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Idea #22562: Redesign the CD Boot Menu

Written by anzeige the 20 Nov 09 at 17:59. Related project: Live CD. Status: New
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Redesign the Menu of the CD to something looking smoother and better for new Users

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Solution #1: Graphic Boot Menu
Written by anzeige the 20 Nov 09 at 17:59.
Example:
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Solution #2: New picture and positioning.
Written by przemo_li the 27 Nov 09 at 19:50.
Use mockup form Solution#1 but also add mouse support and high resolution.

And add smooth conversion form menu to splash.
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Solution #3: Use a different menu
Written by Glennz the 29 Nov 09 at 11:12.
Use the background from the karmic GDM and place some easy to understand buttons with mouse support.
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Solution #4: add backup options and system info to menu
Written by tommynz1975 the 5 Dec 09 at 05:46.
People we don't want to get to the stage of other OSs that require you to continuously get new hardware with every release.

But the biggest cry seems to be needing to backup your system before an install.

Have the backup, backup systems or files of your choosing including MBR and other things that made the system boot nicely before hand.

Have the backup and I guess restore utility know what to do with the backup.

System info might examine the system and give its two cents worth on how well Ubuntu will run on your system, it would also display and allow you to save the out put.

This could be useful before loading the live cd.
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Solution #6: Add install/configure boot manager
Written by Klau3 the 5 Dec 09 at 20:39.
When installing Windows after Ubuntu (for example Windows 7) than it would be nice to be able to install grub just by inserting the Ubuntu install CD. This feature I was missing often and I don't understand why it is not available right now.
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Solution #7: #1 + Add more configuration ... disk and mbr config
Written by nckuhuahua the 6 Dec 09 at 08:33.
Add boot manager to fix grub if it is corupt corrupt
Add disk manager (GParted) if one want to modify disk
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Solution #8: Only on Desktop
Written by anzeige the 6 Dec 09 at 10:21.
Make a Menue like this only on Desktop CD.

Old Menue Style on Server and Alternate CD.
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Solution #9: Try, Install (Clean), Install (Dirty), Upgrade, Test
Written by rrnwexec the 6 Dec 09 at 19:52.
This solution builds on #1.

There should be two additional options to cover the cases where:

1) Users are upgrading from a previous version of Ubuntu. (Upgrade)

2) Users want to contribute to solving Bug #1 "Microsoft has a majority market share"".
a) The "Clean" option: Install Ubuntu and remove Windows.
b) The "Dirty" option: Install Ubuntu and share the disk with Windows. Risk continued monopoly.
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Solution #10: High resolution with more options
Written by DrG the 8 Dec 09 at 11:35.
( karmic )
At present the Graphic Boot Menu is handled by isolinux.
If you take the option for a live section , the splash screen appears .
It has got a high resolution . The files are situated inside initrd.lz
It can be changed to give all the options listed above , with more options ( animation ; may be sound and mouse ) . ( will be more comfortable than developing isolinux )

Disadvantage – It may take some 10 sec to reach the menu ( This can be solved by an optional entry in isolinx boot screen to go to the original one or adding an option to go to the the improved menu to the existing menu - making the improved menu optional)
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Solution #11: Dont forget allow easy instalation even without a mouse
Written by la_serpe the 8 Dec 09 at 21:06.
Imagine that someone has a problem with the mouse. He or she should be still able to install the system.
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Solution #12: #1 + Add the option 'Recovery' to fix/reinstall GRUB from LiveCD
Written by tiagoscd the 16 Dec 09 at 10:31.
The option to recovery the boot/MBR and reinstall GRUB.
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Solution #13: Use GRUB 2 and BURG
Written by DrG the 8 Jan 10 at 16:59.
BURG is a program based-on Grub 2,BURG uses new menu list,screen layout and shortcut keys that all easily customized.

See - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Burg

A sample showing Grub with different OSs ...
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Similar can be designed for CD Boot Menue also .
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Solution #14: Add "Upgrade" entry to the boot menu of the Alternate CD
Written by Monika the 10 Apr 10 at 21:03.
It looks like for many users the "intuitive" way to try to upgrade with the Alternate CD is to boot from it and then they are confused because there is no "Upgrade" option in the start-up menu. So it would be good if it were possible - if this is technically easy - to upgrade by booting from the (Alternate) CD, too, or - if this is technically impossible or hard - to add a menu entry "Upgrade note" that, when selected, tells the user they should boot into their to-be-upgraded system and then put the CD into the tray again and which commands to use in case it is not detected as an upgrade volume automatically (like here http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading#Upgrading%20Using%20the%20Alternate%2 0CD/DVD ).

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screennameless wrote on the 20 Nov 09 at 22:17
A problem with that idea is that it would have to load all drivers for more advanced graphics and mouse support before you actually selected an option, which would slow down CD load time considerably. Or maybe not, I'm not too familiar with programming boot CD's...

snostorm wrote on the 20 Nov 09 at 23:42
While I like the idea, I'm not entirely sure how practical it is, particularly with regards to mouse, which would seem to require loading X. On the other hand, if Moblin can handle loading a complete OS in five seconds, I'm sure we can handle a selection screen in two...

McIvor wrote on the 21 Nov 09 at 01:00
Love the mockup. Reminds me of the Mandriva menu (which is very nice). One thing though, I'd reword the last one to "Test your RAM" so people don't think its a game :)

anzeige wrote on the 21 Nov 09 at 10:59
Ok, Computer Diagnostic sounds really better ;)

Some other Linux Distros even uses Menues like this...
Sure it will need some seconds more to load, but it could be a cool way for new users.

manuelciosici wrote on the 21 Nov 09 at 12:33
Can't the navigation be based solely on the keyboard so that we don't require X? eg. use un/down arrows to navigate and Enter to select.

manuelciosici wrote on the 21 Nov 09 at 19:56
@AndrewLuecke
But not supporting mouse would not be a step back from the current implementation which only supports keyboard. So, it would be a step forward for non-impaired people and no step back for people with disabilities.

On the other hand the current way of installing an OS requires keyboard (select boot device). So, for now, I don't think there is a great focus on making a OS easier to install for people with muscular issues. Even if Ubuntu would have a friendly installer for those people, they would still need to use the keyboard to boot from the cd.

robinparriath wrote on the 22 Nov 09 at 05:10
I like the idea, but Test mem/test RAM/Computer diagnostics should be under more options.
The third option should be reserved for boot from local hard disk.

zsolt320i wrote on the 23 Nov 09 at 19:24
+1!
I like this idea, it should be implemented.

zsolt320i wrote on the 23 Nov 09 at 19:24
+1!
I like this idea, it should be implemented.

Dim wrote on the 24 Nov 09 at 23:45
like it. Agree with robinparriath, third option should be "boot from hard disk"

alexander255 wrote on the 25 Nov 09 at 16:34
What about GPM? Wouldn't it do the job well enough?

Shoudn't it be "Boot normally" instead of "Boot from hard disk"?

ubuntu4life wrote on the 27 Nov 09 at 18:03
I like the idea, but i'm not sure how it would practically work.

+1 though...

sebastienfm wrote on the 28 Nov 09 at 12:39
A more graphic boot menu could be really nice. That's giving a better first idea of the distibution.

SgtH3nry3 wrote on the 28 Nov 09 at 18:23
And X Window system would be great, with a fallback to the old menu if the graphics hardware isn't supported or the X server not booting up for some odd reason.

GRUB should have an X Window solution aswell, with the ability to fallback to the old text-based system.

shababhsiddique wrote on the 30 Nov 09 at 13:12
The Idea is great, but keep on mind to keep the boot screen resolution low by default, or make a self test for appropriate resolution.

tommis wrote on the 30 Nov 09 at 19:06
Is it bossible to add mouse support to ubuntus cd boot menu??

kidmodify wrote on the 30 Nov 09 at 22:08
I like the idea, but is it worth the effort to develop it. There seem to me to be so many more pressing issues that would help noobs more than giving them the use of their mouse when booting from the CD.

OpenNingia wrote on the 1 Dec 09 at 11:19
There is no need for X. Nobody is asking for window management in the boot menu but a simple background plus nice font rendering, mouse and keyboard handling.

This can be done even with 640x480(400) screen resolution.

I'd say the most difficult part would be text rendering, so it's worth the effort to develop it! :)

+1

nsynet wrote on the 5 Dec 09 at 02:21
Today,I want to backup my computer(linux mint +win xp) ,and I find Ghost can't back linux partition,so I find a open source backup software-clonezilla.

In fact,the linux user is also a windows user,and a boot CD can add more function,such as backup tool(like clonezilla) and other system diagnostics software,will be more attractive for both linux and windows user.

danne wrote on the 5 Dec 09 at 17:10
Graphic menu on desktop edition and text mode on server.

slsolaris wrote on the 5 Dec 09 at 19:27
with all due respect.. I do not think this is a good idea... do not make things more buggy that they are... there are more important things to care about.. I think we are OK with the actual design

loveandequalityforall wrote on the 6 Dec 09 at 03:07
The text feels a little clunky, as if it were written by a non-native English speaker. Here is my suggestion:

Try: Run Ubuntu without making any changes to your computer.

Install: Make Ubuntu your Operating System.

Test Memory: Test your computer’s internal memory with MemTest+

Why do you need to test memory? come on. Just do: Install or Try

put the memtest in the “More Options…” menu. Anybody who’s actually going to use it won’t mind going through one menu to find it.

Madsrh wrote on the 6 Dec 09 at 11:14
I believe it has been suggested for 10.10 to start X before presenting the user with the choice to install or try Ubuntu.

Nice mockup, but the blue background seems a bit too "K" for me ;-)

neojames wrote on the 6 Dec 09 at 20:07
The problem with this is that it would be more likely to fail, would take longer and still wouldn't be much more easy to use. The idea of a menu revamp is good but mouse support isn't necessary at that stage. Apple boot cd's have mouse support because it is tailored to the computer entirely and still takes ages to boot from!

uriahheep8787@aim.com wrote on the 16 Dec 09 at 12:43
Solution #9:hahahaha =))

SteelCore wrote on the 17 Dec 09 at 04:34
A very good idea although the memory test option should probably removed as a normal user who wants to reinstall won't understand the purpose of it. Or even better still gather all the technical options under one category 'Advanced Options' for example. If advanced option must be put on the first window they should be fully explained and clarified.

rm-rf wrote on the 1 Dec 11 at 00:08
the test memory part CAN'T be used though. that is something that needs to be handled at boot up, which is controlled entirely by the boot loader (which can't handle fancy graphics)

rm-rf wrote on the 1 Dec 11 at 00:08
the test memory part CAN'T be used though. that is something that needs to be handled at boot up, which is controlled entirely by the boot loader (which can't handle fancy graphics)


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