Idea
#4468: Add support ext4fs filesystem for installation by default
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Written by develvic the 13 Mar 08 at 11:20.
Category: System.
Related to:
Nothing/Others.
Status: New
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Description
Please add ext4fs and choose for installation...
Reasons:
1. Speedup file removing
2. Better and faster allocator
3. Bigger max file size
4. Precision timestamps
5. Bigger max number of folder inclusion
6. Faster indexation
7. Faster checking
8. Re-allocation for better video recording, torrent downloading etc.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
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Auzy wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 11:46
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Dupe of 4467
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develvic wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 12:57
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No, 4467 dupe of 4468 :)
Please vote here
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AndrewC wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 13:48
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Last time I checked, ext4 support in the kernel was still experimental. If that's still true, including it would be a bad idea. It has really great improvements over ext3, but let's wait until it's finished.
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develvic wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 16:04
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ext4 is just the successor of ext3, a true and tested, stable and faster file system. I was satisfied with ext3 and I suppose ext4 will only improve it.
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sam wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 16:54
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Wikipedia: "The filesystem is currently marked as developmental " Link; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext4
Its in the latest Fedora; let them try it out first;-)
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Eldmannen wrote on the 13 Mar 08 at 20:20
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ext4 is beta. It's not ready yet.
Ubuntu will support ext4 when its ready.
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 17 Mar 08 at 12:37
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Please note that ext4 is likely safer than reiserfs, xfs and jfs. The ext-guys just have different reliability standards.
Also ext4 is backwards and forwards compatible. So you could just mount as ext3 or ext2 and access it in _that_ mode, or use ext4.
Thirdly, there are some important performance improvements. (things like tracker will suddenly not suck anymore)
So it will keep hard-drives alive a longer time.
It will close a number of 'annoyance' bugs with tracker and the performance of apt-get/dpkg/synaptics/etc.
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Ralf.Nieuwenhuijsen wrote on the 17 Mar 08 at 12:49
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What about nilfs instead of ext4?
It is completely transaction log-based, high-performance with internal snapshotting. (ie. be able to roll back all your data to a specific date).
Its like having source-control built in. And it has checksums.
Which is a very neat feature as well.
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behavedave wrote on the 13 Apr 08 at 11:25
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"Please note that ext4 is likely safer than reiserfs, xfs and jfs. The ext-guys just have different reliability standards"
That's why I here so many problems with jfs, xfs and jfs, all of no problems that is!
That's why I here so few complaints about ext*, performance issues and lengthy 'filesystemcheck' don't bother users one bit.
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gQuigs wrote on the 10 Jun 08 at 15:09
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How about making default for intrepid?
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Auzy wrote on the 11 Jun 08 at 01:56
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How about, similar to the first one, we wait for EXT4 to be stable before discussing it again.
Its too early to say anything, and this is idea is pointless at the moment (it should actually be closed until EXT4 is closer to stable)
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ghindo wrote on the 7 Jul 08 at 22:19
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It's an awful idea to include ext4 BY DEFAULT before it's even hit a stable release.
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velja27 wrote on the 11 Aug 08 at 21:38
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Let the others test it,not the end users.Ones willing to test it will do so IMO.
Ubuntu shall have it in full stability and usability,when its ready.
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DPic wrote on the 11 Aug 08 at 23:47
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We included firefox 3 beta, we are including openoffice 3, and those are jsut a couple examples, but we can't support ext4?
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Auzy wrote on the 12 Aug 08 at 00:19
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@DPic, There is absolutely no comparison whatsoever. Because unlike Openoffice or firefox, EXT4 being unstable could potentially lead to kernel panics, or serious data loss.
I used Reiser4 when it was in beta, and it was NOT worth it (kernel panics occasionally, and I lost my whole filesystem once).
There is no benefit offering unstable file systems to people, because:
1) EXT4 will not encourage people to use Ubuntu over other distributions when its too unstable for normal use.
2) The small amount of performance nuts out there, probably have so much data anyway, they wont be willing to use it.
Either way, there is nothing I'd call innovative or new with EXT4. I still consider it a traditional file system. I'd be more open to the idea if it had innovative new features like ZFS.
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