Written by Linux-user the 7 Jun 09 at 16:39.
Related project: Gnome.
Status: Not an idea
Rationale
The developers of GNOME are thinking about changing their interface. They want to replace the current interface (top panel and bottom panel) with something they call GNOME Shell. This new interface will have a bar on the top called "Activities". The old menu called "Applications" will be gone and you'll have to type the name of the application to start this application.
tuxxy(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 7 Jun 09 at 22:02
I have always been a fan of the standard interface, hopefully they will include an option to revert back to the classic desktop design in GNOME 3 and not force the new design onto users.
andruk(Idea reviewer)
wrote on the 7 Jun 09 at 22:26
Unfortunately Canonical is not in charge of the Gnome project, so the most Canonical can do is try to work with Gnome devs and keep the current layout.
I would be in favor of a compromise between the current layout and the new layout.
Personally, I prefer to have both solutions available in the same time. Sometimes I like to launch an application using its menu but for some applications I like typing its name. But for this last way, I think the best approach is something like the "Executor" application under Windows.
After seeing screencast, Gnome Shell looks interesting, however it would be perfect to have the possibility to expand application view into a hierarchical structure ;)
Just a "small" correction:
"and you'll have to type the name of the application to start this application" is not true. Standard program groups will be available for browsing.
Gnome-shell is changing every day right now and is in an early alpha state, so complaining that it's not what you want right now is rather silly. If you don't like it, go to the mailing list and post your ideas. Now is the time when almost everything about g-s can be changed, but it's stable enough that it won't kill your dog and family when you try to run it.
What really got my attention on the screenshot linked in this idea is that things are still huge in gnome! Why are icons and controls so big???
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but about the idea... mmm... I like menus... if I knew the name of programs I would use a terminal. BUT, I guess Gnome shell isn't only about it. (I confess: I didn't ready all links provided here)
As most new things, Shell should be optional before being standard. Then we can decide.
Darwin Survivor(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 9 Jun 09 at 04:18
Wow, that looks amazing. This new layout will definitely benefit those with widescreen monitors.
To this day, gnome is the only window manager, on any platform, that I know of that does not work properly with things put on the sides. Hopefully this new UI will fix that.
Is it just me, or do the prototypes/mockups for shell look really ugly, blocky, and cluttered?
Also, I don't see why so much effort is being put into this, compared to other things. Personally, I have been setting up my UI to be as small as possible, so that it only gives basic stats I need in the bar, and using Gnome-Do and the Compiz brand of Expose to launch and manage applications... more effort should be put into making gtk and the various gnome menus text-command-friendly; then Gnome will be able to have a tangible productivity advantage.
It should not be a problem to keep the old way (panel etc.) around while still implementing the shell. Doesn't the panel behave like a window in many ways already? (you can even see the task in the panel for a short time sometimes, you can move it with alt+click and so on)
It should not be a problem to add it to the desktop alongside the shell.
So, don't worry guys. All will be fine.
As having a choise is always better than having no one, i think it should be user's decision what interface use. Maybe installation program will ask what GNOME use after installing.
Obviously GNOME 3.0 is still early in development, but from everything I've seen so far, GNOME Shell looks TERRIBLE! It seems to go against all reason, it appears that you have to dig through lots of menus to do simple tasks that would have taken 2 clicks with the current system. It also seems to be making the assumption that everyone is using multiple workspaces, I can't stand using more than one workspace, I can't see the point in having multiple virtual desktops when everything fits so nicely on a single one. Don't build an entire desktop environment around an assumption that everyone uses a particular feature! I really hope that GNOME 3.0 matures a lot in the near future....
the good thing about gnomeshell (I just tested it) is that with a single click in activity or press on you'll have: exposed all you opened programs, list of latest files, list of latest program, menu to open new programs and also a finder. lots of key combinations were substituted by only a . that's great!
The natural drawback is that too much information must have its layout carefully studied. in the current state I think it's still a little mess.
jordm.s, I disagree with you, the gnomeshell start with a single virtual desktop, and the user add more when (iff) he need. It's much better than today that the most of the users have two o more needless virtual desktops and it isn't so natural to add or remove them.
Personally, I have been setting up my UI to be as small as possible, so that it only gives basic stats I need in the bar, and using Gnome-Do and the Compiz brand of Expose to launch and manage applications... more effort should be put into making gtk and the various gnome menus text-command-friendly; then Gnome will be able to have a tangible productivity advantage.
Isn't that very similar to Gnome Shell? They're making the hierarchical menus minimal and relying on text search instead.
As having a choise is always better than having no one,
That's not true. Having too many choices is one of the major disadvantages of running a Linux system.
I personally have 7 different panels running on my computer. I really didn't like how it was hogging up horizontal room.
Menus as follows:
TL: what i call quick access bar
TM: main menu/user swithcher
TR: system meter
CR: notification/volume
BL: Office launcher
BC: window switcher
BR: trash/clock
These are all set to autohide and not expand to take up even less room.
Of course, I personally like this interface.
I must agree with solution #1. Part of GNOME dev team should focus to polish the existing application. There is so many bugs associate to GNOME applications an no activity at all to fix those. Maybe Ubuntu can be involve more in this sense : fix bugs in GNOME apps ??
My only problem with gnome-shell is the applications menu. I highly prefer a hierarchal structure over what they have now, which is just all the application icons thrown into one folder. Sure, you can just type the name of the application you want to run into the box, but I definitely prefer to not use the keyboard when possible.
If we're measuring usability in terms of mouse clicks, why do keystrokes and the time it takes to position your fingers on the keyboard not seem to matter?
Vahan Harutyunyan(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 2 Feb 11 at 12:33
Solution #10:
Unity confirmed as the default desktop interface for Ubuntu 11.04
Vahan Harutyunyan(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 21 Sep 11 at 16:32
Ubuntu 11.10 comes with Unity by default and Unity 2D as the fall-back mode. So I think this idea no longer actual.
Closing in Brainstorm.