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AWN should be installed by default and auto-start in Ubuntu.
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I hate docks. It's one thing to have it easily installable - lots of people like AWN and the like. But a panel, for me, is more functional, more attractive, and less of a space hog.
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jimmux
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 02:51
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I agree with not having it installed by default. A panel that behaved more like a dock (i.e. combines launcher and window manager in one, with option to show icons only) would be ideal for me.
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sirex
wrote on the 29 Feb 08 at 08:37
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Dock is much more useful than panel, it looks really better, and has much more functionality. So I thing that Ubuntu should have Dock installed by default in default Ubuntu theme.
Of course there should be both, panel at the top of screen and Dock at the bottom.
I really like functionality of dock, when at the same tame you can use same icon as application launcher and task manager. In panel you have an icon for launching application, and a big button for each application, that works as task manager. I thing this is unneeded duplication of functionality. Because most of the time you use icon to launch application only once, and then why not to use same icon as task manager?
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I'd like a dock if it had a launcher that opened up whatever ads you want like the Launch button.Eye candy could also be added to the dock.
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AWN won't work for people who don't have expensive video cards. Plus, AWN doesn't support vertical alignment. The developers keep saying they'll add vertical alignment functionality, but don't. Actually gnome-panel doesn't really work well vertically either: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/1906/
Anyway, I am all for the idea of gnome panel acting more like a dock. A Dock is basically a Window List without text and a few of the items in the list are persistent when not running. Seems like it would be easy to hack the Window List to behave this way. It might even be better if they left the text. Just so long as they make it usable vertically for us widescreen users!!!
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No way! -1 and I wished I could vote multiple times here. AWN is a pure Mac OS X feature clone and adding by default it would make Ubuntu look cheap - like a Mac OS X for poor. GNOME already looks much like Mac OS X does, but AWN would make it even more noticeable. You can't make a better product by copying existing ones.
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"You can't make a better product by copying existing ones."
cmon now...
one person isnt going to think of all the ideas. youre going to have to copy or borrow other good ideas to make your own better. docks are a good idea, for them to come by default isnt that great of an idea, but an option to use one would be a great idea, giving more choices and making ubuntu more appealing to users who prefer docks
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ubby
wrote on the 12 Mar 08 at 18:15
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This is a very good idea!
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AWN exists because (some) people like it.
Gnome Panel exists for the same reason.
If there is enough interest in both (which there is) then surely there should be a choice. You can still have a default, but let the user choose.
Couldn't the Appearance menu have a tab to switch between popular panel/ dock systems such as these? Maybe including Gimmie if that floats your boat.
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jah
wrote on the 14 Mar 08 at 14:27
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The simple way would be to just add new types of applets to the gnome panel/kicker/xfce-panel and so on:
A launcher that would double as a dock and systray. Would either launch, switch to or display a menu/list if multiple instances of the program are running. Currently some programs may be represented three times on the panel, which makes no sense.
A im applet with a menu of contacts; pidgin, kopete etc. backends.
A themeable analog clock, showing calendar on click.
The idea is that you could gather all of the functionality of the gnome-panel or kicker into a set of icons, each of which would act a bit different depending on the underlying app. Some functionality could alse be outsourced to desktop widgets. Programs also should move towards tabbed ui's where possible. This would eliminate a lot of doubled functionality and would make for a more intuitive user interface. Remember the times when cell phones used to have incoming and outgoing calls in separate menus?
Building these applets on already existing panel solutions in different desktop environments would be a no-brainer, the outcome would not be cpu/gpu intensive and would garantee smooth integration.
A thumbs up by me.
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I voted this up because it does NOT ask for a dock to be the default. It only asks for integration. Personally I got as far away from the default look of Ubuntu as I could, because I think it looks clean but incredibly boring :)
With that said, you should install gdesklets and try the "StarterBar" desklet. It's a mac-dock-like launcher which does not require compositing and which has bouncy icons. If that's what you're into, all you have to do is "apt-get gdesklets-data" and start playing around.
*I* propose that gdesklets-data should be part of ubuntu-desktop (though not ubuntu-desktop-minimal, which I hope will happen in the next release... pretty please?)
I personally am using avant-window-navigator with xserver-xgl and compiz+emerald. The only big problem I am having with this combo right now is that you have to go specify that fullscreen apps are not decorated (although the fullscreen option DOES work, I have it mapped to Super-Enter but I think it defaults Super-Alt-Enter or something) and that you can't change resolution without specifying DISPLAY=:0 for nvidia-settings or gnome-screen-resolution because for some reason there's no XRandR support in Xgl - at least not as it is configured by default.
I have in fact turned off my gnome-panels entirely (and deleted gnome-panel from my session) and I use trayer set transparent and with the Window Rules plugin set to keep it on the bottom. This denies me access to a thin strip of desktop across the top of the screen but is otherwise inoffensive. I really like controlling the computer this way (note: I think Apple's unified menu bar is retarded, so I don't have anything there - to each their own, though!) but I ALSO think it would be BRILLIANT if there were a dock-like gnome-panel-applet. It wouldn't look the same (unless you made your panel transparent?) but it would be the most integrated way to bring a dock into GNOME. The second-most-integrated way is just to use gDesklets with StarterBar, which is plenty integrated if not amazingly featured.
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@brettalton: (holy schnikies, it's here, too - what did you do, search on "AWN" and spam this comment to every idea that mentions it?) that patent will never hold up to a legal challenge.
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cheesehead
(Brainstorm admin)
wrote on the 13 May 09 at 01:15
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avant-window-navigator is currently in the Ubuntu repositories.
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dei
wrote on the 27 May 09 at 11:01
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for the guys who dont want to use compiz (for gaming, java or battery reasons): In jaunty you can enable compositing in metacity (for example with ubuntu-tweak) which enables you to run all beautiful docks without compiz(-fusion) including the nice new notifications.
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Use gnome-do in docky settings.
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