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    <title><![CDATA[Create a "works with Ubuntu" logo for hardware]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/2718/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[Whenever users plan to buy new hardware for their ubuntu machines, they first have to search the web to find informations about kernel/driver support or incompatibility issues.<br /><br />It would be really helpful if a sticker on the outside of the box of a scanner/printer/usb-dvb-tuner/mp3(ogg)-player/digicam/... simply said "works with ubuntu" or "designed for GNU/Linux" to guarantee that the product runs "out of the box" with Ubuntu or other Linux distributions.<br /><br />http://www.flickr.com/photos/darkomen/155060941/<br />http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/88743/next/<br /><br />Edit (2008-03-04): This project seems to be on the road already: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/hardwareprogramme<br /><br />
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<b>[2161 votes] Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #2718</b>
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  <title>Comment from marvo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This could be connected with<br /><br />idea #2381: Form an Ubuntu Hardware Alliance similar to the Open Handset Alliance]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 13:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from marvo</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I dislike commenting my own posting, but the "edit" icon seems to be out of order...<br /><br />Just wanted to add this to the list of similar ideas:<br />idea #2230: Reward hardware manufacturers that create drivers for linux<br /><br /><br />...and after you bought your new Ubuntu-capable hardware:<br />idea #2090: send "powered by ubuntu" stickers in cd´s]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 14:10:06 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Alexfighter</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I don't know if it would be for good or for bad but, in case this receives a yes, I would go for a subtitle on the sticker with three options:<br />1.- Proprietary driver<br />2.- OpenSource driver<br />3.- Generic driver<br /><br />Mostly for option 3, as it would be a pain for a non-geeky user to install the hardware and see that it doesn't work with all the characteristics or something. Maybe that third option shouldn't be considered a "Works with Ubuntu".<br /><br />Anyway, I think this, and the whole thing about the sticker, could be a double edged knife. Look what happened with the "Vista Capable" sticker, and it's Windows.<br /><br />A lot of thinking should be put in this issue before deciding to go forward with it.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Vadim P.</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I do have a "powered by: Ubuntu linux" sticker on my system76 laptop :)<br /><br />I think they give out free ones on their site too (somewhere on system76.com)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:57:40 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from HOLOGRAPHICpizza</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This would be a great idea! But probably expensive.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Nomax</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Great idea! It would eliminate "X-Fi" type of deception. But why not a more general "Works on Linux OS" label (with the well-known penguin)?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Nomax</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Sorry I meant "Linux Compatible".]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Arnaudus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Actually, it is probably difficult for a manufacturer to put the sticker: works with Ubuntu. We have to admit that each new version brings some regressions, how many wireless cards, how many printers worked e.g. with Ubuntu 7.4 and not 7.10? What should do a manufacturer with trillions of printers with the Ubuntu sticker, while the printer doesn't work "out of the box" with the next Ubuntu? What if the printer works, but not the USB bus? The customer will plug-in the material, and nothing works. So: I'm not sure it is so simple. If the manufacturer support Ubuntu, then Canonical has to make sure that the material is also supported by Ubuntu. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 20:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from xiota</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If I understand this idea, it's for devices, not computer systems.  So a video card might have a sticker that indicates it works with Ubuntu with an open source driver...  The problem with that is what if other distributions decide they want to make their own sticker, then hardware manufacturers may need to put half-a-dozen stickers on their boxes?<br /><br />It would probably be better to try to collaborate with other distributions to design a distribution-agnostic sticker program.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from wile_e_wonka</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This idea would obviously be a huge problem.  <br /><br />I think we have seen the issues Microsoft had with this.  <br /><br />Ubuntu shouldn't do the "works with [x hardware]" thing because it opens them to major problems when something doesn't actually work very well.  So Ubuntu would have to put major resources into making sure their claim is correct, then deal with the effects of it not being correct.  <br /><br />In other words, I think the idea is great, but the implimentation would be terrible.  ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 22:32:11 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from SilentSquall</title>
  <description><![CDATA[@ Vadim P.: http://system76.com/article_info.php?articles_id=9]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from samurailink3</title>
  <description><![CDATA[As wonka stated, if Ubuntu claims this, it needs to back it all up with two things:<br /><br />One - Make sure hardware doesn't break from version to version.<br />Two - Put forth an amazing amount of effort to make sure the product works fully and as intended to work. This is easy to do for some devices (A speaker set for instance), but harder to do for others (Graphics cards, ATI, I'm looking at you).<br /><br />On a side note, why limit this to Ubuntu only? I'm aware it's easier to make something work when the drivers are in the repo, but why not have OEMs include a disk with the device drivers in different flavors (source tarball, deb, rpm)? Then there can be a "Compatible with Linux" sticker instead of Ubuntu only. I believe this would be better for the entire Linux community as a whole instead of just Ubuntu. Ubuntu is a heavy hitter, why not spread the love?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 23:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from miroku</title>
  <description><![CDATA[thanks Vadim P.<br /><br />i sooo wanted that sticker when i first saw it and 2 minutes later u provide me  with a link. awesome!<br /><br />and yes, i totally agree but there are issues as others have mentioned -- lets put stickers on some of them and slowly move onto more n more, thats my solution =]]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 04:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from some_random_noob</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Time to start contacting manufacturers?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from hackel</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This is needed, but is outside the scope of Ubuntu.<br /><br />An independent certification body should be established, which manufacturers can pay to have their hardware tested for Linux compatibility and the right to use the logo.  In order to pass, the manufacturer would have to provide Free, open-source drivers which allow 100% of the functionality of their Windows counterparts (unless somehow limited by Linux itself, in which case it must be clearly printed on the outside of the box).]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 08:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from tomatz</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Great idea hackel!<br /><br />......the manufacturer would have to provide Free, open-source drivers which allow 100% of the functionality of their Windows counterparts.<br /><br />But!<br /><br />This simply isn't going to happen (yet) linux just is not popular enough for it to be an incentive businesses to spend money creating software then releasing there (usually patented) software to the community to be modified. This is just an alien concept to most manufacturers at the moment.<br /><br />All we can do is just keep on doing what we are doing grow this community and when (not if) we are big enough. They'll be running to us arms open lol. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 09:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Estesark</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I just want to echo what wile_e_wonka said. This would be more trouble than it's worth.<br /><br />I also have a feeling that Canonical will not want to adopt this, no matter how many up votes this idea receives.<br /><br />If this does go ahead though, I think it should be limited to hardware which is either supported with a default installation, or requires only packages from the "main" component to function. It should also function at least as well on Ubuntu as it does on any other operating system.<br /><br />I just think it's a bad idea though.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from azimout</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Sounds like you are talking about this:<br />http://www.canonical.com/services/certification]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 15:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ScreenOrigami</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I recently bought a Sun Workstation because it was <a href="http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/sun">Ubuntu certified</a>.<br /><br />It was the first time I based my purchase decision exclusively on a label instead of thorough internet research, and all I can say is it felt good and still does. It's a great computer and works flawlessly with Ubuntu, as advertised. So I do wish we had this option for more products. :)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 17:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from nand</title>
  <description><![CDATA[As pointed out by marvo, <br />=> "This project seems to be on the road already: http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/hardwareprogramme"<br />Now it's the manufacturers' time to move!<br />Setting to Done.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 22:24:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from dracus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[WOW what a great Idea I might be able to finally browse at a consumer electronics store and tell if the thing I am buying will work when I get home. ]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 14:05:35 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from iamthemicrowave</title>
  <description><![CDATA[great idea]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 17:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from keen101</title>
  <description><![CDATA[good idea. Of course, I hope manufactures are willing to do it.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 05 Mar 2008 18:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jam</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Well I think if they could get this working okay, making sure it does actually work etc. It would be one of the best things they could do!<br /><br />And if the hardware didn't work on a certian version, they could put: 'Works With Ubuntu 6.04 +'<br /><br />Jam :)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 13:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ampers</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Nomad wrote: <br /><br />Great idea! It would eliminate "X-Fi" type of deception.<br /><br />I have finally come up with a solution for my X-Fi card. I am selling it on eBay and replacing it!]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 15:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from browny_amiga</title>
  <description><![CDATA[That is one great idea!!!<br /><br />There are devices out there that work easier than with Windows (read: no driver install, no fiddling around with install CDs) and it should show on the package.<br /><br />Get the manufacturers to include the logo. It will also boost their sales and make their product more attractive.<br /><br />Opposition and sneaky blackmail has to be expected from M$ on this one, pushing the OEMs to not show this logo<br />The desktop is the holy grail for M$ and they are fighting tooth and nail to loose it. (but they will)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 01:57:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from vaska</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please add complete support of multipurpose devices Epson, it would be desirable that worked not only HP. The scanner in Stylus CX4300 is not defined in general, and the printer works not correctly.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 12:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from AnRkey</title>
  <description><![CDATA[http://webapps.ubuntu.com/partners/system/#af<br /><br />Our list of partners is small..... 10 partners? How effective is this campaign so far?<br /><br />I hope it takes off, it would be nice to buy more hardware like this.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 23:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cambuntu</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The original poster seams to be talking about external hardware such as webcams,printers,scanners, etc. Just like you see a retail box with "Windows" or "MacOSX" on the side, it would be great to see a "Ubuntu" sticker on the side. The link given above under developers comments.(http://www.ubuntu.com/partners/hardwareprogramme<br />) just talks about desktops, servers, laptops (ie whole computers).]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 07:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from neon</title>
  <description><![CDATA[rofl.<br />look at the number of votes. XD]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 05:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from stoffel</title>
  <description><![CDATA[(See also this brainstorm idea that was wrongly marked as a duplicate of Idea #14434)<br /><br />-1: Labels such as Works on Ubuntu, Works on SUSE, Works on Debian, Works on Fedora, Works on Linux Mint, and so forth create confusion:<br /><br />1) When the box of a hardware device contains 10 such labels for 10 different Linux distributions, the user will be confused.<br />2) When a specific distribution version is listed, the user will be uncertain whether or not the device will be supported in more recent versions of the distributions. As Linux distributions are fast moving, it is very likely that this will happen.<br /><br /><br />"Works on Linux" is meant to reduce all this confusion. Using such a label, the hardware vendor and Linux distributions supporting this program, both will *guarantee* the customer that the hardware device will work out of the box (no unfriendly driver installation needed as on Windows) for (let's say) 10 years.<br /><br />So, when Aunt Tilly buys an advanced bluetooth mouse that has the "Works on Linux (2008-2018)" label on the box, she will know:<br />1) All basic features will work<br />2) All advanced buttons of the mouse will work<br />3) The mouse will work for sure in *any* Linux distribution supporting this program (*) released in 2008 until 2018<br /><br />(*) Of course, the usage guidelines for the label will require Linux distributions who want to use the label, to actually support the label. If they don't, the Linux Foundation can and should sue them in order to protect the value of the label.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 18:30:30 +0000</pubDate>
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