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Idea #20063: Integrate Google Wave into Ubuntu

Written by suneej the 30 May 09 at 15:31. Related project: XChat-GNOME IRC Chat. Status: New
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Google Wave is open-source and will be released later this year. If it could be integrated into Ubuntu then it could greatly improve the productivity and communication of networked Ubuntu users. For example more than one person can work on a GIMP or OpenOffice document simultaneously in real time etc...

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Solution #1: Integrate Google Wave into Ubuntu
Written by suneej the 30 May 09 at 15:31.
Google Wave is open-source and will be released later this year. If it could be integrated into Ubuntu then it could greatly improve the productivity and communication of networked Ubuntu users. For example more than one person can work on a GIMP or OpenOffice document simultaneously in real time etc...

It can be integrated into the Ubuntu desktop....because its open-source it can easily be modified
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Solution #2: Application Plugins to make use of Google Wave features
Written by aadityabhatia the 31 May 09 at 07:51.
The best way to accomplish this task is to write plug-ins for the existing applications, to integrate new features based on Google Wave into the existing applications like GIMP or OpenOffice.

Plug-ins are OPTIONAL for user and are easy to develop, since they can be written without modifying the actual application code.
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Solution #3: Use wave for the ubuntu community
Written by arand the 1 Jun 09 at 10:17.
Use wave to bring together all scattered pieces of the ubuntu community: Forums, mailing lists, launchpad, wiki, brainstorm, irc, etc., and hence create a common, transparent interface applicable to all things ubuntu. Old services will remain, extensions will congregate content into the wave interface.
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Solution #4: Integrate programs one-by-one into Google Wave via plugins
Written by kareeser the 3 Jun 09 at 01:56.
Quick example: Evolution.

Both are viable programs on their own, Evolution supports POP and IMAP, and is a general PIM which would benefit greatly from Google Wave as a sync backend. Evolution could even keep their layout, but interface with Google Wave like their own API does.

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Nickedynick wrote on the 30 May 09 at 22:34
I'm not sure how feasible it would be to use Wave to edit images to be honest.

Also, it's built as a web application so really it would be a matter of either having a link to it in Firefox, or using Prism to launch it in a similar manner.

That said, it does look like a fantastic product.

XVIIarcano wrote on the 31 May 09 at 07:51
Sorry but -1. I am all in favour of improving the communication but NOT EVEN GOOGLE really nows what google wave does AND as pointed by Nickednick, whatever will it be it will be perfectly tailored to be done in a browser so A) it is premature to talk about the integration of something we don't even know, B) it will be "integrated" by default, so the idea makes little sense anyway. (C) idon't think it will ever allow to gimp an image in real time over the air, let's be realistic, at best it could implement the edits from picasa).

rakudave wrote on the 31 May 09 at 08:19
It's google, remember? Who knows what happens to your data once google has had it's hands on it... no thanks!

stoffel wrote on the 31 May 09 at 08:52
rakudave: Google's Wave is an open specification written as an extension to XMPP. Hence, anyone can deploy a "Wave service": Canonical will be able to do it, Microsoft will be able to do it, YOU will be able to do it.

To summarize: XMPP is a technology like SMTP/email; everybody can deploy it; there is NO lock-in involved.

Related readings:
https://stpeter.im/index.php/2009/05/28/xmpp-catch-the-wave/
http://www.simplicidade.org/notes/archives/2009/05/xmpp_waves.html
http://www.process-one.net/en/imtrends/article/google_wave_another_steps_toward _xmpp_powering_the_real_time_web/

Akerbos wrote on the 31 May 09 at 12:44
What is the problem you want to solve here?

Shady3D wrote on the 31 May 09 at 13:14
hey people its really early to integrate such thing but the idea will be good for the future.

and for people who say they don't trust google its not a must to use the service offered by google, the project is open sourced so actually, Ubuntu can make its own network with its own storage. so there is no problem about the data safety.

and i think it will make Ubuntu better, and don't tell me start something like that from scratch!!

so whether people trust Google or not, Google wave will be a really huge wave in the future of communication and developers will expand the idea more and more !!!

vektor wrote on the 31 May 09 at 13:49
Akerbos> The issue here is:
Most probably, in a short time there will be a communication solution from Google, which will (presumably) used by many people including Ubuntu users. The community should make a statement about it and keep an eye on its developement.

At least, IMHO :-)

Apiman wrote on the 31 May 09 at 17:42
This is how I see it:
Wave will be the email replacement in a very short time.
Here are my reasons:
-It works under a unique open protocol (XMPP).
-You will be able to deploy it on your own servers if you don't trust Google.
-It has all Google support with all it's users.
-E-mail is just too old and needs a redesign. It's been a great tool but it's time to step forward.
-Wave can unify easily almost all your internet communications: mail, blogs, social networks.

This means that it's a great opportunity for Ubuntu and the open source community to be ahead everyone else when Wave gets released. This means that the most common applications on Ubuntu desktop should support Wave from the beginning: Evolution, Pidgin, Prism, etc. They all should have their plugins implemented by the end of the year. Google has gave us the chance to do it through an open system, why shouldn't we take benefit of this?

Because end of the year is just in the middle of two Ubuntu releases (9.10 and 10.04) I guess users will have to wait 10.04 to enjoy all the Wave experience. This is way too much. Windows and Mac users will have the chance to enjoy Wave from the beggining (at list Windows users I'm sure they will). I think 9.10 team should consider to be prepared to add Wave tools to Ubuntu by the time it's released.

Canonical could offer a wave account (on Canonical's servers) for Ubuntu users. That would be great too.
Let's support Wave from the beginning!

arand wrote on the 1 Jun 09 at 10:30
I've put down Sol. #3, which is what I feel wave is meant for (at least one major part of it's proposed purpose).

It is a rather major goal, but then again, wave is meant to revolutionize communication online anyhow.

Ubuntu could really use a "brining together" of all it's community efforts, since I think it is very hard for a user to get a good overview, and to know where to turn at the moment. Also, for the purpose of development I think a more solid connection between launchpad, irc, and mailing lists could benefit ubuntu as a whole.

Hopefully, it would be possible to create extensions for all the community services such that the old interface would remain the same, but it would be possible to fire up wave to access and interact with all theses services on a shared platform.

Akerbos wrote on the 1 Jun 09 at 12:40
Wether a all-in-one service created and hosted by one single company will be up to replace all the specialised solutions that exist (mail, im, blog...) will be seen.

kazagistar wrote on the 2 Jun 09 at 19:08
1) It is NOT hosted by google. Make sure you understand this. Anyone can use it, and it works via a federated protocol similar to email, where only the servers of the people in the conversation ever see that a conversation exists. Google understands that big companies cannot have their data on another company's server, so they are designing it so anyone can use it.

2) It definitely has the capabilities to support image or audio or video editing... the protocol is simple and extensible, based vaguely around CMS, using diff-sending to maintain synchronization. However overly-complex it looks, it is basically a unix-ey tool; it does data synchronization very well, and lets developers combine existing tools into that to form great things.

3) On that note, I heard from a company boss at a large support firm that they are going to start integrating wave into their own business, because it looks like it has a good chance at becoming a standard business tool. Guys, this is a opportunity... Google is basically trying to usurp Microsoft Office and Exchange's stranglehold in many corporations with a open protocol. If Ubuntu can get there first, it can have a competitive edge in a new environment.

nloewen wrote on the 18 Jun 09 at 18:42
"why shouldn't we take benefit of this? Because end of the year is just in the middle of two Ubuntu releases"

Backport it then. This is already an amazing tool and it hasn't been released yet. This is IM, email, blogs, online photo albums, online gaming, if you want to share it you can do it. We should be all over this to get it integrated as soon as possible. HUGE advantage.

As many +'s as i'm aloud. (still only 1).

loveandequalityforall wrote on the 21 Jun 09 at 15:59
Neat idea.

kragil wrote on the 17 Jul 09 at 12:37
Oh, it would be soo awful if Google would know all the _open_ communication the Ubuntu community does. People would find it more easily and it would be easier and faster to use.

That would be truely horific! ;)



At the moment you need to know how email, forums, mailing lists, IRC, wikis, comments, launchpad etc works.

I would be possible to integrate all those into a wave frontend + you would lots of benefits because it is just so much more modern, realtime and editable.

sinema izle wrote on the 27 Dec 09 at 10:19
great moment for...


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