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Idea #2295: Graphical GRUB with easy and advanced recover and backup system options



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Written by nq6 the 1 Mar 08 at 20:22. Category: System.
Related to: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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Graphical GRUB with easy and advanced recover and backup system options


The Ubuntu GRUB would have extra options:
- Backup and recover of the system
- Access to the secondary kernel versions list
- Memory Test
- Recovery Mode.

See the Blueprint below

Blueprint
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I developed a Blueprint of how all this would be, making possible the graphical visualization of my ideas. I'm sure that all of it is easy to implement, because the tools to realize these processes already exist.

With this we would have a more organized GRUB, and with options that a lay person would know how to deal with in case of a wrong configuration of the system, recovering it on accessing the essentials backup files of configuration. Or in a worse case, even the entire partition image, where the problem is unrecoverable even with the recovering of the system files.

Ubuntu already have the recovery mode option on GRUB, but it's only accessible and usable by Geeks, Hackers, and advanced users. Never a lay person newly arrived from Windows. What sense make access Linux in text mode? A lay person would recover what? And how?

There are available applications like the Simple Backup Suite - it depends of the system are already logged in to access the backup - and a command like dd that makes a image of the entire partition, and it depends of a another similar command at that command line:
gzcat -dc hda.img.gz | dd of=/dev/hda

My suggestion is that Ubuntu do it all automatically and make available a entry on GRUB to recover the system. Like we can see, the tools already exist, it only need to be better used.
These backup files would stay in a another partition, available to be accessed and used to recover the corrupted files on the install partition. I think that would be essential Ubuntu create a second (2ยบ) partition for Home and these backup files, because if the partition get corrupted, we still would have another partition with these files.

Beyond that entry on GRUB, the backup configuration would generate a bootable CD that are capable of recover the GRUB, in a case of a install of Windows later than Ubuntu's. How a lay person would access that GRUB, if it disappeared, and with that same CD - he beyond of recover the GRUB - would have access to the system backup, and the previous entry's generated.

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Created by nq6 - http://nq6.blogspot.com/
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cheesehead wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 21:09
Kitchen sink, too.

This is not an improvement over existing backup and restore tools. It makes grub needlessly complicated, and duplicates grub's efficient command line.

Xan wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 10:52
good if you could edit the other OS's you have and disable autoupdate of grub.conf any time that grup updates in system (a symbolic link vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old are enough; and so Actual kernel and Old kernel entries in grub menu)

Xan.

tgape wrote on the 28 Jul 08 at 13:29
The only addition to grub over what is already there is the backup/restore part. *This* should *not* be part of grub. There is *NOTHING* about backup/restore which should require one to shut down ones system to do it.

The rest of this is already covered, except for the part mentioned only in the title. I personally see no reason for grub to be graphical instead of text. The text mode works just fine, and it's virtually never seen anyway.


I suspect that this is a confusion of several ideas:

1. graphical goodness on the recovery portion.
2. add manual backup tool option on the login screen (do you really want this? I personally would *NOT*, due to security concerns.)
3. Separation of 'primary' kernel with older revisions. Listing the primary kernel first and having it default chosen is apparently insufficient?


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