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Idea #21337: It would be nice if in Nautilus ...

Written by l3on the 6 Sep 09 at 20:50. Related project: Nautilus. Status: New
Rationale
It would be nice in Nautilus ...

... when you select some files:



the info in the Properties window:



was also included in the sidebar:

Tags: nautilus

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Solution #1: Use the code
Written by l3on the 6 Sep 09 at 20:50.
Insert some function calls at the Properties tab code in the Information sidebar.
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Solution #2: Copy only the general properties.
Written by matthewp the 7 Sep 09 at 16:36.
This could easily be too much information, cluttering Nautilus and making it confusing. This goes against Gnome usability principles.

Instead, a few basic fields could be picked (perhaps the "General" section?), and those could be displayed. I.e., Show the title and duration, but not framerate or resolution.
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Solution #3: Make the Nautilus-code more general so anything can go into the sidebar
Written by vhindriksen the 7 Sep 09 at 17:29.
See for example the side-bar of browsers like Firefox. So just let any code run in the sidebar (in a separate thread, so it can crash on its own). Output can be html or some specific xml, as long as perl-scripts can spit it out.

One serious problem with this solution is security, since the script is auto-run for each file/directory.
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Solution #4: Showing only important information
Written by Klau3 the 7 Sep 09 at 18:51.
In most cases, the average user doesn't need more information, possibly the framerate, but not much more.


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Solution #5: Implement Addons
Written by mahajanudit the 10 Sep 09 at 10:40.
The reason firefox and songbird for that matter have become so popular because they support addons, so any additional functionality can be implemented by users.
I think nautilus is a pretty stable product in itself but it lacks user-friendly aesthetic functinality. So for that addons can be implemented.
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Solution #6: Make this optional and configurable via preferences
Written by LaMeR the 10 Sep 09 at 20:18.
1. Let the user set which information to show in the sidebar.

Example options:
For one selected file show in sidebar:
- General info - similar for most file types (thumbnail, type, size,...)
- File specific info - different for most file types (for example video files info: duration, resolution, bitrate, codec,...)
- All info = General info + File specific info

For multiple selected files show in sidebar:
- General info - number of files, size of files,...
- File specific info - number of files for each selected type (6 images, 13 videos,...), size of files for each selected type,...
- All info = General info + File specific info

2. Make it possible for user to completely turn this feature off, because some users may have slower computers or want to use the sidebar for bookmarks etc.
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Solution #7: sidebar should automatically change to "info" after selecting a file
Written by haran_elessar the 14 Sep 09 at 02:37.
I think that extra information is neat but it would be better if the left pane just changed automatically when I click on a file instead of having to choose "information" from the menu to see the details. the way I see it, most people like having the places view and they would have to change it to "information" each time to see the info just by left-clicking.

Now if nautilus would automatically change from places to information whenever you select a file then I think that would be very handy.

Optional extra idea: how about if that sidebar would show some other info automatically. For example, say I'm selecting many files from a folder, wouldn't it be neat if the sidebar would show me small thumbnails of all the items I have currently selected? (similar to Picasa's tray) That way it serves as a double check that I'm actually copying all the files I need. Then after pasting the sidebar would just go back to show the "places"option.

As it is right now, not many people are using that drop down menu. It's sad since now that I tried it I see it can be useful and even more if the feature you are requesting is implemented. Still, I don't think I would be using "information" as my default sidebar BUT if it was automatic as I mentioned above I think everyone will benefit from it.

what do you think? can that be done?

edit: As some users have suggested this feature should be configurable, allowing users to turn it off completely, showing only certain kind of information and generally behaving like users want it to behave.
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Solution #8: Dual pane capability
Written by daashali the 14 Sep 09 at 05:55.
I think its better if nautilus can have the second pane like Krusader.This can increase productivity significantly. But implementing the second pane without proper shortcut keys like Dolphin is terrible.
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Solution #9: Implement a second sidebar for information
Written by daashali the 14 Sep 09 at 06:02.
I think its better to implement a second side bar on the left side for the purpose of showing information an previews. changing the sidebar functionality every time you want to view the information or traverse through file system is not such a good idea in my opinion.
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Solution #10: Show basic information below places view
Written by daas88 the 14 Sep 09 at 20:16.
When using the places view it would be nice to have a small area for basic information in the lower part of the side pane. For example: file size, format, resolution, duration, framerate. Of course, it would depend on the file format.
And in my opinion no thumbnails or icons are needed, because nautilus already shows them.
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Solution #11: Make sidebar more dynamic
Written by alx321 the 4 Oct 09 at 08:50.
Many ubuntu users don't even know that it is possible to change the content of the sidebar. The dropdown menu is very unhandy.
I propose to replace it by tabs with small icons and make it dynamic. That is, you can drag the tabs to another position, so that, for example, 'information' is shown beneath 'places' or in a second sidebar at the right or lower border.
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Solution #12: Combination of "Use the Code" and "Optional and Configurable via Preferences"
Written by billdotson the 4 Oct 09 at 17:15.
Combine "Use the Code" solution with the option to configure it.
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Solution #13: Add nautilus option to show file info in a popup bubble
Written by oliver-joos the 5 Oct 09 at 14:23.
I propose to add a Nautilus option to pop up a light yellow bubble with basic file info when the mouse rests on an icon for a second or so.
The option should be very simple: on/off or none/brief/verbose. The file-type decides what info is shown.

Advantages:
* no mouse click needed
* no second/dynamic/changing pane needed
* plays well together with the audio preview feature
* the mouse is on one icon at a time => the info is clearly related

Propose your solution

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cheesehead (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 7 Sep 09 at 07:18
Why just Nautilus? Why not the other File Managers?

l3on wrote on the 7 Sep 09 at 07:40
I don't know. I love nautilus so I suggested idea just for it :D

Well, the idea can be also extended to the other File Managers.


Have a nice day,
Leo.

vhindriksen wrote on the 7 Sep 09 at 17:31
Never, ever duplicate code! A coder spoke.

But the code might be reused or even the output can be reused/cached (since you don't want to scan the files twice).

zephyrcat wrote on the 7 Sep 09 at 19:40
+1 for vhindriksen. Functions exist for a reason.

onesimus wrote on the 8 Sep 09 at 07:51
What would the file manager display when multiple files are selected ? What would it display when these are of different types ?

oleastre wrote on the 8 Sep 09 at 08:09
@onesimus: for me, mutiple file selection should show you the number of selected files, and the selection size on disk.

Klau3 wrote on the 8 Sep 09 at 09:02
When multiple file are selected show 'Compress files' instead of the 'open with Movie Player'. Other information like oleastre says.

cos wrote on the 8 Sep 09 at 10:28
Awesome idea, +1 for solution #3. Another coder spoke.

I haven't looked into the nautilus codebase, or toyed with it extensively, but I know there are plugins for it. If this can't already be done as a plugin, the plugins system should be extended to support it.

Bonus points if we can have many different flavours of plugins in the repos for people to personalise their interfaces.

l3on wrote on the 8 Sep 09 at 10:49
My "copy the code" means "use the code". Another coder spoke to some pedantic coders. :)

Penguin Guy wrote on the 10 Sep 09 at 15:04
#5: You already get nautilus extensions and scripts.

http://www.gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=188&PHPSESSID=9119abade240709f b2114892a2fe246a

LaMeR wrote on the 10 Sep 09 at 19:38
This idea is nice, but what about people who wants for example to have bookmarks in sidebar or don't want to slowdown their system by this feature? So I suggest make this feature optional so user can define sidebar behaviour in Nautilus preferences.

Klau3 wrote on the 10 Sep 09 at 22:00
This feature is optional right today. You can choose if you wish to see 'places' or 'information' or ....

The idea aims just to improve given information. Maybe it would be nice if the user could have both, 'information' field and beneath the usually activated 'places'. This would allow the user to have easily more information without loosing the simple navigation task.

qwerty800 wrote on the 11 Sep 09 at 01:24
I wonder how could an idea with a such imprecice title, and a "solution-rationale" managed to be approved by the mods, but also to get on the front page!

mat128 wrote on the 11 Sep 09 at 15:53
Is this in the new nautilus?
I'm on 9.04 using nautilus 2.26.2 and heres what I have:
http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/6646/screenshotvideosfilebro.png

I dont even get the info for the selected file!

l3on wrote on the 12 Sep 09 at 09:07
@mat128: it's just a mockup.

adisk wrote on the 12 Sep 09 at 10:46
Not need.
I not use sidebar.

haran_elessar wrote on the 14 Sep 09 at 02:32
i don't know if this speaks more of me than of Nautilus but I've been using Ubuntu for almost 4 years now and I had never noticed there was a drop-down menu there!

I think that extra information is neat but it would be better if the left pane just changed automatically when I click on a file instead of having to choose "information" from the menu to see the details. the way I see it, most people like having the places view and they would have to change it to "information" each time to see the info just by left-clicking.

Now if nautilus would automatically change from places to information whenever you select a file then I think that would be very handy.

I just got another idea, how about if that sidebar would show some other info automatically. For example, say I'm selecting many files from a folder, wouldn't it be neat if the sidebar would show me small thumbnails of all the items I have currently selected? That way it serves as a double check that I'm actually copying all the files I need. Then after pasting the sidebar would just go back to show the "places"option.

As it is right now, not many people are using that drop down menu. It's sad since now that I tried it I see it can be useful and even more if the feature you are requesting is implemented. Still, I don't think I would be using "information" as my default sidebar BUT if it was automatic as I mentioned above I think everyone will benefit from it.

what do you think? can that be done?

mat128 wrote on the 14 Sep 09 at 15:04
@l3on: thanks!
@haran_elessar: I think thats a great idea (auto switch to information) but it has to be configurable. not everyone might like it.

haran_elessar wrote on the 14 Sep 09 at 16:57
@mat128 You are right. I made an edit to include that. For me, everything should be configurable, it's something so essential that I always assume it should be there and I forget to mention it :D

kyrandesa wrote on the 21 Sep 09 at 07:57
I usually have the tree view of the file system on the left hand side and I'd hate having it disappear every time a click a file; additionally dragging and dropping of files into different folder in the tree would be more difficult.

It would, however, be nice to have the whole thing in an extended statusbar at the bottom of the window (or on the right hand side for netbooks to save on screen real estate). In the statusbar it would be available, but not in the way.

hoppimike wrote on the 4 Oct 09 at 11:22
This is a cool feature and would really help, but bear in mind it's already in Dolphin as well as I'm sure many things we would like to see on Nautilus. If at some point we do switch onto KDE, these features are in fact already implemented :)

billdotson wrote on the 4 Oct 09 at 17:17
There needs to be a way to switch between different window managers, etc. easily. Switching between dolphin, thunar, nautilus should be painless.


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