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Idea #20424: Nautilus - opening a folder a new tab is cumbersome

Written by Reteip the 26 Jun 09 at 12:10. Related project: Nautilus. Status: New
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It is irritating to have to right-click and select 'Open in New Tab' in the Nautilus file browser.

There is already the option to single click on the triangle/arrow to reveal the contents of a folder in the current tab, so why not make more use of ability to open in a new tab when moving files around?
Tags: Tab

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Solution #1: When double-clicking a folder make the default action open folder in a new tab
Written by Reteip the 26 Jun 09 at 12:10.
Making the default action for double-clicking on a folder that it opens in a new tab would be a very useful, convenient, refined and user friendly enhancement to Nautilus.

The addition of having the same result for double-clicking an item in the 'Places' menu (left-hand side menu) would also compliment this. At present there is no difference when single or double-clicking a Places item.

Of course there should then be the option to change this behaviour in the preferences menu, so that a new tab is not automatically opened.
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Solution #2: When middle-clicking a folder make the default action open folder in a new tab
Written by coolen the 28 Jun 09 at 06:58.
This mirrors the behaviour of Firefox, and helps to foster cohesion of tab behaviour between different applications.
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Solution #3: Use CTRL+T for a new home folder tab, use SHIFT+CTRL+T to duplicate current tab.
Written by Michael Safyan the 3 Jul 09 at 22:08.
Make CTRL+T create a new tab pointing to the user's home folder. Make SHIFT+CTRL+T create a new tab pointing to the same directory as the current tab. Both CTRL+T and SHIFT+CTRL+T should select the newly created tab. So, to open a folder in a new tab, you can use SHIFT+CTRL+TAB and then simply open the folder that you wanted to open in a new tab.
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Solution #4: Have possibilities of tab settings in Nautilus preferences
Written by punkrtekk the 18 Jul 09 at 17:25.
There people could set up things like: Tab bar always visible; Add new tab button; Options of opening new tab (eg. if by middle or double click) or even more things.
Look at Firefox for inspiration;-)
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Solution #5: Reuse current file browser window if no need to create a new one
Written by ryanli the 20 Jul 09 at 03:56.
If a user has already opened a file browser, then if he/she tries to open a new directory from desktop, or Places menu, the directory should be opened in a new tab in the current file browser window.
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Solution #6: Copy Firefox
Written by oneawesomeguy the 21 Jul 09 at 21:09.
Since most of us use Firefox every day, why not copy the great way they handle tabs?

Middle click opens a new tab of the folder (solution 2)

CTRL + T opens a new tab of the home folder (solution 3)

SHIFT + CTRL + T undos a close tab or does nothing
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Solution #7: Add "New Tab" item to Tabs menu
Written by antaveiv the 14 Dec 09 at 11:09.
Seems wrong to be able to do everything with tabs in the menu except actually creating one

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andrew (Brainstorm moderator) wrote on the 26 Jun 09 at 12:28
As a user, I will have to vote this down unless it is purely a disabled-by-default option. If I'm navigating to a deep folder, I don't want 20 tabs open just from getting to a single, deep folder.

Fixman wrote on the 27 Jun 09 at 16:26
You can open a folder in a tab by middle-clicking it.

Ssdg wrote on the 27 Jun 09 at 21:15
There is an option in gconf editor there:
/apps/nautilus/preferences/always_use_browser

When disabled, this open a new window each time. that's a good start as long as it stays enabled by default, there could be a new option in nautilus preferences.

coolen wrote on the 28 Jun 09 at 07:03
Solution's probably irrelevant, but it doesn't make sense to change to double-clicking to open in a new tab. Anyone who's gotten used to working with tabs via Firefox, which is likely how they first encountered tabs, will know and expect a middle-click.

I'd love to be able to change the behaviour, but as a default, makes no sense.

Darwin Survivor wrote on the 28 Jun 09 at 09:59
@Fixman
You can NOT open regular folders in a new tab. Trust me, I keep trying out of habit from using Firefox.

The only folders that can be opened in a new tab by middle-clicking are the bookmarks on left hand side (left panel).

I agree with #2, you should be able to middle-click to open in a new tab on ALL folders, not just the bookmarks.

Ssdg wrote on the 28 Jun 09 at 13:45
Reteip sent me a message in order for me to clarify my last comment.

So, the program to launch is:
gconf-editor (alt+f2 or in a terminal)
it might be found in Applications>System Tools> Configuration editor (I insist, might. Because I changed a lot of stuff in my application menu)

In the left pane, you can see a "directory" tree. so double-click on the "apps" folder then "nautilus" then click "preferences".
Now, you can see the "always use browser" option in the right pane and a checkbox. switch the checkbox status (uncheck then).

Then the nautilus behavior is totally different. (I hate it, but some people can prefer this behavior).

To get back to the old behavior, just re-check the "always use browser" checkbox.

xidram wrote on the 2 Jul 09 at 02:57
@Darwin Survivor (and others):

What are you talking about? I just did it myself; opened Nautilus, middle-clicked a folder (yes, a folder in the main view; not the bookmarks in the left pane) and it opened in a new tab. Oddly enough, it works with a single middle-click in Icon View and Compact View, but in List View it takes a double-middle-click. I am using Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty with no modifications to Nautilus aside from any regular updates it would have gotten from the Canonical repositories.

Perhaps I am misinterpreting the problem you guys are discussing. If so, then I apologise. I am simply curious as to what is being addressed in either proposed solution when it seems the functionality is already present.

Reteip wrote on the 2 Jul 09 at 10:58
Ok, middle-click works with a mouse.

However I have a Netbook, and there must be lots of people that use netbooks and standard laptops without a mouse.

Ok, maybe not double-click by default, but an option for the non-mouse users would be good.

Thanks for all your comments!

xidram wrote on the 2 Jul 09 at 14:55
Ah, OK. That must be why I did not understand. Honestly, at first, I was thinking the problem may have been that those who were trying a middle-click and not getting a new tab open were on List View, which I found requires two middle-clicks; but bringing users without mice into this gets into a whole new thing.

Since I have no experience with a mouseless laptop or a netbook, I have to take your word for it. Since I can see Ubuntu, and hell, Linux in general, having a better shot at that market, (netbook and laptop,) I would definitely support a move to ease the file browsing for non-mouse users.

Of course, this is assuming you know about the keyboard shortcut Shift+Enter, which opens a directory in a new tab. I just tested this technique on all three views, and it works. (See, I am finding these things by playful experimentation.)

andruk (Idea reviewer) wrote on the 4 Jul 09 at 08:48
I would much rather have the GNOME idiots, excuse me, I mean developers use a tried and true method of browsing around with tabs than try to come up with their own paradigm. The main reason Firefox is so popular is that it was the first to do tabs *right* (IE7 and IE8 still don't, Google Chrome mostly does, Opera is a little too complex but mostly there, I haven't used Safari, and Konqueror simply copied Firefox).

Tabs are useful, but the main thing about interfaces is that they should be cohesive. Tabs should work the same way in all programs, and if you want to change their behavior, you should change the behavior for the entire system, not just a specific application. I think the best tab interface is Firefox, and I think that all Gnome programs should emulate it. I will even go out on a limb and suggest that the Gnome devs don't really listen to UI experts, and we have the jumbled mess that passes as a desktop environment that we call the Linux Desktop. Maybe if they dropped the "not invented here" attitude and started working towards solutions that worked *well* and always aimed for the *best* solution (which may *not* be their own), they wouldn't be stuck with such a small userbase. Sometimes though, I think I'm just wasting my time with Gnome; this is one of those times.

oraerk wrote on the 13 Jul 09 at 14:25
ctrl-shift bindings are often used for language switching, so it is not rather good idea to use it for tabs, middle-click is much better.

Klau3 wrote on the 1 Sep 09 at 19:02
Double mouse 3 click will open a folder as tab!


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