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lifesf
wrote on the 25 May 09 at 03:11
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Brilliant!!! As simple as possible!!!!
Making everything cleaner!
More organized!
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nand
(Brainstorm admin)
wrote on the 25 May 09 at 13:53
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Very good idea.
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bryonak
wrote on the 25 May 09 at 16:38
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It's a good idea to unclutter the menu, but the main "problem" I see is that it lengthens the way to change a setting for experienced users... remember, new users are "newbies" for a few months, then they are (more or less) experienced users for years.
So we should try to improve for the new users while maintaining the usability for the seasoned ones.
Not that I'd mind this change at all. I greatly prefer the direct menu entries to the control panel anyway, because the latter lacks the system-wide(admin)/user(no password required) separation which I find very intuitive (though new users probably less so). And it needs less clicks.
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Esshahn
wrote on the 25 May 09 at 20:43
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+1 Overall very good cleanup, much like the OSX system preferences. Ubuntu could really use the polish. Thanks for your work.
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Shady3D
wrote on the 26 May 09 at 06:00
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Amazing
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Akerbos
wrote on the 26 May 09 at 07:44
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I do not understand semantics of the arrows.
A narrower menu structure would be nice, though.
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Awesome, simply awesome!
This should really be implemented!
Nice mockup too!
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Nice work! Much more organized! I really like it.
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samoul
wrote on the 27 May 09 at 11:59
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A strongly agree with the issue. Solution #1 is a good starting point, but it may be too much. I would recommend keeping both Preference and Administration menus. There is some obvious duplicates in thoses menus and it would greatly improve the usability of Ubuntu to merge them into one intuitive window.
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gazilla
wrote on the 27 May 09 at 13:50
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Fantastic work. I'm off to create 10 or 20 new Brainstorm logins so I can vote this up more. (KIDDING!!)
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I like it.
Very simple and good idea
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'Authorisations' should belong to 'Users and Groups' because it handles PolicyKit permissions for users (I think).
'Screensaver' would fit better together with 'Power management'.
'Print' should be called 'Printing'. 'Startup & Login windows' could be called 'Startup & Login'.
The 'Bluetooth' and 'Preferred Applications' items shouldn't be moved, because they're settings windows and not tools.
I have absolutely no idea what 'SCIM' is but it also looks like a settings window...
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Very well thought out suggestion and something that is much needed!
I agree with some of the comments that there might be a slightly better way to reduce or group the options, but I think Option 1 as is would still be a nice improvement.
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nlao
wrote on the 28 May 09 at 13:06
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I like the idea of simplification. But is the initial screen and revised scheme akin to the "Windows Control Panel"? I have never seen something like this in Ubuntu.
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urandom
wrote on the 28 May 09 at 21:13
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I'm not exactly sure how Idea #1 can actually simplify things. It basically moves the number of choices from a higher level to a lower one. The total number of choices doesn't seem to change at all.
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sobik2
wrote on the 29 May 09 at 13:22
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+ 1 , great and very useful idea :)
in my opinion that could not be so hard to implement into ubuntu :)
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nloewen
wrote on the 29 May 09 at 21:39
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Yes!! finally a good idea about how to solve the problems of cluttered menu's! I can't wait until this gets put in. (hopefully it does)
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lavinog
wrote on the 30 May 09 at 15:14
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@nlao, the initial screen is the control center, a hidden menu, that can be enabled by going to edit menus>system, check control center.
Solution 1 is very nicely done. Originally I was thinking that there would be an issue with combining system settings with personal, but now that I think of it, I don't see why not.
so +1
This looks like a huge change to implement though.
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What awesome blueprints!!! Good job!
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1337hippo
(Idea reviewer)
wrote on the 31 May 09 at 21:25
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I don't agree with some of the consolidations you propose but it's a great idea nonetheless. +1 for a simpler UI!
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ziroday
(Brainstorm moderator)
wrote on the 1 Jun 09 at 12:51
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Pretty pictures always win me over +1
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I really like were this is going, but I would like to add a few things. For one. We really need to get a simple control panel of new users instead of just throughing all this into a menu, like we currently do. In this control panel we can have the simplified menu, but also a sidebar that has detail descriptions of what each does.
We should also keep the menu style around for those people who know what there doing. Give the user both options.
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Nazo
wrote on the 2 Jun 09 at 11:01
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I like this idea but disagree some points
here is my early idea.
* People and Personal
** Personal (includes my private/public key, network service accounts and any private informations like keyring passwords)
** Friends (Address book, Publickeys, etc)
* Interface and Accessibility
** UI settings (includes locale setting and screen saver)
** Software settings (includes startup applications and preference applications)
** Hardware/Device settings
** System UI settings (includes login window and beep sound management)
* Network and Services
** Network settings
** Protocol settings (includes http proxy, socks proxy, etc)
** Remote Desktop
** File sharing
** Network printer
** Service management
* System (for sudoer)
** Account management
** Update management
** Software management (includes packaging management and installed locale management)
** Test (Hardware testing/Software testing/Network testing)
** System monitor (includes datetime setting, device manager, log viwer and software authorization viewer)
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Denis
wrote on the 2 Jun 09 at 19:18
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I really think this issue should be worked on. Preferences and administration are a mess at the moment. Grouping various items can make it much easier to find the right settings.
I like most of the examples in solution 1. We should think carefully about the categories.
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I also have always wanted it to change something like this! (Solution 1)
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I also have always wanted it to change something like this! (Solution 1)
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I also have always wanted it to change something like this! (Solution 1)
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I especially like some of the items being moved to the "System Tools" folder in applications. I have a small four items in mine, and I have always wished it housed more system-related programs :). I don't agree with BlueTooth being in that folder, though. I think it should be in the Accessories folder.
My favorite part about idea #1, though, is the consolidation! The mockup is extremely accurate to what I think a user would like, and to what would be the most efficient.
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At this moment the "2 way" division "Preferences/Administration" in Ubuntu always make me pick the wrong menu! I almost go crazy of the categorizing... of all menu's, including the app menu. I found it more easy to do a lot with the shell...
But this "idea" is a huge step forward!
Off course, some things can be re-arranged on a different location, just read through the comments... but than again, this is the way to go. It indeed looks very alike "system preferences" from osx Leopard.
Don't forget that osx also has a strange "utilities folder" in the "application folder", I think its better, to incorporate it all in one place... So just don't forget the utilities folder in osx, thats the proof that apple also didn't know where to put some important stuff!
If I may suggest there may not be more than 3 or 4 maybe 5 levels of categories... so not more than maybe 12 - 18 icons
And its also important that almost everything needs to be at that control panel! Or a sub group.
When playing around with Windows Vista for the first time 2 years ago, I was shocked by the control-panel menu! More icons, different icons, different names and different positions. For years I was an XP user... now a OSX user, and also a linux user! Less is more!
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The best solution is Solution #5: Use Fedora-style preferences menu. It clearly works, why reinvent the wheel. Also it may help attract Fedora users to Ubuntu.
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Ijan
wrote on the 7 Jun 09 at 11:54
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Brilliant mockups nq6! As a user with a little experience I'd indeed love faster and more efficent navigation through the system preferences.
However this might not be the case for users with little conceptual knowledge and new to gnome, as they won't be able to pick the right category for the task they want to perform.
The idea of presenting the subitems in windows instead of submenus might be an additional showstopper for newbies, as every trial-error runthrough will be likely to produce a lot of "close some windows" -> "reopen menu" -> "pick some other item" cycles.
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I agree with solution 1. This would make the Ubuntu Preferences System way easier to use for beginners, and more organized.
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safright
wrote on the 15 Jun 09 at 18:26
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I think it's windouz-like (
Too many some-thing&other-some-thing
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76house
wrote on the 16 Jun 09 at 08:53
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Great, many thanks!
All the time I have been using Ubuntu I have also been looking for such a simple & efficient configuration.
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jward
wrote on the 16 Jun 09 at 14:30
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Ijan, you make a good point on what you're saying.
Does anyone know the programme that created those diagrams?
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