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    <title><![CDATA[optimize shutdown time]]></title>
    <link>http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/21170/</link>
    <description><![CDATA[While Ubuntu shutdown time isn't typically very long, the time may still matter when one needs to turn her laptop off to catch a bus, or reboot a system with strict availability requirements.<br />
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<b>[377 votes] Solution #1: define a shutdown speed goal</b>
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<b>[348 votes] Solution #2: Define goals for sleep, hibernate</b>
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<b>[186 votes] Solution #3: Work on Multi-Threaded Startup</b>
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<b>[-91 votes] Solution #4: Offer a "quick shutdown" option</b>
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    <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 12:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from yzarc</title>
  <description><![CDATA[shutdown time is not a big deal, since it's within a ranger of few seconds. what a mean is if it takes too long, it's a problem but spend dev resources to push shutdown time from 7 to 4 seconds doesn't worth. my opinion. :)<br />-1 solution 1.<br />+1 solution 2.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 17:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cyberix</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think shutdown speed is important because it defines how fast the user can "get rid" of Ubuntu. If it is not too hard, then the user might use Ubuntu another time as well. :-)<br /><br />I agree with sleep/hibernate, but they don't work on my system anyway, so I haven't considered them.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Hibernation is a classic linux problem. If you go to the "most popular ideas ever" page, you'll find it there.<br /><br />It works on my laptop, but it takes bloody ages.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 18:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from coolen</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I think the shutdown speed is already good. Unless there's something wrong with the system, it takes a matter of seconds.<br /><br />I mean, really, if ~10 seconds is going to make you later for your bus, perhaps you need to organise your time better. Any number of intervening events could delay you far more than that.<br /><br />So, while I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea, I put down a don't care for solution #1, +1 for solution #2.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 24 Aug 2009 22:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from ikajaste</title>
  <description><![CDATA[It's a good idea to define a speed target for shutdown - however I believe the current shutdown speed would meet that target.<br /><br />Suspend/hibernation speed is a lot more important that shutdown speed, because those are much more likely to be used in a hurry. (That is, if the user actually happens to be in the priviliged few that are even able to use such a strange and esoteric feature as a *gasp* suspend for a laptop! Sorry for the rant, but all this suspend/hibernate stuff really, really needs to be fixed...)]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:48:45 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I remember reading that Linus and his boys made some good progress with that in a recent version of the kernel, but I can't find where I read it, or what version of the kernel.<br /><br />Anyone here have any idea?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cyberix</title>
  <description><![CDATA[As some of you might know, Apple just published their Snow Leopard operating system. The release notes state: "shutting down is up to 80 percent faster, saving precious moments when you’re trying to head home or to the airport."<br /><br />http://www.apple.com/macosx/refinements/<br /><br />Does anyone have an idea about how fast it was, or is?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:09:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from Penguin Guy</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I don't see why shutdown time matters at all. I usually press the button and just walk off - you don't have to watch it.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from kidmodify</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The only time your shutdown time would greatly matter is when you have to restart.<br />Restart = Boot time + shutdown time]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from kidmodify</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Would a multi-threaded shutdown work?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cyberix</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Hibernation/Suspend doesn't work. So when I'm running to catch a bus, I shutdown my laptop. Sometimes it fails to shutdown. Once it used all the battery life and was extremely hot after running inside my bag. Thus I usually wait for it to shutdown before putting it into my bag. Sometimes I feel I cannot wait and simply do a hard power off.<br /><br />Now, I realize this is because of multiple bugs. Fixing them would remove my problem. How ever, I do not expect all of them to get fixed any day soon. While waiting for someone to fix the core issues, a reliable and fast shutdown would serve me rather well.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 23:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cos</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Startup is already quite fast. I'm sure it can be faster, but hibernation is far behind at the moment.<br /><br />I would recommend this prioritisation of tasks:<br />1) Fix hibernation problems to a reasonable extent (I'm certain some progress has been made on this kernel-side; unsure about the version)<br />2) Make hibernation fast<br />3) Make boot faster, multi-threaded boot<br />4) Make shutdown faster<br /><br />I think at this point in time, it would be greatly beneficial to add a tux-on-ice patched kernel to the repos, in case it improves the situation for some people.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 11:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from twright</title>
  <description><![CDATA[If shutdown takes more then 2-5 seconds on a laptop it feels sluggish and some *ignorant* users will just hard poweroff all the time. Whist with ext4 hard poweroffs will usually not destroy data, they can still damage hardware and feeling sluggish damages reputation so I think that a small bit of effort to improve this would help a lot.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Fri, 04 Sep 2009 22:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from korin43</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I've always found that Ubuntu shuts down unnaturally fast (at least compared to Windows). It could be that the submitter has programs that aren't shutting down as quickly as they should be, and that should definitely be worked on..]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 01:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cyberix</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The folklore says Windows secures swap space by trashing it with random at shutdown and Ubuntu doesn't. I might be wrong. I'd assume that Ubuntu users with high security requirements would either not use swap at all, or manually configure their system to use a swap file from within an encrypted file-system.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 20:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from hackel</title>
  <description><![CDATA[A lot of work has been put into this, and I would say the idea has been implemented.  Any thoughts?  Both my machines shut down in 2-5 seconds.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 02 Dec 2010 16:34:29 +0000</pubDate>
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