http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/4242/
This is confusing. Consistency throughout Ubuntu would be great.

added;

1. Copy & Paste of all types of content between apps
2. Drag-and-drop working for all apps
3. Or CTRL-C/CTRL-V as standard key, but with an exception for the terminal, or a different 2-key combination.




[773 votes] Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #4242


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That depends on the program. And for a lot of things, like the termal, ctrl+c already has a meaning and I don't think anyone is willing to get rid of it.]]> Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:52:58 +0000 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 17:57:54 +0000 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 18:41:05 +0000
Ubuntu is a desktop distro willing to develop an easy to use environment, therefore consintency is important.

And yes, CTRL-C is a basic key for controlling your programs in a terminal, so, maybe a different key combination is better :-).


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Also see Idea #583 which says that if you try to copy/paste vector graphics between apps you are further out of luck.

This is where the X11 "mechanism not policy" fails. There needs to be policy, probably at the level of something like the LSB (Linux Standard Base) that says "your app ain't done until it can copy/paste in the following approved way".]]> Tue, 11 Mar 2008 22:56:40 +0000 Tue, 11 Mar 2008 23:48:47 +0000 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 03:58:42 +0000
And yes, it's really application-dependent.]]> Wed, 12 Mar 2008 04:32:04 +0000 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:14:20 +0000 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 09:36:46 +0000 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:01:33 +0000
This is probably more of an issue for certain application developers or the Gnome folks though.
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Some examples:

gnome-terminal paste = shift+insert for mouse-select paste
gnome-terminal paste = ctrl+shift+v for gnome clipboard paste

Yes, there are TWO paste buffers.. the mouse select + middle mouse button/shift+insert AND (shift+)ctrl-c/ctrl-v


Did i say two? I meant three!!
You can also DRAG and DROP with mouse-selections (i think this is also a copy/paste) try it:

1) Open a firefox and a OO-writer;
2) Surf to a webpage with firefox
3) now select something on this page
4) drag this selection to your oo-write document; voila, HTML-source of your selection is in your oo-write document

Now try a ctrl-c of the selection in ff and ctrl-v it in your oo-writer... different result, now the html is 'somewhat' interpreted by oowriter.

Each time different results...

Freedom of choice; sometimes its good, sometimes it really needs unification]]> Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:16:02 +0000 Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:45:32 +0000 If you change it in the terminal, you will break all skripts and programs that have evolved in the last 20 years on millions of systems, which cannot and mustn't be done.

I'll give you my vote, but think that this is not necessary. I use Kubuntu (KDE Ubuntu) and have so far not found any instances (except the terminal) where the copy paste does not work.
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I'd like to know what GUI designers think about this 'issue'.
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As an alternative that might have more support, allow the user to set it as they want, but warn them that it might be overriding a specific apps settings. That way we can decide, instead of the os deciding for us.]]> Fri, 14 Mar 2008 05:51:54 +0000 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 12:16:56 +0000 Fri, 14 Mar 2008 19:40:08 +0000 Sat, 15 Mar 2008 09:47:11 +0000 Copy should do the exact same thing as Ctrl+C in all cases (except the terminal).

It is infuriating when I select a bit of text in Pidgin, right click to copy it, then go to another tab within the same application and attempt to paste it only to get blankness.]]> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 06:45:42 +0000 In practice, I do not really have a problem, but i still agree that this should unifiedly work.]]> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 14:49:47 +0000 Ctrl-C in terminal is probably going to be impossible to change anyway (and what about Ctrl-X? 'Cut' doesn't even have any meaning in the terminal)]]> Wed, 19 Mar 2008 09:57:25 +0000 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:56:39 +0000
CTRL+C, X, V as copy, cut and paste are probably the most commonly used shortcuts. They should be consistent *everywhere* - including terminal. This helps everyone - especially newcomers to Ubuntu.

Just because someone arbitrarily picked CTRL+C for 'close' in terminal in 1984 is not a reason to keep on doing it. This is known as 'progress'. For those who want to live in the past, they can change copy and paste to be different in every app if they want.

P.S. For those who seem to think consistency is something trivial or irrelevant, please search for 'ui design' and educate yourselves.]]> Sun, 06 Apr 2008 13:27:46 +0000
The common GUI operations are associated with the command key, and the common CLI operations with the control key.

For example, command-a selects all text, and control-a moves the cursor to the beginning of the line, in all text fields. Copy and paste are command-c and command-v everywhere, including the terminal, where control-c and control-v are 'break' and 'insert literal', as expected.

It's too bad something similar probably isn't feasible in Ubuntu.]]> Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:20:50 +0000
"P.S. For those who seem to think consistency is something trivial or irrelevant, please search for 'ui design' and educate yourselves."

http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct

Thanks for your comprehension and for your participation.]]> Fri, 11 Apr 2008 05:44:29 +0000