Idea #4522: Install build-essential by default

Written by adityakavoor the 13 Mar 08 at 19:16. Category: Installation.
Related to: Nothing/Others. Status: New

Description

Much needed.

No point in installing at a later date.

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Ubuntuforums.org thread #635752

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Idea #12702: Ubuntu should have build-essential installed by default (16 votes)

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alvevind wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 20:04

Ubuntu default is for regular users, not developers. Regular users should not need to compile their own packages. We would have to sacrifice other stuff to get the developer tools into the CD. Developers tend to have easy internet access and enough knowledge that they are not crippled by not having the build-essential by default.

spyyder wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 22:07

Except regular user often do have compile their own package. Seriouslym I dare you find a "regular user" use Ubuntu for a week without havening to compile something. This should be defult.

ideasman42 wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 22:29

I rated this down, agree for normal users its not needed.

adityakavoor wrote on the 14 Mar 08 at 02:26

What is the point in having it in the live cd and not installing it by default ??

madhusudancs wrote on the 14 Mar 08 at 02:44

I somehow with adityakavoor has said. Ok I understand that while including packages in the LiveCD and while selecting packages to be installed by default there will be lot of sacrifices done, similar to the movie editing process. But these days C is becoming such a basic knowledge that almost nearly every student of every discipline will be taught to write C programs. Anyhow if you feel I am only talking in the students' perspective, why cant we(Ubuntu) have custom LiveCDs like what Fedora people have, I mean the Spins?

madhusudancs wrote on the 14 Mar 08 at 02:44

sorry for the errors. *I somehow agree with what ,,,*

endeavor wrote on the 14 Mar 08 at 11:58

If you need to compile something, then install it. If a regular desktop user has to compile an application, then Ubuntu has failed as a desktop OS.

aysiu wrote on the 26 Mar 08 at 19:52

Normal Ubuntu users (non-developers) install and use build-essential. See this poll for more details:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=193862

You can also read the forum thread I attached to the proposal in order to get more background information.

davidakablaz wrote on the 11 Apr 08 at 05:24

I agree with adityakavoor. this is already on the live CD but not installed by default.. it wouldn't hurt if this package would be installed when ubuntu is installed.

I proudly rated this up :D

lucky.developer wrote on the 5 Aug 08 at 14:30

there is no use in not having build-essential by default. i know world is wrapped by internet but what about developing countries. New users/ say 'new users becoming developers in ubuntu' in these developing countries may not know everything about this 'should install build-essential' to compile their c programs(for example). they may not know that its in the live cd. Ubuntu is all about giving users all the tools.

The simple build-essential package being installed by default surely is not going to take away any features from ubuntu... its going to add some extra comfort to developer users.. :-) and they can start their work right after they install the os

samcan wrote on the 10 Aug 08 at 15:29

Wouldn't it be a security issue to have compiling tools available by default?

I remember reading in a Linux security book I have that all compiling tools should be removed from server, etc. Something about a cracker could compile their own versions of hacked utilities, such as ls.

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