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    <title><![CDATA[Brainstorm does not work in IE, and has no warning]]></title>
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    <description><![CDATA[Brainstorm does not work properly in IE (the solutions/problems are not displayed). In addition, there is no warning that it does not work in IE. <br />
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<b>[11 votes] Solution #3: Borrow IE dev maneuver and alert users to preferred browsers</b>
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<b>[5 votes] Solution #4: Fix It!</b>
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    <pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 15:00:08 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from wit3k</title>
  <description><![CDATA[IE? Who cares about that old, forgotten by world, browser?]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 08:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from fizyk</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I support Andrew's idea. For one, you could happen to have access only to MS based pc, with mas based browser only. Second thing, if people would search for ubuntu through network they could happen to find that site as well.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 14:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from alms66</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Solution 1 - I don't see any reason to support anything before IE7.  I used IE7 and IE8 on this site and it works fine.<br /><br />Solution 2 - I'm typing this from work, where I'm not allowed to install software on my computer so I have to use IE, therefore, Firefox is not always the solution.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 16:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from McIvor</title>
  <description><![CDATA[The 2nd most common criticism I hear of the Linux community is that we are 'too arrogant'. Ubuntu is 'Linux for Human Beings'. When something doesn't work, we can't just say 'Use something else' - we should do everything we can to fix it. Obviously, we can't fix IE - it will always be broken. However, we can provide a warning to users - more than Microsoft does, anyway (it sometimes seems they think if you are not using their software, you don't deserve to be on a computer).]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 23:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from grofaty</title>
  <description><![CDATA[This should be reported as bug in Launchpad and not as idea in brainstorm.<br /><br />I also had the same problem few weeks ago. I used Ubuntu notebook that was not part of the internet network, but I had some old Windows computer that was using IE6 and when I got some idea on ubuntu I tried to share it with Windows IE6 browser and got a surprise - non-working brainstorm in IE6.<br /><br />It was not a big problem at all, I just connected to internet with computer using IE7 and report an idea.<br /><br />Probably #1 is not a bad idea. Just check the browser version and display something like "Please use newer version of Internet Explorer" or "Your browser is too old to correctly display this web page" or something like that.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from grofaty</title>
  <description><![CDATA[By the way, please stop anti M$ war. Brainstorm is not the place for making bad will, it is intend to make good will and to have ideas how to improve Ubuntu related topics.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 17:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from jamesisin</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Well, in all reality it may well be that IE is the problem.  If their non-standards-compliant browser is not able to properly render a standards-compliant page, then the impetus is on their development staff to make their browser compliant.  Oh, wait.  IE 8 is finally compliant and it does work with the page in question.  Hmmm... sounds like solution 4 (Fix It) has finally been addressed by the folks who had the power to do so.<br /><br />And in defence of my controversial statement ("Take that, IE elitist developers...") and as a long time (ten year) Opera user, it's about time someone turned the tables on developers who write pages for a broken browser (IE) and then advise users not using that specific broken browser (IE) that they would be better off using a broken browser (IE).  The difference in this stance which I propose would be that we would be promoting two browsers which are not broken and which are very much standards-compliant.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from saivann</title>
  <description><![CDATA[Please avoid personal attacks, a few comments were removed.<br /><br />This idea have the right to exist, if you disagree, please vote down. If you want to let a constructive comment (positive or not), please post it. But saying to other people that they are idiot is a good exemple of what is not tolerated. Thanks.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Mon, 04 May 2009 20:12:13 +0000</pubDate>
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  <title>Comment from cubytus</title>
  <description><![CDATA[I agree there's absolutely no point in making dirty hacks to make any perfectly standards-compliant website work with any non standard browser, and that includes IE.<br /><br />If you can't install anything on your work Win-based machine, what are you doing on Ubuntu's website instead of working, in the first place?<br /><br />Second, the best solution would be putting a browser detection script when entering Ubuntu Brainstorm, which would basically say something like:<br />"This website won't display correctly in the browser you're using (Name browser here) because it's not standards compliant.<br /><br />For best results, download an updated version of browser (name browser here) from website (link to the exact page here).<br /><br />Click here to continue without updating"<br /><br />Hotmail puts out such a page when one tries to access their page with a browser that's not officially supported. But the good point is, it's slightly annoying, but one can easily make one more click to go past this warning page.]]></description>
  <pubDate>Sat, 09 May 2009 18:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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