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Idea #2840: Don't mark totally different ideas as duplicates

Written by yman the 3 Mar 08 at 20:18. Related project: brainstorm.ubuntu.com. Status: New
Rationale
The following idea of mine is marked as a duplicate:
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1159/
yet the so-called duplicate is totally different in almost every aspect:

Idea #69:
*Update the partner repository more frequently.

Idea #1159:
*Allow easy installation from 3rd party repositories through web interface.
*Packages from 3rd party repositories should get updates, if possible without adding the repository to sources.list.
*A mechanism for purchasing software licenses online and managing them transparently without messing with product keys or the like.
*An API for apps to check if the user signed on them has a license to use them.
*Some form of protection, such as encryption, for commercial apps.
*Verification of license ownership every time a user wants to update commercial apps.

If you vote for this idea, it doesn't mean you vote for idea #1159 or idea #69. It simply means that you clearly see these ideas are not the same and shouldn't be marked as the same. They don't share goals, and they don't share proposed solutions, so it's best to keep these vastly different ideas apart.

Idea #69 aims for the provision of up-to-date commercial apps.

Idea #1159 aims to encourage and ease 3rd party software distribution, whether commercial or not, while providing a standard user friendly way of dealing with commercial software.

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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #2840
Written by yman the 3 Mar 08 at 20:18.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #2840 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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yman wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 20:34
Would some please explain why 2 totally different ideas should be marked as duplicates of each other? because the only thing these 2 ideas share in common is that they talk about software repositories. Last I checked, not all ideas regarding improvements to brainstorm were market as duplicates of each other just because they share an identical subject. Here, the subject is't even identical, only similar.

Arnaudus wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 20:43
Come on, why are you proposing an idea just to fix ONE mistake? It is clear that someone marked those ideas as duplicates, and an admin merged them too quickly (maybe). So what? I don't see your point. It's clear that two ideas are never exactly the same, so the grouping thing is subjective.

yman wrote on the 3 Mar 08 at 20:59
Well first off, the goals, proposed execution and approach are all different.

Second, I had no idea what else to do.

If one idea says to get more apps in the commercial repository, and another says to update the commercial repository more frequently, then they are both centered around the same thing, but put the priorities differently. keeping them separate would then allow to tell whether users prefer more commercial apps, or that those available would be up-to-date. Quantity VS quality.

Here however, it's one idea that is for a centralized approach, and only is relevant to the partner repository, VS an idea that is all for decentralization, removal of the partner repository, and is not specifically only for commercial apps. These 2 ideas are opposites, but they are marked as duplicates of each other.

shadowfirebird wrote on the 11 Mar 08 at 12:13
it's not just one mistake. I've seen several of these.

saivann (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 11 Mar 08 at 23:28
yman : Thanks for posting your ideas. If you want this problem to get solved, I invite you to vote on idea 3795. I'm a moderator and this problem affect me too in the sense that I can misunderstand ideas and set false duplicates, I feel uncomfortable that the users have no way to warn me or to do something to fix the situation. I believe that your idea is not realizable in the sense that we can't "be perfect", and no moderator voluntary set ideas as duplicate when they should not but I really agree that this situation must be fixed. Thanks for showing your opinion!


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