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Idea #2302: Recover ideas in brainstorm that are marked duplicate, but aren't

bug This idea is a duplicate of Idea #3795: Create way to dispute "duplicate" flag on brainstorm.
Written by kab the 1 Mar 08 at 20:42. Category: Others. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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There are many duplicates now that are marked as duplicates, but in reality they are targeting completely different targets. There should be a way to recover these ideas. I also don't understand why ideas with over 100 votes marked as duplicates in favor for their "originals" who get only under 10 votes.
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Solution #1: Auto-generated solution of idea #2302
Written by kab the 1 Mar 08 at 20:42.
Ubuntu Brainstorm was updated in January 2009. Since the idea #2302 was submitted before this update, its rationale and solution are not separated. Please vote accordingly, and if you have the necessary rights, please separate the rationale from the solution. Thanks!

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cheesehead (Brainstorm admin) wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 20:50
"To sheep, other sheep no doubt seem quite different", but to us a duplicate is a duplicate is a duplicate.

It's not about the author, it's about the idea. The community will evolve the idea away from the author's vision anyway.

Auzy wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 23:00
I've seen many which are duplicate which are are talkign about. It shouldn't be about the votes. When push comes to shove, they may be slightly different ideas, but when implemented come out exactly the same

rawsausage wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 00:50
Some people are attempting to solve the problems with exact tools. That's wrong approach come whining about "hey but I meant this, it's slightly different than that other idea" when they in the end of the day are solving the same problem. The real problem is the focus, not splitting hair.

shadowfirebird wrote on the 10 Mar 08 at 21:22
No, it's not about the votes, or about the author -- it's about the idea being lost because it's been marked as a duplicate for a completely different idea.

apogee wrote on the 12 Mar 08 at 14:46
The idea is NOT lost. It is linked to the other and they both survive. Each idea is stronger by the mere fact of being linked.

Proof that the ideas are not lost, but are linked, exist on this very page:
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Duplicates
Accepted Idea #3167: Not a duplicate button on duplicate ideas (10 votes)
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dustigroove wrote on the 3 Apr 08 at 01:45
Actually if the ideas aren't truly the same then yes, the idea very much IS lost (or more aptly, hijacked).

The idea that is marked as the "duplicate" by default will no longer show up in searches unless a user explicitly chooses Advanced Search and then marks the Show duplicates checkbox. Additionally these "duplicate" ideas will not show under any of the topical categories linked to in the top left navigational links on all Brainstorm pages. This omission from regular searches and category links impacts an idea's ability to (A) garner new attention, (B) be voted upon, and (C) gather feedback from other users.

Sure, the idea is linked to from somewhere within the "master" idea, but if the reader is expecting the ideas marked as duplicates to be just that, duplicates, then they will not likely be bothering to read them right? Not exactly making "each idea stronger by the mere fact of being linked". Add to this the fact that vote tallying isn't equally reflected amongst each idea that is tethered, and that makes a false duplicate essentially a death sentence for an idea.

Having a way to fix any erroneous linking of ideas that may occur should be trivial and would only benefit us by allowing ideas to thrive, or die, on their own merits.


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