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KawF
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 11:09
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Disk Manager looks like a great addition to Ubuntu, and something I've been missing for quite some time.
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There are a few items on this theme. The inclusion of DM or Gparted in a default install would be a grat improvement.
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This is something that should just work, and shouldn't need configuring. I voted NO, because I don't think the solution is to throw in yet another cofiguration utility.
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BungaMan
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 21:01
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You may want to have a utility in case the "just work" doesn't just work...
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There are cases where you might change these things manually. For example, I have two different partitions for different versions of Ubuntu. When I launch one, I would like the other not to appear.
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RainCT
(Ubuntu developer)
wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 12:49
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AFAIK Disk Manager is already in Hardy.
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Mmm, I also think that this kind of problems should be solved automatically without needing to configure anything. For example, if the partition table has changed.
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Great Idea, it would help a lot of people!!!
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Marlo_nl
wrote on the 11 Mar 08 at 19:04
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I fully agree that Ubuntu needs a tool, be it GUI, automatic or both, that will assist users to keep the information stored in fstab in line with the actual HDD partitioning.
Especially on multi-boot systems where changes to HDD partitions and/or adding additional HDDs can be done outside the Ubuntu OS it should be possible to "sync" the fstab information using other means than a terminal and text editor.
I consider the lack of "intelligent" fstab management a missing (fundamental) feature of the Ubuntu OS.
Regards, Marlo
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gnarlin
wrote on the 20 Mar 08 at 18:10
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Also, at what point do you actually have to get your hands dirty and be force to, you know, learn something!
If you assume that all users are idiots and then you design a system for idiots only idiots will be willing to use it.
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I love this idea! I went and downloaded the utility right away so I could configure my new slave!
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"Also, at what point do you actually have to get your hands dirty and be force to, you know, learn something!
If you assume that all users are idiots and then you design a system for idiots only idiots will be willing to use it."
Please find a different distro to use and contribute your ideas there. Ubuntu is for real people who want to USE their computers to accomplish useful tasks. They expect system-level details to be handled automatically, as they should be. There are plenty of other distros for people who want to dig around in the guts of their computers, learn how to program, etc. You'd probably enjoy one of those.
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gotta love the screenshots with misspellings/typos in them :)
Seems like this thing is just an fdisk editor with gnome-style notifications. Why use this one as opposed to any other option? (I'm downloading it now, so I can see for myself, perhaps.)
NTFS write is easy - install ntfs-3g, and you're done. It disables the read-only ntfs support on install. The install could be done with a checkbox in Add/Remove. Keeping track of disk space is provided by a wealth of utilities; I use gkrellm on a regular basis, but the gnome system monitor does this and there are gnome applets that do it, too.
One last note; removing the fstab file is a very bad idea. There is no need whatsoever to use the fstab for all filesystems, but there is nothing wrong with it as a place to store filesystem options. I could see the merit in having a per-user fstab, which would be checked by the automounter if you are logged into the console when you plug a device into the host, or if you are logged into a remote host, then when you connect a network block device. These files would not be used at boot and so would not conflict with the system; just give a config option for which file wins in the case of a conflict (you could even have a filesystem option to override which file wins, ala the CSS !important directive.)
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andersja
wrote on the 14 May 08 at 11:42
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@amaranth - that screenshot looks cool. I still really like the "automagic" notifications in the Disk Manager screenshots in frandavid100's posting above. Perhaps the existing code can be made secure & patches submitted upstream (if security really was the issue? )
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uaneme
wrote on the 14 Jun 08 at 06:14
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this diskmanager looks fab though many of it should be added to gparted (setting the mountpoint for instance)
+1 for better disk management
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aelfwyne
wrote on the 15 Jul 08 at 06:20
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This SERIOUSLY needs work.
I have two external USB devices that are always on, never turned off. Yet every time I boot up, they change places. One time, I'll have to mount /dev/sdb and /dev/sdc1, then next time I have to mount /dev/sdc and /dev/sdb1. Gnome's automount doesn't like one of them (the one with no number on the partition) for some reason, but it works if I put them manually in fstab. Unfortunately - I have to edit Fstab almost every time I restart my computer to flip-flop the id's.
Any kind of better disk manager would be a huge help in situations like this - as would a better automounter (another idea)
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aelfwyne
wrote on the 15 Jul 08 at 06:21
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Unfortunately, the download link for Disk Manager seems to be dead.
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argh0
wrote on the 16 Jul 08 at 14:57
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We just had a discussion on that topic on the french ubuntu forum .
It appeared that mounting partitions can be a problem faced by newbies in their first Ubuntu days, and that they are afraid of changing manually fstab. And, for begginers, the fact that there is a GUI for doing it is not easily found in the documentation, and the links are broken or the installation is too complicated ( for 8.04, you have to compile yourself disk manager !).
So the idea is to have :
- a good automounting system - which let people write on external disks by default
- tools in the "system" menu integrated in the distribution : disk manager and gparted, because both can be useful for beginners.
Last thing, having it in the "system" menu will permit people to resize ubuntu partitions from the live CD, and that can be useful for a lot of people !
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argh0
wrote on the 16 Jul 08 at 15:16
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There is a graphical tool that modify all the settings of ubuntu, including splash screen, fstab, grub, loaded services when start.. : "ubuntu manager". See project page (sorry it is in french) , link of the .deb for Hardy : http://tavux.info/?page=download&id=13 .
What do you think of it ? I may say, it is very useful, but it is too much windows-setting-panel-like for me !
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Xepra
wrote on the 17 Sep 08 at 23:40
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I too have had problem with drives renaming themselves.
The gui based diskmanger I tried to use in the past was Gparted, but this was horribly, horribly, slow and buggy. In fact it scared me so much I went to a cli, just because I was afraid Gparted would break something.
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imho this should be implemented to also offer a simple way of force mounting volumes... I hate whenever a friend of mine throws a usb pen at me and I have to go "soo umm.. could you plug it back into your windows box and remove it properly?" - who ever does that ? I have never done it and never had any issues with not doing it when I was using windows.. but today my ubuntu system couldn't even mount the windows partition, which is like 9/10 my entire harddrive space until I do a complete format.
please fix this nonsense :)
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rafttrip
wrote on the 24 Nov 08 at 02:39
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I have had similar problems myself and I completely agree. Forcemounting should be an easy option... yesterday my computer shutdown unexpectedly because of a power failure and when I rebooted I could not mount my external HDD until I rebooted to windows.
This needs attention ASAP
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I notice that many people would rather mount a new [larger] drive on their most full directory (e.g.: /home/), then move their entire install over to the new drive, if they knew this was an option. Most newbies not only wouldn't know they could do this, but if they did, they probably wouldn't be able to figure out how to mount the new drive, put their data (e.g.: /home/*) on it, remove the data from original location, and then edit fstab so that the directory is the mountpoint.
Sorry for the novel, but we really need an app that can do all that, and we need it in the default install.
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Endolith
wrote on the 17 Jun 09 at 02:45
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This idea cannot be implemented since Disk Manager is dead. Can we merge it into one of the other more general ideas instead, like Graphical Fstab Editor?
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Endolith
wrote on the 17 Jun 09 at 02:51
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"This is something that should just work, and shouldn't need configuring. I voted NO, because I don't think the solution is to throw in yet another cofiguration utility."
I agree that bugs should be fixed so that things Just Work out of the box.
However, you might want to do something more advanced, and this would be come useful. Like having external USB drives mounted as the computer turns on instead of when Gnome starts, so that they can be accessed remotely without a Gnome session. As far as I know, this requires adding them to fstab.
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Endolith
wrote on the 17 Jun 09 at 03:15
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Pysdm seems to work and seems stable, but it's more low-level than Disk Manager. Basically just a GUI to let you configure every last detail of fstab with a few hints.
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Please incorporate support for LVM2 & RAID
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Blueprint disk-manager-by-default:
Ubuntuforums.org thread #588816
