac wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:15
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-1 since VLC's interface is rather horrid.
I wish there was a linux version of the free Media Player Classic. :D
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mickstephenson wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:35
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Totem is the best player that uses the gstreamer backend, and gstreamer though lacking in some features like dvd menu's is obviously poised to be the future of linux sound and video, and with songbird about to be released it could be very important in windows aswell. So totem is going to stay and I'm very happy with that, if it doesn't play some videos you have then you probably don't know what your doing, because there are masses of codecs available, and if you want to pay a bit of money for the fluendo codecs you can get even better quality.
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doan wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:46
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Totem works fine for m
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Vertelemming wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:49
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-1. I love and adore VLC, but it's not suitable for inclusion by default, for legal and usability reasons. gstreamer should eventually support all the same things VLC does and more, we just need a little patience.
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jokerejoker wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:52
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Totem has got full DVD playback and allot of other new codecs in the new GNOME 2.22 that is the version build into Ubuntu Hardy 8.04 :)
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XVIIarcano wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 20:13
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First time playing a video my noob father got a codec download request from totem (confusing for the poor man and assuming there is a network available), VLC yust worked.
@interface_criticizer: you are totally right vlc default interface is minimalistic and badly integrates with the ubuntu look... but vlc supports skins... lets's just dress it in ubuntu sauce!
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 22:16
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VLC can't be installed by default, or all the codecs should be removed.
Go talk to your senator kids. Nothing to do with Ubuntu.
It has to do with american law.
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rumli wrote on the 19 Mar 08 at 01:39
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Agree with Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen. Totem-xine with libdvdcss2 and w32codecs seems to play more files than VLC and handles DVDs perfectly.
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gaspard.leon wrote on the 10 Apr 08 at 04:41
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totem is great, nice simple GUI, I hate multi-window GUIs like MPlayer or VLC
however, totem-gstreamer has crappy DVD support (no menus etc) and totems preferences are a bit sparse for my tastes (setting up subtitle placement anyone???)
so totem-xine is better for DVDs, but on my gutsy system at least, the totem-xine couldn't open SMB network files... which was annoying...
A toss up... VLC sometimes plays things totem won't, MPlayer has better DVD support then totem-gstreamer, but it's GUI is annoying...
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imT wrote on the 6 May 08 at 01:46
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nothing compares to vlc when it comes to corrupted or unfinished video/audio files; with vlc i can see some video sometimes at even 40% p2p completion not to mention the unfinished files that i download via http/ftp.
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tashmooclam wrote on the 18 Jul 08 at 06:34
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Totem didn't work for me. The time using google to make it work was probably 5x longer than installing Ubuntu. VLC works.Totem/Movie player (which is it?) always opens anyway. So, with about 5 mouse clicks I can do what my Mac does by default, launches DVD Player and plays them.
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CAsurfer wrote on the 24 Jul 08 at 23:45
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VLC beats Totem when it comes to the actual playing of videos, whether from a DVD or a .avi. However, Totem's UI and integration with Ubuntu is far superior. I wonder if there's a way to rip out the Totem backend and replace it with VLC's.
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Susanna777 wrote on the 25 Jul 08 at 00:35
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I like vlc b/c it's the only player that works on my computer, because it supports subtitles and b/c it will support captioning soon.
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-randombrainstorm wrote on the 1 Aug 08 at 11:54
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also i haven't seen an equivalent of vlc's 'repair avi index' anywhere else!
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snadrus wrote on the 1 Aug 08 at 15:37
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Is anyone still reading? This needs cleanup.
What about the keyboard settings that are better in Totem?
Or its ability to have extensions?
Or its skirting legal situations by not shipping codecs?
We put a lot of effort into Totem to lose it now. The 8.04 Totem plays everything I've found.
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