http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/3188/
I suggest to the Ubuntu community, we should have a unique and complete development studio, in order to create great applications very coupled to the Operating System, in order to take advantage of the environment, standardize programming languages and not to fill up the system resources with a lot of interpreters, runtime or whatever frameworks.

For example, on Mac OS they have XCode, in Window$ Visual Studio, inclusive on KDE they have KDeveloper.

From my experience, when I try to make some software for ubuntu, I find great quantity of software development tools which makes difficult the choice.

I know that freedom comes with the liberty to choose too, and is ok, but in this aspect i thought that as a community we need to follow a North, and not everyone go to everywhere without any roadmap, each one going some on foot, some on cars, and in other parts (Mac, Win) going on airplanes...

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But then:

Standardizing and the north stuff don't really make sense, ubuntu already allows plenty of libraries by default, so if you pick GTK or QT or SDL or OpenGL for your development it is not hard for ubuntu users at all,

So, that accounts for libraries. Also, unlike windows and the ridiculous visual studio philosophy, using a different IDE for your program does not change how it works or what it requires, so unifying (forcing) everybody into a single framework will just remove our choices and not help anyone.

Choice is not a bad thing, and in my opinion that it is difficult to choice is a great thing, means there are plenty of good stuff out there, instead of you being forced into the single one.]]> Wed, 05 Mar 2008 03:23:49 +0000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 01:45:08 +0000 Thu, 06 Mar 2008 07:25:30 +0000 * C
* Python
* Pascal
* Java
* ...

And IDEs? Editors? Databases? Documentation?

Each programmer uses different languages or dev tools.

A distribution with a lot of dev resources may be so heavy... Isn't it?

PS: I voted up this idea.]]> Thu, 06 Mar 2008 17:29:30 +0000
C/C++ on GNOME desktop: Anjuta
C++ on KDE desktop: KDevelop
Java: Eclipse or NetBeans

You say: "From my experience, when I try to make some software for ubuntu, I find great quantity of software development tools which makes difficult the choice."

I don't agree that choice should be limited.

People seem to think you mean "let's make a special developer edition / distro of Ubuntu". My opinion: No! There are already enough Ubuntu editions (Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Edubuntu, ...). You could make a meta-package that installs a whole set of developer tools with one command, but there is no need for a completely separate edition of Ubuntu.
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Ok then.]]> Fri, 07 Mar 2008 18:47:13 +0000 Mon, 10 Mar 2008 09:05:27 +0000
They take care of themselves, don't they?]]> Sun, 16 Mar 2008 22:37:42 +0000
Done.]]> Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:22:42 +0000 Sun, 23 Mar 2008 11:16:24 +0000 Sun, 30 Mar 2008 23:01:23 +0000
One should be be able to write programs in any language in the IDE, finally all code should be able to compile as binary thats able to run on Ubuntu. If a programmer wants to create a installer, the IDE must automatically generate a dot deb file!

One must have the freedom to integrate any compiler into the IDE other that the defaults that are available.It must be much more than NetBeans and Visual studio.

Good idea.]]> Thu, 08 May 2008 01:51:04 +0000 Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:31:30 +0000 Sun, 10 Aug 2008 04:40:39 +0000 ]]> Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:18:39 +0000 Fri, 05 Sep 2008 10:51:33 +0000
Think Ubuntu Gnome Desktop as an example of a choice made for you that you can later change. Yes there is some good gui's but most are not geared towards GUI programming or the fundamental knowledge necessary to write applications are huge.

The help and API help system need to be improved the GUI designer and integration into the IDE's need to be improved.

Most programmers coming from Visual Studio or Delphi will not be able to punch out a linux application in a day or two. This is a fundamental flaw as far as I am concerned. With a good IDE (yes Anjuta is getting there) it should be possible for even a beginner to build a quick GUI app and have it do something. But to get even that fat you have to read several tutorials and understand programming and API's and, and ....

Why not an IDE as simple as Delphi that allows a beginner programmer to play and build something in minutes. This is to me one of the most important and fundamental concepts and something that needs to be implemented to get especially young enthusiast into programming on linux.
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