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Idea #2129: Statements when voting against an idea



bug This idea is a duplicate of idea #1102: Vote only when you comment..
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Written by dominik.mayer the 1 Mar 08 at 11:39. Category: Others.
Related to: Nothing/Others. Status: New
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Ask for a short (!) statement before someone can vote against an idea. This would help to avoid misunderstandings and frustration and lead to discussion about the ideas. I'm not sure if it's good to mix them up with the comments.
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sammyf70 wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 12:05
I definitely understand where this comes from.

One of my ideas (shameless plug : it's #367 ;) that was as far as I can see not gnome or 3rd party related, and which from my and some other people's point of view made sense, was downgraded to -5 in a matter of minute without any hint what was wrong about it.
If I missed something in my reasoning, I'd be more than happy if someone at least told me what's wrong with it.

Sadly, forcing a comment is probably not going to work. Most people will just enter random text and press submit :(
I'm not downgrading your idea though, because some sort of solution would be indeed nice.

Arnaudus wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 13:55
I understand your frustration, but you can't force people to justify their vote! That's the way this brainstorm works, it's a bit unfair but the devs seem to want a general opinion of the community. For instance, you can be sure that "Fix Firefox because it does not work well on Youtube" will have +10000, while "You should compile libcc with the -O3 tag" will have -200, because votes are unlimited and people for "against" when they don't understand the idea. Life is unfair! :-)

andrewfenn wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 14:26
Just get rid of the damn vote down button, so stupid to include it anyway.

sammyf70 wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 14:40
Arnaudus, you'd get my vote ;)

probono wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 17:13
Voting against something should be possible only with a 1-line explanation

Bram S wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 20:01
i vote against this idea.

why?

reason: djfklsjakljfsdklafj

(ie its not gonna work, people can just type gibberish to vote against. if people wanna discuss, let them, if not, dont enforce, the registration is allready enough of a check)

solid_liq wrote on the 1 Mar 08 at 23:42
Most important reason to not do this: IT WOULD STOP PEOPLE FROM GIVING THEIR OPINION MOST OF THE TIME!!

This is like saying, "You should be forced to give your password every time you want to run a program, even if it doesn't need root privs, just ask for it anyway!"

vron wrote on the 2 Mar 08 at 08:09
I vote against that becouse:
- people will type meaningless comments ("sdsjdsiusoi" or "don't like it"),
- the list of explanations will became overloaded with lots of frankly identical reasons and as a result - useless,
- this will only change proportions - not very popular ideas will not be voted against BUT they won't be voted for either,
- there are already 86 pages of ideas which I am browsing at the moment and dislike most of them. If I had to explain my point of view (sometimes obvious reason, sometimes already stated by someone, etc.) every time I would rather left it unvoted which would make intentionally unvoted ideas (those which you are not sure about) AND ideas unvoted becouse of laziness, lack of time or lack of deeper sense (again: repeated reasons), etc. equal.



regards,
vron


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