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Idea #4735: Make people aware brainstorm isn't for bug reporting

bug This idea was marked as implemented the 19 January 09.
Written by YSH the 15 Mar 08 at 16:06. Related project: brainstorm.ubuntu.com. Status: Implemented
Rationale
Many ideas on brainstorm are just bugs, and brainstorm is not for bugs, its for ideas. If you got a bug, go to launchpad. Obviously not everyone new to ubuntu knows that, so they post it here as an idea. There should be some warning, most likely when you're submitting a new idea, that that's the way it is.
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Written by YSH the 15 Mar 08 at 16:06.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #4735 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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wladston wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 16:59
-1.

Brainstorm, imho, is for people to give suggestions. So there is nothing wrong to suggest that some nasty and annoying bug is fixed (there are LOTS of open bugs, some are unfixed for years!)

Lee wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 17:30
Of course there's something wrong with reporting bugs here. It's a duplication of effort. Redundant information, that risks not being seen by the people working on a project who actually care about its bugs. Moreover, there's no way brainstorm can be filled with good ideas if it's swamped by the hundreds of thousands of bugs that is the sum of bugs in ubuntu projects. This not only jeopardises each project's bug reporting system; it threatens brainstorm, too. It's a SERIOUS oversight that brainstorm wasn't designed to avoid that problem. Just look at the work that went into making launchpad's bug system work with external bug reporting tools. There's no way a simple site like brainstorm can do that right.

jakeg wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:25
i disagree. brainstorm is an easy bug reporter. bug reporting is generally a pain in the arse. brainstorm makes it easy and fun for anyone to do, really quickly. then those who care and have the time can turn them into 'official' bug reports

madjr wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 20:26
-1

some of the bugs are the exactly what ubuntu needs to work on

fixing some crucial bugs is more important than most ideas here

pt123 wrote on the 15 Mar 08 at 23:09
No it is good reporting bugs, eso. when it hinders usability. Brainstorm will hopefully give developers a better idea as to what users want fixed the most.

The other bug reporting sites are rarely used by regulars users don't provide the features like brainstorm. The mods there don't take to kindly to when you vent how frustrating a bug is.

Auzy wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 00:34
Look guys, the reality is, all the bugs I've seen reported here, aren't specific enough and developers can act on them at all. And because there is no feedback loop, it doesn't help (they cant contact the poster).

So posting specific bugs here is stupid. Use launchpad instead. Thats got a feedback loop and better tracking.

So +1.

None of the bugs here will be fixed because its all "Fix rhythmbox crashing on me" blah blah blah. But no clues to developers whatsoever why its crashing because theres no crash dump, or anything.

Auzy wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 01:03
oops, rather developers CANT act on them

tohomas wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 01:46
I would like to thank you for this post. You are correct 100%. These should be new ideas or new enhancements to the OS. I have had to down a lot of ideas for the fact they actually are bugs of third party software.

I tip my hat to you!!!

Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 03:27
You shouldn't use this place to SUBMIT bugs.
Then they will never be fixed. Waste of your time.

You can however, use this place to vote on an bug you submitted to launchpad.

So, submit bugs at launchpad. Does the bug affect a lot of people and is the priority to low for your taste? Link to it from a brainstorm and let people vote.


shevegen wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:36
I somewhat agree but also disagree on this.

I think the brainstorm concept is very good, but it could be improved somewhat. In reality I actually have not seen many bugs in relation to non-bugs here.

Eldmannen wrote on the 16 Mar 08 at 14:54
Report bugs here;
* https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/

leu wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 15:12
I just want to say, that you are a 100% right!
This is not for reporting bugs, because it is a waste of time.
Ubuntu brainstorm is not constructed to handle bug-reports.

I want to go a step further: Bug-Reports should be deleted with the comment that the author should go to launchpad and report it there.

Thank you very much for your idea.

nand (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 22 Aug 08 at 22:31
Hey,

The new idea submission pages should make it now clear that Brainstorm is not for bug reporting! See the preview here: http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/24 .

saivann (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 19 Jan 09 at 15:53
+1, The new brainstorm website makes it clear and obvious. Marking as implemented.

Thanks for your participation in brainstorm!


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